Sorry, John, but QB's don't have "winning records". You may have football confused w/baseball. I usually agree w/most of your opinions and you have more knowledge and writing skills in your pinkie than the "others" on here. I imagine you'd never get a teammate of Average Joe's to say it publicly, but they have to get sick and tired of hearing about "unflappable" Joe having all his winning records. A real joke. There is a reason that, outside of us Ravens fans, most other people consistently rank Average Joe as just that......average. I'm not here to bash our QB at all. I just see things as they are. I'm a huge Ravens fan.....just not a Flacco worshipper. I honestly feel that he should be ranked around #10-12 in starting NFL QB's. Maybe w/his new weapons, he can and will be a bit more consistent. I think he may, if some key players remain healthy.