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Along with concerns about him being physically up to talent level of the NFL Scooby also has a really substantial injury history.

I don't mean to single you out but this is a mentality that I want to talk about. Why do you feel that way? What have the Ravens done in the draft in the Harbaugh era that inspires all this confidence. That first year was great, taking home a franchise QB and star running back one and two is huge but was that a tremendous scouting success? I'll give you Ray Rice but we traded back to the end of the 1st round and had to trade back up to the 17 spot to pick Flacco. If our FO had believed that Flacco could be what he has become that was incredibly stupid! You're going to risk a franchise changing QB for the tiny value of some extra picks. Crazy. Every year since 2008 we've been middling to bad with our draft classes. Isn't 8 years of poor production enough to make a change. It's a Ravens motto to never pay for past production but isn't that exactly what we've been doing with this front office for the past 5 years? I'm being serious. Can someone here defend the past half decade of Ravens drafts? Those questions are why I don't just go "In Ozzie We Trust" when I see a clearly superior talent, and yes Spence is a far better prospect than Correa, passed on for nebulous reasons. If they came out and said that they liked Spence better on tape but think that they have a better chance of Correa working out due to off field stuff or coachability fine, I'd disagree with that but fine. They say "he was higher on our board" which if true, and based off of past play, is incredibly discouraging. That kind of poor player assessment tanks franchises. And when you look at the way we've been bleeding out talent in the past 5 years it seems like bad talent assessment may in fact be the problem.

Man this draft was night and day. After a top 3 rounds of taking safe picks and overdrafting we come back with a day 3 filled with great value, home run hitters. High potential guys like Keenan Reynolds and Canady are what the 6th round was made for. Judon is probably the best value of the whole draft, if Jaylon Smith and Myles Jack don't pan out due to injury. Late 4th RB in Dixon who has the chance to compete as our #1. I really hate the Chris Moore pick and don't know too much about Alex Lewis but otherwise a pretty great day.

Overdrafting a dude who would have been there in the 6th. He would have been there that late because he's a not so fast speed threat that can do nothing but run 9s and drop footballs. That Ravens belief that their coaching staff can consistently craft every raw player into a starter is going to bite us again. If not for Flacco this team wouldn't have gone above 4-12 any season after the superbowl.

I'm not saying you're right, but IF you were right how is one trait enough to damn the man? Do you know what he does? Daily? Wow. Are you actually suggesting that we ignore the draft when assessing our general manager? That's 70% of the job. I'm glad to see that there is a consensus otherwise. We need star players and acquired 2 starting caliber guys with limited upside. That's a poor haul for the best draft position of the decade.

Noah Spence

So now we get to regret not getting Tunsil AND not getting Noah Spence for the next decade. Ozzie is done y'all. Hasn't had a good draft since 08' and I'd say 8 years of sub standard player acquisition is enough to call it a day.

My Red Stars: Laquon Treadwell, Tyler Boyd, Noah Spence, Joey Bosa My Black Dot: Leonard Floyd, Eli Apple, Will Fuller, Christian Hackenberg

Garret's draft is believable and would be a pretty big success for the Ravens if it came to be. Lots of need addressed and high upside guys picked up here. Mink's draft is bad in about every way it could be. It other words it is very much like everything else to spring from Ryan Mink's mind. Just terrible.

Tyler Boyd, Noah Spence, William Jackson III, Cyrus Jones, Yannick Ngakoue = Steals Leonard Floyd, Eli Apple, Will Fuller, Michael Thomas = Busts Ronnie Stanley, Deforrest Buckner, Reggie Ragland = Alright Starters who will get nowhere near living up to draft hype

^^Do you have any opinions on Leonte Carroo? People I respect have said good things but I haven't seen any of him yet. The Ravens usually wait until draft day to squash my hopes of a good WR early in the draft. Mike Wallace is the death knell for that idea, though knowing this FO that weren't going to happen anyway. Damn shame as Treadwell will be the last time we have any chance at a WR of his caliber for the next decade at least. The worst part about all of it isn't that we're overpaying or even that Wallace likely won't produce, it's that I still really hate this guy from his time with the Steelers and have been really enjoying his sputtering out of the league. Now I don't even have that.

The extension is two decades shorter than I'd like it to be but I suppose this will do for now. Love you Joe.

What are you talking about? Some routes are occasionally rounded but Treadwell has the best foot work in the class. Add that he consistently gained separation at the highest level of college competition to the fact he is still only 20 and I think he would easily be the best WR the Ravens have ever had.

Also that was a garbage 40. I thought DV suspects weren't invited to the combine?

To me, Jack is a MLB and I view that as the most fungible posistion in the modern NFL. The difference between having a Luke Keuchley or having a Malcolm Smith isn't the difference in having a Von Miller vs a Courtney Upshaw, a Kamar Aiken vs an AJ Green, or a Kendrick Lewis vs a Eric Weddle.