Just now, January J said:Well the Steelers lost one of their young stud receivers for the year due to a suspension too so no need to sit around and cry about it- lets keep it movin, either next man up or make a move and bring somebody in..it sucks but it is what it is- one wide receiver whos never seen the feild has never maken or breaken a team.
Yea I think the story would be different if it were AB who was lost compared to Martavis Bryant.
And that's why our passing game (outside of maybe 1 year) has perpetually sucked in a league trending towards passing offenses.
1 minute ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:I think the future of this position is just getting started... We drafted Reynolds and Moore and brought in Wallace.
Reynolds I doubt is going to be on the team in a year or two. I feel like he was a return guy with some upside maybe.
Moore is a talented guy, but asking him to step up to this level is probably a bit much this fast.
Wallace is a good player and can stretch, but he isn't going to be what perriman could have been for this offense.
2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:ok so... are there any plans out there? possibly throwing a few picks at a team with a young wr for a trade? i mean something NEEDS to be done about wr, the future of this position is so incredibly bleak now.
We rolle with Chris Moore and Mike Wallace to replace him. That was always the plan. Hopefully 1 of them or the committee does enough to supplant the loss. It's highly doubtful as Perriman had the potential to be the guy in the passing game while it's highly unlikely that either of those 2 are capable of that.
Other than that, hope Steve Smith comes back and has 1 more renaissance year.
2 minutes ago, January J said:Or maybe if joe Is throwing to him all year he goes 68 Out of 90 in the second half of the season after they Start meshing and that percentage gets Bumped up a bit. schaub Throws nothing But duck farts And i Wouldnt Automatically hold his Accuracy Against aiken. Plus he made some big catches In clutch moments which is what really counts. Anyway were gettin a little off subject. Back to perriman And the buzz Kill.
Maybe if Joe was throwing, he throw the ball to a different receiver or maybe the drop rate is even greater. We can play the what if game all day.
Prisoner of the moment catches are what leads to overpaying for mediocre talents.
4 minutes ago, Virginia 55 said:I thought this was a knee jerk reaction from our front office anyway. (selecting Perriman)
This pick isn't going to pan out either way.
I hope he has a speedy recovery. (again) smh.
I saw what you did there.
1 minute ago, Gordo52 said:Welp. Tragic for Perriman, sucks for us. Don't care if it's not directly related, should've never drafted someone that high who's had Osgood-Schlatter disease...
Hope he comes back strong but not counting on it. His best attribute coming out was his speed and with 2 blown knees, It would be a miracle if he ever runs the same again. He was raw when we drafted him and has missed way too much time/experience to ever live up to 26.
Didn't feel good about WR's coming in, definitely don't now. Lost plenty of potential upside with Perriman. Luckily this year we have Wallace who can at least stretch the field. Who knows with Moore yet. Smith is 37 coming off major injury. Aiken was solid last season but nothing special. NEED someone opposite Smith to step up, or we're screwed. Gonna be another year Joe won't have true outside weapons. We at least tried with Perriman but it's beyond ridiculous how long we've negleted the position.
Hope Trestman adjusts our offense to make us even heavier on TEs & running the ball.
LOL - that was legitimately funny to me.
Just now, Sami84 said:meh, the writing is on the wall..i don't know any player who has a start to a career like this over 2 seasons who ends up amounting to anything.
Jeremy Maclin
1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:That's not necessarily true in the slightest. ACL's are heavily researched and with how often they happen, surgery is way ahead and very advanced.
PCL's are probably 10-15 years behind PCL's in terms of research and surgery are concerned.
I have no idea if this is true or not, but cite evidence if youre going to make a claim like this please
6 minutes ago, jimmypowder said:Yeah I'd be shocked if Perriman plays a full season in the NFL . 16 straight games . Ain't gonna happen .
Word is the injury was non-contact too .
This isn't a big deal since this is how the injury typically happens but I agree with the other comment. Two significant knee injuries in two years before the practices even get serious.
3 minutes ago, ravensdan said:The kid was super raw coming out and needed time to develop. Last years injuries stunted that growth.if he had played all last year, which woukd have been limited snaps, then maybe he could be ready to step into a bigger role now. As it turned out he wouldn't have been ready for that due to being so far behind.
He would have been much better than Torrey Smith and he wasn't playing limited snaps if he was healthy. Coaches and FO were gift wrapping him the starting job.
