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Watching our secondary battle versus these AFC North receivers and tight ends is going to be fun to watch

Love white he's underrated

1 minute ago, redlobster said:

Ravens ran a lie detector test on gareon Conley lol

So maybe Humphrey was rated higher

 

I know the secondary had some issues, but I'm not sure if getting four really good corners and three good safeties needed to be such a huge priority this off-season

Foster, Howard, Allen, Hooker

This is really interesting we're gonna get a great player 16... or Ozzie will trade back

I think Cinci is aware how very average Dalton is

49 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Idk if derek rivers falls that far

Probably not. I didn't want to include trades, but I think there's a good chance we move back early to get an extra say mid rounder. In this situation I would have traded back from our 2nd then used that extra pick to trade up for Rivers

1 hour ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Im starting to think he wont be there at 16. 

I could see Jacksonville, Tenn, SD, Buff, NO, Phi, and Indy all having a look if theyre that high on him.

Apparently teams love this guy and he might have flown past Foster -- diluted sample or not.

Bengals could take him too, would fill their LB and pass rusher need. Guys who are as athletic as Von Miller with that kind of production and versatility don't fall far.

4 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Still going with Conley that high in light of the recent news?

Ya he's a wild card. Eagles are the one team I could see taking him that high though. If they pass on him, in this situation I think they'd take Humphrey or Barnett

It's almost that time...

1 Cleveland - Myles Garrett DE

2 SF - Jamal Adams S

3 Chicago - Malik Hooker S

4 Jax - Leonard Fournette RB

5 Tenn - Marshon Lattimore CB

6 *Cleveland - Mitch Trubisky QB

7 LAC - Solomon Thomas DE

8 Carolina - Christian McCaffrey RB

9 Cinci - Haason Reddick OLB

10 Buffalo - OJ Howard TE

11 NO - Rueben Foster LB

12 *NYJ - Deshaun Watson QB

13 Arizona - Patrick Mahomes QB

14 Philly - Gareon Conley CB

15 Indi - Jonathan Allen DE

16 Baltimore - Mike Williams WR

17 Washington - Dalvin Cook RB

18 Tenn - Corey Davis WR

19 Tampa Bay - David Njoku TE

20 Denver - Ryan Ramzcyk OT

21 Detroit - Charles Harris DE

22 Miami - Derek Barnett DE

23 NYG - Forrest Lamp OL

24 Oakland - Marlon Humphrey CB

25 Houston - Cam Robinson OL

26 Seattle - Garett Bolles OT

27 KC - Jarrad Davis LB

28 Dallas - Taco Charlton DE

29 GB - Takkarist McKinley OLB

30 Pitt - Jabrill Peppers S

31 ATL - Chidobe Awuzie CB

32 NO - Tre'Davious White CB

 

Ravens selections:

1st Round: Mike Williams | WR | Clemson

Williams could obviously go earlier, but he could also fall due to some rising QB's and a number of great defenders. One of Williams or Davis should be there at 16 if the Ravens want one of them. Mike Williams will always have his weaknesses but his strengths are so overwhelming. He's built like a power forward with his size and wingspan. Has an elite ability to position his body, time his jump and come down with the ball. Speed is decent enough for his size. He's the ideal 3rd down and red zone target for Flacco and there's a lot of Alshon Jeffrey to his game. Williams is battle tested in big moments and has performed well versus the top DB's college has to offer.

 

2nd: Dion Dawkins | OL | Temple

I would think offensive line is the biggest priority to get a starter at. Dawkins played tackle at Temple, and his best fit may be inside. The team wants to get bigger up front and Dawkins would provide some much needed power to the run game. Dawkins is athletic enough to be a good pass protector as well, particularly in the interior. He and Lewis' versatility would be valuable. Those two along with Stanley are great young pieces to put with Yanda. The team likes Temple players as well.

 

3rd: Derek Rivers | OLB | Youngstown State

Rivers checks off the small school player criteria of elite production. He jumps off the tape with his athleticism. Shows good bend around the corner and wins with explosion, leverage and power. The step up in competition will be steep, but I think the potential is there for him to be really good. The Ravens are great at developing athletic linebackers like Rivers.

Waiting this long to address pass rusher isn't ideal, but the offense could take precedence as they are currently lightyears behind the defense. I do like the depth at OLB in the first few rounds too. I hope we come away with a guy like Rivers, Lawson, Williams, Bowser or even Basham. This could also depend on how the team views Judon's potential. I wouldn't count on Z Smith making an impact, but don't forget Kaufusi is also an option to play some there in a four man front. 

 

3rd Round: Rasul Douglas | CB | West Virginia

Douglas is a long corner with great ball skills. His instincts and awareness put him in good position and allow him to create a lot of turnovers. He will need to be protected over top a bit because of some stiffness and lack of long speed, but he has the ability to be a playmaking outside CB. Great fit in Pees' zone defense and he has the size and physicality to grow in press man.

 

4th Round: Ejaun Price | OLB | Pittsburgh

Price is one of the rare short edge rushers I actually like. He makes up for his stature by having long arms and winning the leverage battle. Off the line he's explosive and very powerful engaging blockers. He'll probably never be a full time player, but could be quite valuable in a Dumervil esque role. Ozzie may look to double dip at edge rusher considering Judon is really the only future option and it is a pretty good class. Despite the size limitation, I think Price's game translates to the next level.

 

5th Round: Jon Toth | C | Kentucky

Developmental center with the power to make become an impact run defender. Dawkins and Toth are both the type of linemen that D'Alessandris does well with.

 

6th: Blair Brown | ILB | Ohio

Undersized linebacker with toughness and instincts. He may always be a rotational backer, but can be a good one. Unless Foster falls to 16, a rotation next to Mosley is probably the way to go.

