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I still feel like Seattle will comeback and Atlanta will fade. I'm pulling for Atlanta.  Always like to see fresh blood deep in the playoffs.  

Edit: They really needed a TD there though.  

On 1/6/2017 at 3:11 PM, rmw10 said:

I want to watch La La Land so bad but I'm not sure I can get over the whole musical aspect of it.  I've heard it's incredible though, but I feel like I'd lose interest so quickly.

The musical aspect really isn't that bad.  The opening scene has this big song and dance, which worried me a bit but then things settled down.  There really are only a few sung songs.  But those songs are paired with stunning cinematography and lyrics that add to the story.  It's the type of musical that non-musical viewers can enjoy.  

The ending is what puts a stamp on the film.  

On 7/13/2013 at 6:29 PM, codizzle said:

Birdman cause it has my future wife in it...

Emma Stone

Digging up posts from the past.  Have you seen your girl in La La Land yet?  Could get her an Oscar.  It's a competitive race but damn was she stellar in La La Land. She told a million stories with her face alone.  

3 minutes ago, drillem said:

How did the defense fold like a cheap suit in the 4th quarter after such a decent 3 quarters?  Something smells to high heaven.

Has the Raven D ever proven they can shut down a game when playing from ahead?  There is a consistent weak link.  

15 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

That is true. Add in his drug problems/suspensions. I highly doubt you see the Steelers offer him anything more than a couple years with some heavy stipulations built into the contract. 

It could get sticky.  Bell wants to be paid and when he plays is well worth the money.  But the Steelers need to hedge their bets with the injuries and suspensions.  The tag is the only likely solution and I could see Bell being rebellious (like smoking some more).  Still a good chunk of money to tie up in a RB though.  

4 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

That will be the easiest franchise tag in the history of the league.

Agreed.  But I doubt Bell will be happy about it.  With all of his injury concerns and money hungry rap songs, he could put up a fight under the tag.  

Yes, Super Bowls do not grow on trees.  One of my favorite sayings.  The Ravens have the leadership from the top to be perennial contenders, albeit mostly fringe contenders.  Honestly, we have been spoiled by our prior success, and jaded by aspiring to be the dominating Patriots with their HOF coach and QB.

At the end of the day, we are considered a winning organization.  But you can't blame the fans for wanting more.....like a dynasty.  

1 minute ago, cnyravens said:

Yeah but our Overall Defensive Rating is near the top of the League!

Fact is in crunch time Pees is a loser!!!

Agreed.  The proof is in the pudding.  The defense has always struggled maintaining two score leads late in games under Dean.  With or without the players to execute.  Play-calling tends to go conservative and fail.  His defense proved it can be great, but fails under the stress test everytime.  

Just now, OUravensfan said:

And don't forget Waller and hell, granted it would of been amazing, but Perriman hauls in that catch wow. So many it hurts, and your 3rd bullet is a brutal form of irony, but obviously no guarantee we score there (though we probably do) if he did go down. 

Our offense was moving the ball well this game.  Some games it seems impossible to score with three downs on the one.  But in this one, I think four downs at the 1 and we score without much resistance.  

We were all cheering when Juice reached for the endzone.  But damn, if only his knee went down it would have played better.  Can't fault the guy, he breaks a tackle and sees the endzone within reach.  Absolutely stellar play.  One that us Ravens fans will have remembered.....if we won.  

I think he can really blossom if the Ravens plan to move the ball downfield.  There has to be times where he is one-on-one without safety help.  In these scenarios you have to throw up the ball and see what he can do.  This is something the Ravens and Joe tend to shy away from. 

With that being said, his drops will be a continued frustration throughout his career.  He seems to be one of those players that can make the tougher catches look easier than the routine ones.  

13 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

Ironic isn't it? 

Now to check off 30TDs next season, that can't look ugly can it?? lol

I'm sure Joe and the Ravens could make a 30 passing TD season ugly after this year.  

