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    On 12/27/2016 at 3:00 PM, Gtown Purple said:

    Our defense played scared most of the second half.

    Typical Pees' scheme, Play decent for 3 1/2 quarters, drop back and give away games in the last 5 minutes = Lost games

    On 12/28/2016 at 6:57 AM, RaineV1 said:

    Even thought I'm not a fan of Pees, I won't try to pin the lack of pressure on him. Jernigan is up and down, and our edge guys just could not consistently win one on one battles.

    Lack of pass rush on both edges Again. Suggs and Doom. Too much cap money for Zero performance.

    On 12/28/2016 at 8:21 AM, VermontRaven said:

    If Harbaugh is fired, no coach is safe because a new coach probably would want to bring in his guys.

    I personally think (with zero inside knowledge) Harbaugh and Pees are safe for one more year. This defense was pretty darn good this year when healthy. Find another corner and pass rusher and I think this D could be scary good.

     

    Another argument for replacing our current pass rushers.

    On 12/28/2016 at 10:43 AM, The Raven said:

    Bad pressure. When you don't win one on ones, it doesn't matter what the call is.

    WE lost a lot of battles in the trenches all year.

    On 12/28/2016 at 2:00 PM, ALPHA said:

    A lot of it is guys getting worn down, constant 3 and outs don't help but there are some guys who are obviously running on fumes and not being substituted. We need to work on that too (and probably won't).

    Defense can't get off the field, too many big plays down the field due to NO pass rush = losses

    On 12/28/2016 at 11:26 PM, Cillmatic said:

    Our top pass rushers were Suggs, Dumervil and Albert. That's not gonna get you far in 2016.

    Bingo.

    On 12/29/2016 at 6:36 AM, ravensdfan said:

    It wasn't "a drive". It was 21 pts. in the 4th quarter. Certainly some of that is lack of execution but defensive collapses in the 4th is not a new thing since Pees came here. 21 pts. They could not even hold them to a FG with only 78 seconds remaining. There is definitely fault at the feet of the coordinator when something like this is a trend and not an anomaly. Every Ravens' fan groaned when the offense scored - because everyone of them KNEW this defense wouldn't hold and they'd left Pitt too much time. What does that tell you? That this sort of defensive collapse is now an expected thing.

    Five seasons of this - five. Different players have come and gone (some have moved on to have success after being called failures and taking the blame for Pees). At some point, the truth has to be admitted - the only common denominator is Pees.

    Yes I agree, Bad coordinator with old slow edge rushers = lost games

    On 12/29/2016 at 4:32 PM, BmoreBird22 said:

    I said this prior in this thread, but at one point on Sunday, the Ravens threw out Jernigan, Suggs, Judon, and maybe Doom, but definitely the first three.

    If I said those three were out on the same down, you'd think sack, right?

    Nope, instead it was a long pass play because Ben had five plus seconds to move around. But hey, at least they got the quarterback hit.

    NO Pass Rush = Bad Qb's looking like Tom Brady.

    On 12/29/2016 at 4:40 PM, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

    Well in part the Steelers have a good oline. But I don't trust Suggs as a pass rusher. Most of his sacks have been effort sacks this season. He's been on the decline. Judon needs to develop more but has a ton of promise. Loads more than Smith showed last year. Jernigan is a very good player but isn't elite. I've always said he's a good tertiary guy.

     

    if you ask me. We need Henry and Kaufausi to come out big next year to help out the interior pressure. Don't be surprised if we draft another Dlinemen in addition to an edge rusher

    Suggs needs to go, Iv'e said this all year, Too old and slow.

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    This quote after the game is classic

    “We got to address some issues,” outside linebacker Terrell Suggsicon-article-link.gif said. “We got to be honest with ourselves and we got to address those issues if we want a chance at success, if we don’t want to be on the outside looking in.”

    Start by announcing your own retirement, No place for old, slow, one arm pass rushers in this league.

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    Get rid of ALL the "Old Farts" , I would rather watch first year players, that play with passion and act like they want to be NFL players.

    This lethargic team we have currently makes me depressed, I watch this team make the same dumb mistakes week after week all season. Only means two things , you are not that good to begin with or your coaching staff sucks. Which is it?

