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    2 minutes ago, flynismo said:

    Ryan played superb today. It's a lot easier to play so well when you have guys like Julio, Freeman, Sanu and Coleman to work with.

    Sanu, Really? He hasn't even had 800 yards in a season yet. freeman had 35 yards rushing and Coleman didn't even play. Lmao Watch Matt Ryan he doesn't have the strongest arm, but he hits a lot of people in stride. Really a great QB with a good receiver in Julio Jones. and that's pretty much it.

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    1 minute ago, flynismo said:

    Why did I bring up what you call "team achievement" again? Oh that's right....because that is the standard that EVERYONE uses to evaluate QBs. The sooner you grasp that, the sooner you'll understand the whole point of this discussion. Please tell me why it matters for every other QB, but not when it comes to Flacco.

    Because football is a team sport. But with the Ravens its very lopsided with the Defense carrying the offense. Do you realize how many times this defense has carried flacco to the playoffs? I'm a Ravens fan and I see it every year. Yet you want to use it as an argument to defend Flacco. It makes no sense.

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    Just now, flynismo said:

    Okay, cool. Assuming Flacco continues his success and wins another SB, we'll see what matters more, Ryan's higher TD total or Flacco's rings.

    Again you bring up a team achievement to defend Flacco. That's my point with everyone that doesn't look at him for what he is. Trent Dilfer has a super bowl Ring is he anywhere in the same league as Dan Marino?

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    1 minute ago, flynismo said:

    Oh yeah, I mentioned how if Aikman, Griese and Namath can get in the HOF, then Flacco has a good shot at it too. You should have seen how ruffled the anti-Flacco trolls feathers got after that one haha...

    Again different era, you even bring up namath from the 60's to prove your point. The problem with that Joe isn't gonna get compared to Namath he is gonna to be compared with current players like Matt Ryan who has 50 more TD's than him even though they entered the draft the same year. You bring players out of the past who's stats won't look good in today's era to prove your point. Rookie QB's now have better stats than Hall of Famers in the past. Should all of them be HOF's? No, its just the NFL is different than it was in the past. The only thing is Joe has stats comparable to players in the past in this new NFL.

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    1 minute ago, flynismo said:

    Who cares about stats? Fantasy geeks, fans who vote on the pro bowl, and....nobody else. 

    Team accomplishments? Tell me...why is Montana considered by most the GOAT? Certainly not because of stats. But because of his postseason success and SB wins. Same with Brady. So this is where I see right through YOUR argument, because you want to deny some of Flacco's achievements that everyone applies to every single other QB to ever play the game....but for some reason with you anti-Flacco guys, it doesn't count for him? Okay.

    "Who cares about stats?" Stats and game tape are usually a direct indication of what you will be paid in this league. It is used as bargaining chips in player contracts. You bring up Joe Montana he is the only QB who has 5 super bowls. He is an exception, We will be lucky if Joe can get us another one. Its also a different era than today's game. Montana stats would probably much better in today's passing league. Brady on the other hand goes back and forth with Manning breaking passing TD records so that argument is invalid.

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    13 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

     

    in flaccos BEST season ever QBR PFF etc ( 2010) he was the number 9 QB in the league. In 2014 he was 10th.

    Outside of those two years...he's been between 15-29

     

    and yet hes been extended..

     

    what a dumb FO. They must have 0 confidence in themselves to be emotionally tied to this guy.

     

    I would take that 2014 year away from because who doesn't do good in a Kubiak run offense? Rookies run that offense to perfection lol

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    3 hours ago, flynismo said:

    I know what you're saying. And you're dead wrong when you look at his body of work. We just had this discussion in another thread. The only people who have accomplished more during their careers are HOF QBs who have been playing longer than Flacco. That isn't opinion, it is fact.

    So that is why all those "get rid of Flacco" or "he's average" people are not taken seriously. It's one thing to criticize, we all do that, and should do that. But those people take it to a surreal level of....not-smartness.