1 minute ago, OUravensfan said:

Really sickening loss, so many missed opportunities Mili, story of the year I suppose. Trying to erase it from memory but I'm sure if Mosley didn't have a bad angle he could of stopped Brown. 

Do you see a new OC and/or DC here next season? We'll definitely need to supplement the loss of Smith Sr. I'm assuming likely through FA. 

I hope to see a lot of Perriman, Moore and Smith this Bengals game, I love Dixon.

This is a really sickening loss because there were so many moments in this game that if one thing occurred, it could have changed the outcome in our favor.  

-We stop Brown at the 1.  They have to spike and maybe have enough time to kick a FG.  

-We were a second away from stripping Ben from behind on a throw late in the game.

-If Juices knee goes down at the 1 yard line. We could have shaved at least another 30 seconds off the clock.  

-If Denis and Joe connect on one of their two failed TD attempts.

Harbs is a tough case.  He shouldn't be fired but I also think he'll never be a top coaching mind.  He is a great leader and motivator.  Our players never quit on him, the evidence is in all the close games.  Doesn't matter how big an underdog or how many points down we are, the players keep playing hard.  Thats the power of John.

The downside is that he just isn't a brilliant football mind.  He will never win the chess match with long vision, he is a type of player that swaps pieces and hopes to eke it out in the endgame. He has little input in the X's and O's.  And can never outcoach anyone.  That is why you must hire strong coordinators and not castaways.  

Imagine if you told Ravens fans at the beginning of the season that Joe would throw for over 4,000 yards for the first time in his career.  We'd all envision a successful season like 10-6 or 11-5.  This was the ugliest 4,000 yard season.  Definitely not how any of us would have pictured a 4,000 yard season.  

1 minute ago, jboy19 said:

Yeah poor Broncos don't even realize that even if they win tonight, the Patriots are gonna take safeties every drive next week to ensure the Dolphins get in over them haha.

If the Bills beat the Dolphins and Oakland lost this weekend, I envisioned the Pats losing to ensure the Ravens were kept out of the wildcard spot.  They'd rather face the inexperienced Dolphins and a backup QB than an experienced Ravens team on the road to the SB.

5 minutes ago, Ravens419 said:

Yeah when I think of someone like that I think Andre Johnson for some reason just a top flight WR that I feel like fits the "Raven culture" obviously long gone but just someone that came to mind when I read that 

Yea, Andre Johnson was also the guy I pictured.  In his heyday he was one of the best at the position without the drama.  

3 minutes ago, Gruntled Ravens Fan said:

Actually there were reports that Baltimore was going to take Dez but Dallas jumped one spot in front of us. Sammy went #4 and OBJ went 13th. Unless we traded up there is no way they were going to come to us. Luckily for us this draft has good receivers in it.

Reports.  I'll believe it when I see it.  The WRs we have taken in early rounds are Mark Clayton, Torrey Smith, and Perriman.  All of whom would be on the ultra good side of character.  

1 minute ago, jboy19 said:

Never thought I'd see Matt Moore, Matt McGloin and Tom Savage as starting QBs in the playoffs haha. 

It is music to Pats and Steelers ears. That is why you just want a ticket to the dance.  You have a bunch of teams with little playoff experience and backup quarterbacks.  This AFC playoffs all you need is one big win against the Pats or Steelers and the rest of the path is easier to the SB.  

Well some good news is that the Steelers are probably going to have to invest a lot of money in their RB after the season.  He's going to finish the season strong going into unrestricted FA.  And he wants to be paid.  