    I say blow it up, bring some young coaching staff in here , even if they have to learn on the job its better then this crap.

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    13 hours ago, HazDaGeneral said:

    its obviously on old man suggs and doom they couldnt get no pressure what so ever 

     

    13 hours ago, allblackraven said:

    As soon as we change to zone the other team absolutely torches us. This hasn't happened for the first time, our coaches do that Crap every single game.

    Our defensive line completely disappeared last 3 games. We have no pass rush whatsoever. Changes are needed for 2017 and I hope they are coming, starting with play callers on both sides of the ball. 

     

     

    12 hours ago, OldToby said:

    Such an overrated defense. Terrible, terrible. Idk if you put the blame on the play calling or the defensive players. Suggs allowed several big plays. The pass rush was NON EXISTENT. 

     

    12 hours ago, codizzle said:

    Please find a pass rusher 

     

    12 hours ago, sflegend89 said:

    We need a pass rusher so bad. Suggs/Doom ain't getting it done consistently against the good Tackles at this stage in their careers.

    We desperately need someone who can win 1 on 1 off the edge. Rushing 4 is so pointless against any decent OL.

     

    12 hours ago, Cville-Raven said:

    Us losing could be a blessing. This game made it very evident we need more talent at the edge and corner back positions. Getting a top 20 pick will benefit us in the long run. Just asking way too much of Suggs at this point in his career. Peas needs to take the fall for the late season collapse of the defense.

     

    12 hours ago, Edug27 said:

    Wallace

    SSS (retire)

    Wright

    Webb

    Suggs (retire or cut)

    Doom

    ... all need to be gone. Time to rebuild the WR, secondary and pass rushing group. You have pieces to start building the o-line. I love the LB'er tandem in Orr and Mosley. You need a ball hawker beside Weddle. Completely rebuild the wideout group. Wallace provides little if he's not catching deep balls. We need sure handed chain movers. Dixon needs to be the feature back. Enough of this 2 back rotation. You can't count on Jimmy to play a full season or suit up for big games, so corners are a huge need. 

     

     

    12 hours ago, cnyravens said:

    They flat out lost to a better team!

    Should have lost last week to the Eagles!

    Sorry but Suggs is toast as is Dummerville.

    And please stop with Jimmy Smith out being an excuse.

    This team is a shell of what classic Raven teams used to exemplify.

    Ray Lewis must be sick to his stomach.

    Harbaugh and the coaching staff needs to go.

    Play NOT to lose and you lose every time!

     

    12 hours ago, HoldingCall said:

    Suggs was seen on the sideline early having his arm attended to or examined. Probably still injured! 

     

    12 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

     

     

    No significant pass rush.  2nd game in a row where our D couldn't stop the run.  Aiken can't get his head around because he lacks awareness. Perriman drops a ball and then double clutches next catch.  All pro long snapper airmails a snap. Bad Joe looks awful on checkdowns, but throws like a champ downfield.  Williams and Jernigan essentially disappear. Suggs looks like a snail.  Waller drops a TD ball.  Just wasn't our day, but if we don't absolutely clean house Harbs, Newsome the whole works I'll be disappointed because we are not sitting on a playoff team for next year or near years to come. I'll leave it on the Bengals outcome, if and only if we win, Harbs can stay.

     

    12 hours ago, jimmypowder said:

    Neither Suggs or Doom should be on this team next year. They are done.

    Put a fork in them . Sadly . 

     

    12 hours ago, ratedr said:

    Suggs should've never been extended. I believed that at the time and it continues to be confirmed.

     

    11 hours ago, perryhall said:

    If you watched every ravens game this year, you know that they just played their second best game of the year. It was a great game to watch. Unlike many of their victories which are pretty ugly. 

    The defense did collapse at the end of this game. It s highly doubtful this would have happened if Jimmy Smith played today. 

    The defense isn't to blame for the season they had. Some say the high ranking for this defense isn't accurate in view of the competition yet the offense played the same competition and was ranked 29th . In this game the defense which did collapse in the end ,gave the offense every opportunity to score many more points. 

    The defense needs to improve some,specifically pass rushing and one more corner.  However,the offense needs to improve dramatically. 

