I'm from an a generation where I got spanked. I got the belt when I was really bad, never to the extent of what AP did, but I think the whole society is getting too soft. I mean, parents bargain with their children. That just seems crazy to me. When I was told no, I didn't ask again. I guess that goes back to the physical discipline. But aside from teaching me to do the right thing, it also taught me about respect. Something that's almost completely wiped out today. Having said that, I really think this "uphold the shield" is BS. When you start implementing this zero tolerance policy does that mean they are going to start banning players for life? I mean, no man should hit their woman, or make their child bleed, (again, goes back to discipline and self control) but if we start kicking all of these guys out of the league, how much talent would be left? These guys aren't priests, they are football players. A lot of these guys come from very unstable situations in their youth. To expect them to completely change everything about themselves and who they are is futile. If they do something you don't agree with, don't cheer for them, or buy their jersey, or something. I don't know, I guess I'm ranting.