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      1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:



    Torrey Smith: averaged 70 yards/game in 2013, career highs in receptions, yards, YPG, yards/catch, etc. Had 4 TDs

    The next year, Ravens career lows in receptions, yardage, YPG, yards/catch... has 11 TDs, almost three times as many. Why is that?

    Again, if you guys step away from the box scores, you'll get this.

    he was being interfered when trying try to catch the ball.

    lead the league  by a pretty large margin.
    was avg like 21.7 yards per penalty.

    had like 12 penalties for about 261 yards.

    also in 2014 he had 49 receptions which is the same as in 2012 when he also had 49 reception.
    quite curious how this is a career low in your eyes lol.
    he actually did that with less targets .....

     

    Yeah like I said below all his PI's added up and made a big difference.

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      1 hour ago, robbie29 said:
      1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:
      2 hours ago, robbie29 said:
      3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:
      4 hours ago, whobilly said:

    If we can sign "Q" for around the same price the Lions did last season he would likely contribute "Only" 60 catches, move the chains, and provide a tough winning attitude.

    Sounds like a weaker version of Dennis Pitta, who we just asked to take a paycut.

    I rest my case.

    Sorry, but Boldin is NOT a weaker version of Dennis Pitta. How do you even back that statement up? Boldin has missed just 2 games in the last 4 years, and hauled in 8 TD passes last season. Even at 36 years old, I'd rather have him on the field than Pitta.

    1. I don't care about TD catches, because they are too inconsistent for just about every WR. He caught 8 last year and 7 the two years prior.

    2. A lesser version to the extent of receptions, which is what the original commenter said we should sign him for.

    If the basis for signing him is so that he will simply catch passes, then he's a lesser version of Pitta to that extent.

    3. I don't want Boldin because I want to get younger and better at that position (and frankly most positions). I don't think anybody is looking at this team or roster thinking that we are in a position to make some sort of SB run next season.

    Signing him would be some sort of fan-favorite nostalgia move I guess, but I fail to see how the Baltimore Ravens are a better football team long term by signing him.

    "I don't care about TD catches"

    Seriously?

    Not for individual players I don't.

    I mean you can pick just about any WR you want. Radical swings in TD catches on a year over year basis.

    Everytime I hear somebody say "so and so caught X # of TDs last season, so he's good for that again", they're wrong almost every single time.

    Pick the greatest WRs you've ever seen. All have radical shifts in TD catches over a short period of time.

    Heck, here's just Ravens examples:

    Boldin: first year here he catches 7 TDs. The very next year... he averages 10 yards/game more, has more yardage, increases his Yards/Catch by 2.5 yards... all in 2 less games. His TDs dropped from 7 to 3.

    Literally every possibly metric says he was a better, more efficient, more productive WR for this team in 2011 than in 2010, yet his TD numbers were less than half. Why is that?

    Torrey Smith: averaged 70 yards/game in 2013, career highs in receptions, yards, YPG, yards/catch, etc. Had 4 TDs

    The next year, Ravens career lows in receptions, yardage, YPG, yards/catch... has 11 TDs, almost three times as many. Why is that?

    Again, if you guys step away from the box scores, you'll get this.

    This is separate from your argument, just a statement. For Torrey 2014 IMO was a much better season than his receptions, yardage and YPG show, He was a PI magnet that year and didn't even have to catch the ball half the time to get us 25-50 yards. I felt like every game he was getting PI's on bombs.

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    6 minutes ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

    Don't agree, you make it seem like there cannot be players, of similar level in competing positions, that are absolutely more important to add to a given roster. for that matter the Claibourne signing, if it happens, absolutely would have an effect on "priority". What it would not change is the choice of players who will be available for the Ravens at #16.

    Why do teams trade positions if they didn't want to improve an immediate need? (of course as Romo shows still can bite you I=A)
    Most teams don't trade up for the #1 QB or RB, why because they have solid filled positions. Not because he is the most talented player in the Draft, its a position decision.
    It happens all the time.
    So the 2 go hand in hand, one plus the other makes the best choice for the team. It s the most logical and the most historically.

    Also you say on "our board" so " position need" plays into that decision.

    Now sure one can argue which position is of the larger need, this seems to be the stronger of the argument that the post is referring to.

    All being said, no one expects the Ravens or any team to take a 2nd round prospect over a 1st round prospect just because of position. Not that it probably hasn't happened, I would say is a rarity

    When it comes to the draft the ravens will always go with the guy highest on their board.  Which is the BPA.  If they think they can trade back and still get that player then that is when they will make a trade. Whoever that guy is they are going to go with regardless of what position which is what he is saying.  The board is already set up so it doesn't matter what position the player is if he is the BPA then he is getting selected.  I don't think he is arguing with how the board is put together he is simply saying come draft time it doesn't matter because that whole hypothetical situation of these players are close, but this position is more of a priority. 

     

    For example say this is our board and we are on the clock: (think of this list as how we are viewing actual players in the draft and not like they are the actual players)

    1. Ed Reed 2. Todd Heap 3. Ben Grubbs 4. Anquan Boldin

    Now we need a Guard since Alex Lewis might be kicking out to tackle and this Ben Grubbs type of guard would be a great addition. We also need a receiver and this Boldin type of player would really benefit Joe.   We don't really need a free safety, but we aren't going to pass on this Ed Reed type of player when we think he is the best player on the board.

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    On 12/15/2016 at 11:10 PM, Desert said:

    lmao, Suggs has Never been the "General" on this team. He Plays at half speed now, Even takes plays off, Just like Ngata use to.

    Can't seal the edge, too slow. I was shocked they brought him back this year. When will we get younger at the edges?

    This current lack of pass rush has been exposing our week secondary for the last two years now.

    Huh?

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    3 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

    That's just not true unless you are speaking solely from a opinionated standpoint. While Flacco hasn't been stellar by any means, to say he's among the worse just isn't true. At least from a numbers stand point. Flacco is top 5 in yards, top 10 in completion and 3 TDs away from being in the top 10 in that category. Now with that being said he's among the bottom of the league in ypa, ints and QB rating. So he certainly isn't playing lights out. 

    An argument can be made that Flacco is the top QB in the AFC North this year by the numbers and he certainly has outperformed every QB in the AFCN over the last 3 games.

    Ben: 59/103 57% 795yds 3TDs 4Ints....Dalton: 59/86 68% 659yds 4TDs 1Int.......Flacco 89/129 69% 911yds  8TDs 3Ints

     I doubt if the Bengals or Steelers are talking about getting rid of their QBs right now. Again Flacco isn't playing stellar or lights out right now, but to say he's among the worse is a overstatement imo. 

    He's among the worst. His stats are very inflated which is the opposite of how it usually is for him. He throws the ball more than any winning qb in the league. For a team who's run pass ratio is what it is he should have those "glorious" stats you mentioned, but our offense is a liability. He sucks this year. 

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  13. Posted · Edited by 52liveforever · Report post

    2 minutes ago, Moderator 3 said:

    This section is specifically set up for this kind of thing.  I moved it here so it would be noticed.

    You put it here to not be noticed. 

     

    Juet read your response. I apologize, but I wish they'd read Ravens talk because no one else  looks here to add input.

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    Stop defending Flacco. Stop ignoring the fact West and Dixon are actually running well when they are given the chance. Acknowledge Smith and Young are the two most important players to our team because without either one of them we can't win.  Call for Pees to get get paid. Please people add on as you see fit. I get the writers shouldnt bash our team, but they should challenge it.

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