52liveforever

So what we do with him stresses me out. I feel like he could be a great tight end but coming in at the bottom of the depth chart like he is plus the suspension I just don't know if he will get a fair shot.

Really hope it scared him more than hurt him 

13 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

Because I see this mentioned a lot, do people not realize that the DC doesn't tell corners how far or close to line up?  

they line up where they have been coached to line up for that particular defensive scheme. Which falls to the DC. If that is not true and its just something that didn't get corrected than that still reflects on the DC.

Just watched the first few defensive drives. Shareece Wright is not looking like an NFL starter. I really hope he picks it up. Wright and Powers looked very suspect not to mention that we are still lining up 10 yards away from the receiver shows Pees learned nothing from last year. Our guys just aren't showing the instincts to play that far off.

3 hours ago, Edgar said:

It's way too early to worry about Correa but I would agree that his performance in two pre-season games fails to measure up to the hype of training camp.

He is a high pick who really hasn't jumped off the film to this point.  He really has no answer when an offensive lineman gets hands on him first. 

 

He actually had a really good game yesterday if you really watched him. He got held a lot. Mentioning holding Zadarius smith got held a lot too. In general there was a lot of holding in that game on both sides. I will say the only time I saw good things from him was on the outside so I would say Orr has that inside spot.

53 minutes ago, Inqui said:

I was being a little sarcastic about the Antonio Brown comparison, but I agree. His football intelligence was great to see, even stuff like diving on the dropped pass in case it was ruled a fumble as the announcer pointed out. It was a small thing, but as you say it's great to see a WR paying attention to stuff like that. It's nice to think we may have finally taken a late-round WR who amounts to more than washing out of the league after two years on the phantom IR.

Well yeah I wouldn't go as far as saying he's going to be as good as Antonio brown. I will say I think he is showing he might be better than any receiver we have drafted. His routes are on point and gets good separation and has the smarts. His hands to me are all that need to be completely validated to me. I honestly completely dismissed picking him in the draft, but he's got me excited.

2 hours ago, Inqui said:

Late-round rookie Antonio Brown in his second preseason game: 2 receptions for 12 yards.

Late-round rookie Chris Moore in his second preseason game: 3 receptions for 20 yards.

Watch out AFCN.

Forreal. He was awesome. His routes were great and had the discipline to get out of bounds rather than go for the yards. I really think he could be a big deal. 

3 minutes ago, Orange_Peanut said:

Chris Moore looked VERY GOOD. I wonder if he can return.

Can't see him returning, but I agree he looks like something special. Very good routes.

I came here to say I really like Chris Moore 

Crocket just hurt his spot on the depth chart

Brooks. B.c he can lay wood.

1 hour ago, Filmstudy said:

Levine probably won't get a ton better, but he's being cast into a FAR more important role as the dime.  Because he'll be on the field for the highest leverage downs, his impact on the team can be much greater than it ever has been.  

And the guys who excel at the dime have always been journeymen.  You never have Eric Berry or Ed Reed as your dime.

I dunno about always. I think it depends more on the safety. Polamalu played a lot of dime. 

17 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Levine is arguably our best ST player. It's prob between him, Waller and McLellan... And with McLellan stepping into a bigger defensive role he may not be used as much on ST and Wallers suspended and will have a tough time making the team when he comes back. 

Cant see cutting our ST leader. 

He did play well the season we needed him at corner. Nothing special but he was solid considering he was thrust into a prominent role having never played the position and having only a couple weeks to prepare. 

And he made one of the best plays of the game against Carolina. He's gotta finish and catch the ball, but he got to the perfect depth of his drop, stayed patient reading to QB to bait the throw and then broke perfectly to break up the pass. Should've been an INT but for a guy who's been playing the position for maybe a month or two, that showed savvy, great technique and understanding of his role in the scheme. 

His versatility alone is a great value as he only takes up one roster spot but gives depth at S, CB, and LB. in a season where were pressed for roster spots at nearly every position and have no less than 10 guys that should make this team vying for maybe 3-4 spots... A guy like him is super valuable in that he lets us maybe take one less at corner, safety or LB if we feel a TE, RB, OL, WR should make it over a depth guy at one of Levines positions. 

No he's not a world beater but he's solid at everything he does. And when on the field is a great piece bc he can move around to confuse the offense from LB, drop to a deep safety then come back down in the box and slide out to cover the slot so the nickel can blitz. I mean there's just so much you can do with a guy like that. 

I think Levines a lock for the roster. I think he's the 4th LB behind Mosley, Orr and Correa and may be as high as the 3rd safety. 

I prefer Levine and Brooks right now over Leeis and Elam. Though that could change. But I see Levine as the safest of that group. 

I agree he is pretty much a lock. Still though he's not ever going to be anymore than he is now. He's a solid depth guy and good special teams guy who will play wherever you want him, but he's never going to be any better than he is now. If it comes down to him, Elam, and Brooks I would go with Elam and Brooks hoping they meet their potential. Obviously that's not the smart move and it's more of a gamble and exactly why I am not a general manager. 