    I think people need to remember we're all supplorting the same team. Nobody, not Flacco, not Harbaugh nobody is above the team. At the same time, those two guys were the primary reasons we have been so good for so long. They have more than earned the benefit of doubt.

    Statistically speaking his regular season stats are pretty average compared to what hes getting paid. A lot of Joe Flacco accomplishment are team accomplishments, not individual accomplishments. How can Joe Flacco be even thought of being a hall of famer, when he hasn't even been to one pro bowl? it doesn't add up. This is where i can see right through your argument, I am a fan of the Ravens and Joe Flacco but you if you look at the issues with the Ravens especially this year its Flacco and this offense. I am not one of this people shouting for Harbaugh to get fired, I'm talking directly about Flacco and his play and how he has regressed.

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    49 minutes ago, flynismo said:

    This is precisely why nobody takes the anti-Flacco guys seriously.

    So anyone who analyzes Flacco is anti-Flacco? If I'm anti-Flacco you must be A Flacco defense team member. I'm basically saying if you look at his body of work I can find you over a dozen players who are better than him. who he gets paid more than. Why is it that he never gets to the pro bowl? Even when the starters selected don't go to the pro bowl. Why is it he is never even thought of for mvp consideration? Why is it that Joe hasn't even thrown over 4000 yards or more than 30 TDS in 9 seasons? And you want me to be the Anti Flacco guy? I'm giving you facts and your telling me I'm a hater.

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    I have been known to critic Flacco throughout his career and I believe its well deserved. If you actually look at his body of work. He is actually an average to below average QB. Take away that playoff run for the Super bowl and look what he has done. I want to blame the receivers, but when they do get open for a big play or something he under throws them. It all comes back to him. If you look at the big plays to Steve Smith since he has been here, its more of Steve Smith making a play happen then Joe making a great pass. He is into his 30's now and I can't really ask him to improve that much. At this point he is who he is. In a league where rookie QB's are coming in now and throwing for 4,000 yards, Joe hasn't hit that mark once in his career. I'm not trying to bash the guy, but I have always seen what people are angry about now.

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    I want Flacco to take accountability for his play. How does Phillip Rivers still produce with a bad oline? I can't even name one receiver with the Chargers right now, and hes less mobile than Flacco. Yet he still produces at a high level. Yes I know the O-line is bad and they have to be blamed as well. But I watch Flacco closely and he still has the same issues he did as a younger player. Doesn't step up in the pocket, Awareness of pass rush is not good, Joe has a strong arm but hes inaccurate. I harp on Flacco a lot because he is the highest played player on this team, and he doesn't produce like he should. Think of how many offensive coordinators the organization has had since Flacco has been QB. Only one coordinator worked well with Flacco and that was Kubiak. Kubiak stresses the run more than the pass. Kubiak offense pretty much works with every QB, even younger ones because there is less pressure on the QB. Defense is still good in my opinion. I know they are not the best, but they are highly ranked. We have no offense, that's an on going theme with the Ravens.

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    6 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

    Nah man, but of all the flavors you could choose, you chose salty and you sound salty and upset at the moderators here. I won't get into my personal opinions here, but you just sound bitter. I like Flacco FWIW, and I know you don't and I don't think you ever did. That said, I'll definitely say those criticizing Flacco have all the right to do so right now because he is just not playing winning football and isn't getting it done. I actually agree that even with the OL and these WR Flacco is still apart of the problem because you see Rivers with a crappy OL and 'eh' receivers yet he still gets it done. That said, Rivers and the Chargers are also 3-4, so hey, the Chargers aren't doing that much better. 

    The main reason we are 3-4 is because of our defense which is 4th ranked overall. Chargers defense overall is 21st big difference. Rivers even though he is immobile he is better than Flacco on so many levels. Rivers is literally a stiff in the pocket and still gets the job done.

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    3 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

    we had a creampuff schedule and the D got to pad its stats. I said at the time we'd see what happened as the offenses we faced improved even an iota. This is what happens.

    jaguars, redskins, raiders, giants. I don't consider them creampuff offenses. If that's the case why can't our offense ever take the chance to pad stats against those same bad defenses?

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