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  3. Posted · Edited by Sizzlebshu · Report post

    11 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

    Well he never became the completed dominant force like Suh. I suspect work ethic as he has all the talent in the world. 

    I suspect its ppl are scared to give him a long term deal due to wt and health concerns

     

    maybe he isnt a full time player. Who knows, but if you believe pff, he should be getting more

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    1 hour ago, -Truth- said:

    These are questionable assessments across the board. Roethlisberger isn't pressured. He comes back to Brown after reading through his progressions and voluntarily steps up into bodies after realizing there's no window to thread the needle into. This was the arc of the pocket before his ill-advised decision and the location of Brown and Amerson. The throw itself comes 5 seconds after the snap, which is well above the norm. An earlier and deeper throw may have had a glimpse of hope but nothing more. Stafford isn't involved in the second play as  Unlikely completion either way, however, the throw was somewhat behind. Johnson isn't remotely close to finding or even building separation on the third play. Not even a sliver. That you've automatically jumped to assuming that he'd be due to beat Anderson for a long score makes one wonder about the level of objectivity considering that Amerson is squarely in his hip pocket in what is textbook coverage. This is the closest he was in separating from Amerson. This was Amerson reaching over Johnson's hands for the PD, for which he was officially charted for. Nowhere near a drop on Johnson's end. The assessment of the last play misses the entire concept of the coverage combination. Johnson is the only eligible receiver on the right side and Oakland is clearly rolling coverage to his side with Nate Allen sitting on the numbers. Amerson sticks underneath the route, as he's meant to do given the help over top, and then closes on the out to cut it off underneath. Again, this is the location of the two while the throw is nearing the target. Yet it's somehow classified as a beat and poor throw. It's the same concepts we've seen throughout the league, much like Adam Jones' INT not long ago. The only difference was that Jones did a better job of staying of Demaryius Thomas' inside shoulder throughout the route. The openings you're referring to span a maximum of milliseconds and inches in space, and that's perhaps a generous statement. Honestly, I doubt this discussion gets anywhere considering how far off we are from each other's viewpoint.

    We can argue this back and forth, but let's just see how he does. 

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    19 hours ago, -Truth- said:

    It's a fair concern in terms of which version of Amerson will appear in 2016 considering that he was arguably one of the worst CBs in football in 2014. To his defense, however, he more than held his own against some of the better receivers in the league. I've went through all of his targets months ago and the tape was riddled with impressive plays. Most of the time, he was either seemingly left on an island or manned up in the two-man under. In a few of the games I've went through, he faced Antonio Brown with Ben Roethlisberger, Keenan Allen with Philip Rivers and Calvin Johnson with Matthew Stafford, three stout groupings. In those match ups, he allowed a combined 5 catches for 41 yards, 0 scores and 1 INT. He got a hand on as many targets as he allowed. Here are the notable plays (Link1, Link2, Link3, Link4), and one against Golden Tate III for good measure (Link). He allowed a single catch between Johnson and Tate III. Now I'm certainly not going as far as naming Amerson as a shutdown corner and he obviously has to prove that he can carry over his performance, especially since he's had more struggling season than not. That being said, he finished the year with gaudy numbers given that he broke the franchise record for PDs with 25 despite only starting 12 games, and they at least weren't empty by any means. The tape was rock solid. I have a feeling he'll have a campaign closer to the most recent rather than the year before that.

    Play 1 - Ben gets pressured and moves up in the pocket and forces 1 to Brown missing an open man in the flat. This is good coverage by Amerson, I am not sure if Ben making a better throw changes this (on one hand if he saw Brown earlier, he could have thrown him open by throwing to the spot on the sideline, on the other, not sure if he would have made that throw or should have). 

    Play 2 - Amerson did get beat and recovered nicely here, but given the coverage, Stafford had to make a throw into a very tight window (can't tell but the throw looks to be behind rather than in front of the receiver. Don't think it matters much because the throw was dangerous either way given the other defender heads for the receiver). I kind of feel like the winner here is the the defensive scheme blanketing that route forcing the QB to make a perfect throw or bust. 