3 hours ago, jazz1988 said:

From all the training camp reports/notes I've saw it never mentioned Kendrick Lewis  being used as linebacker like Elam and Levine. Not everything that goes on in training camp is reported so I don't know for sure if it's completely true  but for the most part when it comes to using safeties at inside linebacker it has only been Elam and Levine being named. The guy just last year was The Ravens starting free/strong safety so I  thought it would be more news on how the coaches was trying to get him on the field. I don't know how well Lewis can play on special teams but I do know just about every backup safety on The Ravens team during Harbaugh era were capable special teamers..

 

If Elam, Brooks,and Levine continue to impress/play well then where does that leave Lewis? All three of those guys give the secondary more versatility  than Lewis . Levine him self can play linebacker, nickel corner, both safety position and outside corner. Lewis last year had to move to strong safety because he wasn't capable of handling the free safety position and then The Ravens went on to sign Eric Weddle.One of The reason why I mentioned The Houston Texans is because they need safety help and their defensive coordinator has always liked Lewis.

Not disagreeing one bit really.

So id first like to say I've never gotten the hype on Levine. I think he's a hard working and a company man who will do whatever the company needs or wants him to do so I really love that about him. As far as play goes I've never seen much in him. At least in Brooks we have seen flashes imo super bright flashes. Brooks just hasn't been consistent. Elam has shown flickers and him being a first round pick you really hope it comes together eventually. Honestly I'd cut Lewis. I don't see him being valued enough by other teams to trade him.

27 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

I think Kendrick Lewis may get traded especially to The Houston Texans. Unless The Ravens are seriously concern with Webb health I don't know how he fits. I don't know if he's a good special teamer, I'm not sure if he's versatile enough to play linebacker like Elam and Levine because I never saw any reports that he was used in such a way, and  for a guy that's always been a starter for most  of  his career it may be best to give him opportunity to play else where.

If you don't know so much how do you come up with such conclusions? Not trying to be mean, but really.

I'm two picks off from his picks. I had Hurst instead of Wesley and Elam instead of Levine.

2 hours ago, ravefan52 said:

I really think Levine makes it.

So I actually almost put him on there. If he made it in the place of Lewis, Brooks, or Elam I can't say id be surprised or upset. Honestly to me the safety battle for roster spots is the most underrated battles of camp.

QB- Joe, Mallet -2

RB- Forsett, Buck, West, Dixon -6

FB- Juice -7

TE- Watson, Gilmore, Maxx, Pitta -11

WR- SSS, Wallace, Aiken, Perriman, Moore, Camp -17

OL- Stanley, Urschel, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Jensen, Lewis, Hurst -25

DL- Jernigan, Williams, Guy, Davis, Henry, Urban -31

OLB- Suggs, Dumervil, Smith, Judon, McClellan -36

ILB- Mosely, Correa, Orr-39

CB- Jimmy, Wright, Powers, Young, Davis,  Canaday- 45

FS- Webb, Lewis -47

SS- Weddle, Elam, Brooks -50

SP- Koch, Tucker, Cox -53

With McClellan I feel we are safe just carrying the 3 inside guys there.

15 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

Can't do anything now... so basically it's either he signs between now and Week 10 of the regular season or he re-enters the Draft next year.

What time was the deadline? know it was today.

I say see if the Chargers will take a 2nd rounder.

Pending they all make it through preseason with no injuries I'd say Ozzie will definitely be listening to calls.

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

this is another one, we have a 3 man front that COULD be so good that we dont even need much edge rush, but then again theyre all unprovens so they could also be a total dud across the board. but say we field a 3-4 pass rush package, davis could be an ideal rushing NT being powerful enough to man up on the interior but slim enough to shoot gaps, henry and jernigan are similarly explosive and powerful interior rushers, and urban has quick feet and great length, it could be really solid, best potential we've had there in a while, but it needs to be legit.

Yeah man, this group has me on the edge of my seat. It feels like it could be among the best 3 man fronts I've ever seen, but as they say the proof is in the pudding, but the pudding hasn't been put out yet so we shall see

As far as the best 3 man fronts I can remember are Trevor pryce kelly Gregg and haloti ngata when pryce first got here. Also Kiesel, Casey Hampton and Aaron smith was another really good one. I think Brandon Williams is a better nose than Hampton or Gregg so it comes down to Jernigan and whoever claims that other spot. I'm hoping its urban and he can stay healthy 

I will be looking at Brent Urban, Carl Davis and Willie Henry. I want to see them make some plays because I feel like they can all step up and start if needed, but I'd like to see some early proof of that.

4 hours ago, cbrook1862 said:

shake ur head, call me a bad fan all u want, im one of the most loyal and proud ravens fan on this planet, and I go to any length to defend the team and players, but until Perriman actually does something other than be injured, sorry, but to me he's a wasted roster spot. When I see him do something, i'll go back to rooting for him but until then i don't really care about him anymore

You're a bad fan. smh

1 hour ago, jazz1988 said:

He's 31  but considering how much he has been  used in the league, his age isn't really much of concern. I don't really doubt Forsett being a productive running back but he still has a edge over the other backs especially with his pass blocking skills .Since Marc Trestman likes to be pass happy at times then having a guy like Forsett to pass block comes with good benefits. 

I don't think anyone will beat Forsett out of a job except Forsett. That's kind of how it happens with our coaching staff unless it is outright stated that there will be a competition. They haven't named the #1 spot a competition therefor its his job to lose more than it is Dixon or Bucks to earn.