MOM-GENE,,, hey you sound angry, I got dinged for so many question marks and exclamation marks, this is just a discussion . you make a point and get a response. lets be civil. now with that said, I am all in for my RAVENS,, always have been and always will be. what a lot of people here do is create excuses, we can not accept mediocrity or we end up like the --------- (not to be mean), will not name team names. But its fans like you and me that will continue to see things different. its ok,, we are fans , I love my city (west side pimlico rd) my state and my team.. How many points did we average on offense at our best this year what around 28 points, defense gave up 34 and plus 30 last week, you have never heard me being critical of our offense, heck , I like claussen over schaub, I may be a part of the few that likes our OC,he has done alot with little what can he do with alot, hhmmmmm,, I am extremely hard on HARB and our DC,, our defense should not have fallen that far off with Suggs out the line up, very poor schemes, Harb has always made bone headed mistakes, that fake punt was insane. anyway wrote way too much,, we are making points not making angry gestures because we disagree.