    Play 3 - Stafford gets basically a free rusher coming at him immediately which definitely affects the throw (ball is once again behind the receiver). If this were a deep route and the free rusher was picked up, Johnson has him beat for a long  TD. A better throw and this is probably a reception rather than a drop. Notable that there was no specific help over the top. 

    Play 4 - Amerson has help over the top. Johnson wins the route (twice with the double move), but Stafford misses the throw. 

     

    Sometimes a corner's job and win rate depends on how well he can cover to force QBs to make difficult throws or to miss them to protect the ball. Can't knock Amerson for that because he succeeded (which is why I knocked the QB in Stafford for missing opportunity), but I look at those plays and think well if it were a different guy, the opening is there. 

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    2 hours ago, -Truth- said:

    It's a fair concern in terms of which version of Amerson will appear in 2016 considering that he was arguably one of the worst CBs in football in 2014. To his defense, however, he more than held his own against some of the better receivers in the league. I've went through all of his targets months ago and the tape was riddled with impressive plays. Most of the time, he was either seemingly left on an island or manned up in the two-man under. In a few of the games I've went through, he faced Antonio Brown with Ben Roethlisberger, Keenan Allen with Philip Rivers and Calvin Johnson with Matthew Stafford, three stout groupings. In those match ups, he allowed a combined 4 catches for 35 yards, 0 scores and 1 INT. He got a hand on as many targets as he allowed. Here are the notable plays (Link1, Link2, Link3, Link4), and one against Golden Tate III for good measure (Link). He didn't allow a catch to Johnson nor to Tate III. Now I'm certainly not going as far as naming Amerson as a shutdown corner and he obviously has to prove that he can carry over his performance, especially since he's had more struggling season than not. That being said, he finished the year with gaudy numbers given that he broke the franchise record for PDs with 25 despite only starting 12 games, and they at least weren't empty by any means. The tape was rock solid. I have a feeling he'll have a campaign closer to the most recent rather than the year before that.

    I dont count the lions in that grouping because...well did you watch the lions this year? That line was so terrible that nothing worked out offensively

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    My only issue with David Amerson as a pick is which guy are you getting? 6 of the games he played this year were against some of the leagues worst passing situations (P. Manning and Denver, SD lost all its receivers, KC is one of the weakest groups in the league). Additionally, the year when a ton of QBs go down is the year where he finally "puts it together."

    I'd have to delve a little deeper into the qualification of the stats for him, but for me its hard to trust that the light just went on for him this year. 

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    1 hour ago, Mt. Crushmore said:

    I have @BmoreBird22's pick again in case he isn't around.

    I can't blame you for that, but in the late 8th I'm willing to take the risk given his talent level.

    I'd disagree on the cake walk schedule for Butler though. He played some top flight WRs. There's a great picture in this article showing who he covered and how often each game last year (linking the article instead of the picture as some of the players shown haven't been taken yet).

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-daily-focus-jets-poor-options-give-fitzpatrick-leverage/ 

    Wideouts, i can agree with. The qbs throwing to them not a chance

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    8 hours ago, Mt. Crushmore said:

    Well, this was the easiest pick of the draft so far for me as Joe Haden was my backup option to Joel Bitonio last time around. Haden hasn't become the elite, shutdown CB that was expected of him a few years ago (I took him in the early 2nd the first year of this), but he is still a quality CB. I'd say he is a low end 1, high end 2 type of CB. His value is overrated by some people, but at this point in the draft (pick 244 in the 8th rd), I'd argue that he's been so overrated that he's now underrated with this value. 

    He has been a good CB every year in his career except last year. However, he was injured and is historically a slow starter (and only played in early games really) so. Also, let's be honest, the nobody on the Browns other than Joe Thomas really played well last year.

    This is now my 3rd Brown on my team: Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio and Joe Haden.

    I'm very happy to pair Malcolm Butler with Joe Haden. Wasn't my initial plan coming into this round, but I also didn't expect Haden to fall to me.

    @Dubs is up

    Tbh I was going to wait to take him. I'm just too afraid one more concussion = career over. The concussion symptoms he suffered were fairly significant and well surgery on top of that (while a more minor concern) doesn't help his case. Definitely a better pick that Butler who is severely overrated and benefitted from a cake walk schedule and constant help over the top. Like the value here tho, just one of those guys thats a you can take him, but I wont. 

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