Just now, Ravens419 said:

For sure and I understand all of that but Joe has never had that target like Eli can look to OBJ and they just know to turn it up and they trust each other or Ben with AB the only person I think Joe has is Dennis and there is only so much a TE can do I understand drafting one would be hard but a FA WR if there are any gems out there idk who all will be on the market but someone young and good... Joe I really wish we never let Q go I loved him and I hate knowing SSR is done I may love him more 

I'm with you though.  I would love to get a dominant #1 WR.  Sadly with Ozzie and John running the show, they will probably never take a chance on a super diva like OBJ, Dez, or Sammy, which rules out a lot of top playmakers at the position.  Because they don't fit the "Ravens culture"

2 minutes ago, baroquenspirit said:

The Raiders may have had a shot but Carr's injury ended that. 

That is such a bummer.  It was nice to see some fresh exciting blood in the playoffs.  Instead the NFL product is giving us plenty of crappy AFC teams to root for against the machine.  

Just now, jboy19 said:

To add insult to injury, the only AFC teams that have ever eliminated the Pats in the Brady-era (Broncos 3x, Ravens 2x, Jets and Colts) are all eliminated assuming that the Chiefs win tonight. 

Let's go Cheifs!  

Just like we know a tough loss/(maybe win) is inevitable when we are up two scores in the 4th, its seems inevitable that either the Patriots or Steelers will be representing the AFC in the Super Bowl again.  It's sickening.  If it goes to a Steelers-Pats AFC championship team, I'm sort of lost as to who I want to win.  At least only one of them can go to the SB.  

This is almost as bad as the time we lost to the Steelers in the AFC championship game only to send the Steelers to the SB.  Ugh. 

5 minutes ago, Ravens419 said:

Mike is good but he isn't someone you build around none of our receivers are every year it's the same stuff we never give joe anyone who is an AB and Julio and OBJ we leave him with very good old players which is fine but once he builds with them they're gone I think it's ridiculous I think it's time we spend some money on a WR in FA and if we get someone good I see good things next year we may have found a new ray rice in KD and Twest is good too just gotta incorporate them more kinda dumb I think with a full offseason with Marty with offense will look good IF we sign a WR we have Benjamin Watson back next year too I can't wait to see what him and Dennis can do 

Too be fair.  Antonio Brown was in a lower class than Julio and OBJ coming out of school.  A round six pick that was a very deep gem.  Those are sort of hard to gauge.  And having an elite #1 receiver has never guaranteed you a SB.  

Ozzie got the heat off a little with the 2016 draft.  Stanley, Lewis, Dixon, Young, and Judon are looking like bright spots in our future.  But Ozzie has had his struggles in recent years.  Especially near the top of the draft and when it comes to skilled players.  Nowadays he's at his best finding great role players and not game breakers.

He has shown off some decent skill in free agency.  He'll need to do it again in 2017.  But IMO, he really needs to get a splash player in the draft.    

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

We'll just have to agree to disagree here.  I've seen nothing but abject failure from Marty.  The same issues that plagued us early in the season still persist even this week.  It's not a playbook issue.  It's a decision making issue with him.

I just don't see any way that Marty should be considered.  It doesn't make us a better team, and I think it's more than likely going to result in a similar offensive performance that we've seen this year than it is some big change that propels this offense.  He's given me no reason to think otherwise.

As far as the disconnect, it's pretty clear to me.  Flacco called him out for being conservative.  Harbaugh went as far as to call him out in his presser after the "worst call of all time."  They've panned numerous times to Harbaugh shaking his head on TV after a play call.  I think there are definitely some tensions in the building.

I can't see us bringing back Marty either.  But knowing the Ravens they might.  Marty gets a semi-pass for two reasons.  One - we need consistency out of the O-cord position and two, this really wasn't his offense. 

But with that being said.  I agree with you that he showed absolutely nothing with his output.  His play calling was more on the frustrating side than promising.  Marty coming from the school of Andy Reid is just not what this offense needs.  Neither was Trestman.  They need to get these coordinator hires right.  While it might seem the coordinator is always the scapegoat, it still has some merit.  The guys we bring in just aren't fits for the pieces we have. Our O-Cord is just as important as the HC in this organization and we need to treat it such and not waste it on flame-outs.