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    I thought the players had started warming up to Hailey?

    I didn't think the steelers would and I was wondering why that would even be a rumor.

    Last I heard, Ben was really the one that didn't get along with him. And the QBs opinion goes a long way.

    I wouldn't be opposed to the idea though. I would like to see what he could do with Rice and Pierce.

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    Rumor has it that the Ravens are looking at Wilson for their running backs coach opening. Would he really take a lateral step in the division?

    I doubt the steelers would allow that to happen. Their front office likes him a lot. They wouldn't block a promotion to OC, but they would defiantly block a lateral move like that. I think they want somebody on staff to take over incase there is mutiny on Haley.

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    Our game plans weren't the reason the offense was bad. The offensive line was the reason the offense was bad.

    Maybe Caldwell knew he was in our plans and left him be? Maybe they didn't work well together? Lot of potential reasons.

    Ok, then why not try going to a quick passing game to try and get the ball out quick?!? Nope, let's just keep running 9 routes and hope our oline can protect. This is what I'm talking about. Inability to see the problem is a cardinal sin.
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    Playbooks can change, it has changed since Cam left, and Hostler can change it more.

    I think Hostler is a west coast kind of guy. He worked under Mike Nolan, who is part of the Billick coaching tree. Just based off that, I would think west coast. I don't know for sure, though.

    I get that, but we don't know enough about Hostler. The rumor is that Cam wouldn't listen to Hostler's suggestions, but Caldwell did, and our passing game improved when there was protection.

    Torrey hasn't improved? Sorry, that's incorrect. A lot of our WRs have actually improved, even Deonte Thompson. Even Derrick Mason is on record as saying Hostler is a good coach and he helped him learn a lot.

    Torrey still can't catch with his hands consistently, get off press coverage, use his speed in and out of his breaks, or track the ball. But other then that, yeah, he's come a long way. Deonte Thompson?!? Why in the world did you even bring him up? He has what 20 career snaps at WR?!? He has shown absolutely nothing and that's being generous. And yes, he has had injuries, but he also has been healthy and not made it to the field outside of preseason.

    And what does Derrick Masons opinion of him have to do with anything. Do you honestly think he would say that Hostler was inept? He gave the typical "company line".

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    Never said he would do a better job here. Insufficient data. And yes, what we have is a bit better than what they had in 2007. Play calling and scheme this year was mostly good, aside from a few blunders.

    I understand the want to get a fresh face, but Hostler might not be as bad as some think.

    Yeah, maybe. Like I said above, insufficient data to judge Hostler.

    Guys I know it's the popular thing to bash Hostler but you should probably be reasonable and look at all of the facts. Look deeper than the surface, I know you can do it.

    My point is just because he is here and knows the players, doesn't make him qualified to run the offense. The position he has coached for the last 6 years has been the least productive group on our roster. The players lack the fundamental skills of an NFL WR. And none of them have improved on these things. That's not lack of talent, it's called poor coaching. It's not a coincidence that our 2 best WRs were free agent acquisitions who learned these skills before coming here.

    I've been critical of Hostler for 3 years now. I'm not one of these kids that reads a post about him being bad, and then start ranting about it. I wanted this guy fired with Cam long ago. And now we're talking about promoting him?!?

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    Starting to think Hostler was also a victim of poor personnel. San Fran had a second worst 36 fumbles and a third worst -12 turnover margin. They had four quarterbacks play that year: Dilfer, Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, and Chris Weinke. So, they had little talent or continuity at QB. The QBs were sacked a whopping 55 times combined, and Gore only averaged 4.1 yards a carry. From that, one can infer that the offensive line was an issue. His leading receiver was Frank Gore, who had 53 for 436. Vernon Davis had 52 for 509. Then they had this no name WR named Arnaz Battle who had 50 for 600 and an over the hill Darrel Jackson who had 46 for 497. That was Jackson's second last season, and that was one of just two seasons in which Battle met or surpasses 50 catches and 600 yards.

    Hmmm... bad offensive line... bad offense... No receivers... where have I seen this before?

    Disclaimer: I am not saying Jim Hostler is good. I am only saying that in his only year as an OC, he had jack [profanity deleted] to work with. He literally had nothing to work with except for Davis and Gore.

    Maybe we fans should actually look deeper than the surface before we make judgments. Nothing is ever as simple as it seems.

    http://www.nfl.com/teams/sanfrancisco49ers/statistics?season=2007&team=SF&seasonType=

    So what in there makes you think he would do a better job here? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but what we have isn't much better then what San Fran had. He also had a hand in the play calling and offensive design this year... And we were terrible. I just don't see any change there. It would be one thing if we lit it up this year, but we didn't. It's time for a fresh face and new ideas. With so much of the old staff gone, it's time to finish the job!!!!
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    Has anyone considered James Franklin from Vandy? He is a hot name at the college level, but he is a fantastic coach.

    Under his coaching as an OC, the Terps won 10 games under Friedgen. A feat that is severely under appreciated. He made Danny Obrien look like a pro QB, but he then killed his stock by transferring to Wisconsin.

    Friedgen told Franklin that he wasn't leaving, and was going to be at UMD for the forseeable future, so Franklin took the Vandy job and made them relevant for the first time in my lifetime.

    Bottom line, he is a phenomenal offensive mind and could be just what we need to get this offense turned around. The only real question would be is he willing to leave Vandy for an OC job in the NFL...

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