    Ok, I have read through only half of this thread. NOW to you guys believe what I have said through out this year? 

    The total lack of pass rush is KILLING this defense, You can't give quarterbacks that much time to look for receivers down field.

    The most popular comment so far today has been the lack of performance all year by Doom and Suggs. Fix this position and we automatically have a better defense. It only took one more win this year to turn this thing around.

    Yea, I'm pissed because of this outcome, but it is fixable. 

    Desert

    PS: sorry for the double post

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    Ok, I have read through only half of this thread. NOW to you guys believe what I have said through out this year? 

    The total lack of pass rush is KILLING this defense, You can't give quarterbacks that much time to look for receivers down field.

    The most popular comment so far today has been the lack of performance all year by Doom and Suggs. Fix this position and we automatically have a better defense. It only took one more win this year to turn this thing around.

    Yea, I'm pissed because of this outcome, but it is fixable. 

    Desert

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    On 12/23/2016 at 0:14 AM, 52liveforever said:

    Huh?

    What part of "lack of pass rush" don't you understand? Most successful offensives do very well when their quarterback can sit back in the pocket for 7-10 seconds.

    The more time it takes our old warhorses to get there means the secondary has to cover longer, They are not doing the job they need to now, so how can they be asked to cover receivers longer?

    Elam should not even be on this team, and Webb was too slow to play corner. So how can he be asked to play safety.

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    21 hours ago, The Raven said:

    You're right tbh.

    But... Suggs has always taken plays off. If we're talking about this year though, Suggs took off the whole Patriots game. He's got eight sacks on the year which is ballin', but he only made one tackle against New England and he didn't record a single statistic against Pittsburgh... Where's he been when it's mattered? He didn't record a state against Miami either, and that was a blowout. He's on the decline big time, and if you can't see he's taking more plays off than ever before, well... smh.

    And he ain't never been the "general" of anything. Generals lead. Suggs just talks loud.

    If you ask me, Weddle looks like the general right now, which is sad since he's a transplant. People flock to him. They respect him. He made a big mistake against New England but doesn't take plays off. He grinds and he leads.

    And Suggs? He's just too busy crawling on all fours wagging his tongue like some kind of man child pretending to be a dog (that actually happened, by the way). He's always liked the attention more than anything.

    I knew I wasn't the only one who felt this way. Please understand I appreciate everything Suggs has accomplished in the past. But we still need more consistent play from that position. IMO and that of many others, its time to move on.

    I still have not forgotten Suggs showing up to training camp 30 lbs over weight, and out of shape. then using all of preseason and the first half of the season to get in shape. What king of "Veteren Leader" does that BS? Huh?

    Torn Achilles injuries are very rarely something players come back from at 100%.

    Oh and by the way, to "frozen joe flacco fan" the number of post on this forum has Nothing to do with  comments made here.

    Desert

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    7 minutes ago, jboy said:

    Joke Flacco has lost it. He's killing the team with his lackadaisical effort and he's not a leader. I can't even watch the games anymore. The team is sloppy and makes lots of mistakes,penalties,etc. This indicates bad coaching which points to Harbaugh . We have older players who are constantly injured. Time to blow this team up. We're going nowhere with this mgt and players. Kubiak was a excellent OC and the team played to a higher level with him here. Without him Harbaugh is exposed as a bad decision maker and appears to be pressing. Look, we just don't have the talent anymore. If we had the talent maybe Flacco and Harbaugh wouldn't seem so bad, but we don't, so they are really exposed. We might win 1 more game this year. What is troubling is that it appears the players have quit on Harbaugh, you can see it on the field. They just melt in crunch time.

    Right now I feel the same way, But I feel this team can play better. I would be happy with a functioning offense, that looks like a "Professional NFL" team.

    A team that can string some first downs together and move the ball down the field.

    I would accept losing and getting beat by a better team, but giving games away is just too painful.

     

    Desert

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    I ask this question in all seriousness, As a fan it just seems like we repeat the same mistakes week after week. Please help me to understand how this gets fixed.

    Is it me? but other games I watch don't seem to have the "Same" problems every week. I understand the nature of the game , and no one is perfect. Sure is frustrating.

     

    Desert

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