9 hours ago, Cillmatic said:

Williams has the ceiling of Brandon Marshall. Davis has the ceiling of TO.

I see a lot of Alshon in Williams. Jordy Nelson probably the closest to Davis. If I keep going Desean Jackson to Ross.

With the 42nd pick the New Orleans Saints select 

Evan Engram, TE, Ole Miss

1. Forrest Lamp
2. Ryan Ramczyk
3. Cam Robinson
4. Pat Elflein
5. Dion Dawkins
6. Taylor Moton
7. Jermaine Elumenor
8. Chase Roullier
9. Jon Toth
10. Jordan Morgan
11. Mike Williams
12. Corey Davis
13. Taywan Taylor
14. Juju Smith-Schuster
15. Isaiah Ford
16. Zay Jones
17. Cooper Kupp
18. Takk McKinley
19. Tim Williams 
20. Carl Lawson
21. Derek Rivers
22. Tyus Bowser
23. Ejaun Price
24. Tanzel Smart
25. Jarron Jones
26. Reuben Foster
27. Blair Brown
28. Shaquill Griffin
29. Howard Wilson
30. Ahkello Witherspoon
31. Damontae Kazee
32. Rasul Douglas

1. WR - Flacco needs better than just decent receivers. It's also the one position the Ravens can't draft well and getting one of the top, more established ones would be more ideal imo. The FO has shown they can find and develop OL and pass rushers in almost every round, not WRs though. Perriman is the only even semi-dependable receiver for the future.

2. Edge - A consistent presence off the edge could make this defense elite. Suggs is getting older and playing less. Judon is the only future piece there.

3. OL - Must find a new starter at LG/RT. Center could use an upgrade too, especially vs the run. Yanda, Stanley and Lewis is a really good start though.

4. CB - There's actually a lot of talent here. Just age and injury concerns. So many good corners in this class.

4 hours ago, KBoum said:

4-3.. 3-4 ... Not of a lot of teams run these typical schemes anymore.

Last 2 years the Ravens played 70-75% Nickle with 3 CBs. Sometimes with 4 on the line, sometimes with 3 on the line. After the halfway of the season last year the Ravens played 4-3 Under VS 2 WRs formations. But at the end of the day a 4-3 Under is kinda similar to the 3-4... except you move your DE a bit more outside to take on the RT so the SAM Backer is against the TE/FB/RB. That scheme is a lot better with SAM like Correa/McClellan. They don't have a 280 pounds SAM (Upshaw) anymore to play against OT. At the end of the day, Reddick can play 4-3 Under, he can play Nickle LB. You can even use him on the line wide 9 Dime package rushing the passer. He's got such a great bend around the corner so you can use him on passing situations. What impressed me the more about Reddick is at the Senior Bowl. The guy just learned a "new" position and was lights out the best player on the field. What we learned at the Senior bowl is the guy is a baller. He can play a stand up role LB. If they wanna play a 3-4 hybrid ? He can bounce inside. If they wanna run a 4-3 Under ? No problem he can play SAM and you bring Jefferson the Will. 

 

I still don't think he'll be the pick at 16, imo I think they'll try to give Correa one more shot at it. They are kinda similar but Reddick is more refined, more NFL ready. We'll see after a complete offseason with NFL training coachs what Correa can do. Thats why I think they'll go more a Sugg/Barnett/Charlton type of player. I think they'll target Pass rushers that can play hands in the dirt on rushing situations as well. Players who are a bit heavier so they could MAYBE even move them to 5 tech. Don't forget there's a need there as well. Maybe they have high hopes for Urban I don't know

Yeah I think reddick would be fine here. He can play the edge standing up and he fits perfectly in the 4-3 base and 4-3 under. 4-3 under is probably the ideal fit with him playing a Bruce Irvin like role.

 

I think he'll develop into a dangerous double threat in coverage and rushing the passer. Not great against the run, but that's not what the defense needs. It's scary how athletically similar Reddick is to Von Miller

Davis, Reddick or Barnett

Really like the first four players. Griffin doesn't get enough love here

1 Corey Davis

2 Carl Lawson

3 Pat Elflein

3 Ahkello Witherspoon

1 hour ago, -Truth- said:

I've seen him in the 2nd-3rd range mostly, at least via CBS Sports, ESPN Insider and Matt Miller, but I do agree in that he is flying somewhat under the radar in discussions.

He'd be a good 3rd round pick. Same with Taywan Taylor who doesn't get enough love imo

Peppers or a CB not named Marshon. Even though I really like Conley and White in particular, I also like what there is at the position and we need to address something other than DB. I think the 3rd or 4th round, possibly 2nd is the time to grab a CB.

Peppers imo, other than his return and offensive abilty, doesn't provide the team with anything it doesn't already have for the next 4 years.

17 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

If we draft Malik McDowell at 16 to replace and upgrade the hell out of Jernigan, who is undoubtedly the most talented realistic possibility at 16, then this defense is probably the best in the league. This run stopping front, this secondary, all elite, the only thing missing is an edge rush but Judon and Suggs could prove formidable as hell and drafting a McDowell gives an elite talent who plays at 7 different down techniques at a very high level. If one of urban, Henry, or kaufusi pan out as a good 5T as well then we have something special. 2 solid edge rushing OLBs, an elite 5T/3T hybrid and another good 5T with a guy like williams to push the pocket up front will have our pass rush improving in a big way

Apparently McDowell has been awful in interviews. Work ethic is definitely a question mark and the inconsistencies show up on tape. But he is one of the 5 most talented players in this class imo

Saints select

Austin Rehkow, P, Idaho

Saints select

Jordan Evans, LB, Oklahoma

Someone want to take my pick? This is taking forever