5 minutes ago, January J said:Highly doubtful Knowing our luck. The trash Known as aiken? I know we Didnt have much in the stable last year but he Was our leading receiver and barely missed 1000 yards..and that was playing half the season with schaub, clausen And mallet.
He had 83 targets in those games (50 catches). Pro-rate that out for the other half of the season and he would have gotten an absurd 166 at a catch rate of about 60%.
You throw anyone the ball enough.....
13 minutes ago, ravensdan said:What? So the loss of Perriman changes your opinion that drastically? Why? I only expected him to be a third wr. Make some big plays. He was essentially a raw rookie who fell way behind. Doesn't change my opinion on the wr core. It was ok before. It's ok now.
When your other options are
Steve Smith coming off an achilles tear at 37
Kamar Aiken
And Mike Wallace who really hasn't done anything great since 2011
Yea, I agree with him. Hopefully Moore and Wallace step up, but im not holding out much hope.
28 minutes ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:Yep it stinks.... Man you got to feel for the guy he sure has had a rough start to his NFL career for sure.
His career is basically over. I'm done holding out hope for this guy. Too painful. We can never have good receivers.
11 minutes ago, CalvinSmoke said:I don't think so man... The guys from each draft that grow to be something are rarely the top performers at the combine. Prove me wrong though, I'm honestly curious to see if I'm looking at this the wrong way.
I feel like there was a study for this that I read at some point...let me see if i can go back and find it.
2 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:oh, I know that's why you didn't like him and if you only based in on his previous year, then why would he have been taken. That being said, he had awful qb play in San Francisco and his ability was much better than what was being displayed and he had previously shown that. He proved it in Oakland last year.
Yeah but the qb play wasnt the issue. Crab just wasnt getting snaps from harbs which speaks to a much more deeply rooted issue
scheme is such a huge factor and idk why more players dont consider when deciding to change teams
1 minute ago, CalvinSmoke said:It's a way to separate great players from great players with measurables. But when teams take the measurable, and ignore bad film you get draft busts (it's rarely that simple but you get where I'm going)
Every elite player doesn't have elite measurables. There are exceptions to everything, but if you can't get with that than we won't agree on much here
Most of the elite players in the nfl have elite measurables. The ones that dont are usually exceptions.
The general consensus is that you shoulf take the athlete over the better player because of upside ie you can teach football but elite measurables.
5 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:lol
Thats what happen when you do this on mobile after waking up. Def read that wrong and fixed it
2 hours ago, CalvinSmoke said:I don't think there's any measurable that translates to success. You can either play or you can't.
Well despite this not being true and an antiquated notion at that
then why does the nfl even have the combine
1 hour ago, RavensFanMania said:reallly love the @Tru11 Crabtree pick. I took him last year in the 18th round and distinctly remember @Sizzlebshu not liking the pick at all. Just shows that as much as he thinks he is always right, he is far from that.
Didnt like crabtree cause he gave up in san fran last yr and injuries had sapped him. Didnt think he would recover
3 hours ago, harfordravenfan said:Steve Smith probably disagrees with this ?
Exception, not the rule
59 minutes ago, -Truth- said:*Drafts T.Y. Hilton*
Already proven vs a guy who is completely unproven.
Let me give you a better comparison that actually fits the context since you feel like taking it out of context.
I drafted Russell Wilson (a proven QB for a number of years who was an exception to the small qb = bust rule) while you took a shot on and drafted Johnny Manziel (during his rookie yr of course)
Anyway, now that I settled that, I suggest you pop over to reddit and check out the master's dissertation on there on the NFL draft and wide receivers.
Edit: Here I'll even link you: https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/4kv17n/i_did_my_masters_dissertation_on_the_nfl_draft/
Reference: There is no significant difference between someone running a 4.6 40 yard dash compared to the fastest timed athletes. However 4.6 appears to be the floor for wide receiver production.
Just now, ravensdan said:I definitely rate Coleman over treadwell and that's a good choice here.
I don't. Speed isn' that important in the nfl where size actually is. There is no appreciable difference in success correlation between a wideout runs 4.6 and one who runs 4.3
Only target I was real upset to miss on was Jaye Howard. Really wanted him and thought he'd go under the radar a bit longer, but oh well.
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Yea Im so convinced that you watched tape. Pick a lane brah.