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8 minutes ago, mc_red23 said:

That'd be some start to the draft for the Jags. Ramsey & Jack, wow!

I'd be extremely jealous haha

Edit: Unless Myles Jack's knee is as bad as teams seem to think it is. 

Browns: Andrew Billings, DL, Baylor

Titans: Noah Spence, OLB/DE, Eastern Kentucky

Cowboys: Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson

Chargers: T.J. Green, FS/CB, Clemson

Ravens: Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson

Chiefs: Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama

Jags: Myles Jack, LB, UCLA

59 minutes ago, SUGGStobeDUMED said:

Agreed. But with how many injuries lately they may decide to keep 4 again. It may just be wishful thinking cause I just like Taliaferro a lot and wanna see him on the roster and healthy.

I think 4 is a possibility, but with the large group of receivers we have I think 3 is more likely. My guess is that Taliaferro is probably the favorite to win that 3rd spot. Never know if they'll add a rookie to the mix though, and if it's a guy with ST/return ability, then I could see them keeping 4. 

I hope he gets back on track here!

Cut West. Keep the rest.

Gotta think Taliaferro, West, and Richardson are all fighting for one spot. I think Forsett and Allen are locks while Taliaferro, West, and Richardson all play really similarly.

My worst draft nightmares would be Stanley (See him as a Joeckel-type), Ragland (Think he is a two-down player), and Elliott (Not at 6 at least) or Henry (Don't see him being successful in the NFL). I like Buckner, but I think taking him at 6 is not ideal. 

Ravens never get a good grade in Free Agency. And I think that is a good thing.

I feel like if Bosa was using party drugs it would be really easy to figure out. These teams go deep into players' pasts with investigators and stuff. It'll be interesting to see what happens with him. 

2 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

John Urschel, who played very well in a few games as a starter, including a playoff game.  He's not really a question mark either with 10 starts already under his belt due to injury and two years in the system.  It's not really possible to have high end backups at many positions.  We have worse depth in so many positions that investing in a guard would just be a bad decision.  It's not like he isn't smart enough to learn good technique and the playbook in two years, and he definitely has the size.

It seems like there's always someone who steps up on the OL when a player leaves and it works out most of the time (KO, Wagner) but not all the time (Gradkowski). 

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

Man, I've given up on that 3rd round comp atm. 

I think the value matters. I wouldn't mind giving it up for a guy like Mike Neal to improve the pass rush. I'd target Louis Vasquez if we wanted a guard though- Cap Casualty and decent player last year. 

1 minute ago, hn68wb4 said:

I'm not saying we should shell out for an immediate veteran starter, but who do we have behind Jensen if he doesn't work out? Just somebody that isn't a total question mark. We've already seen before what happens with question marks along the line and injuries start popping up, I think it's reasonable to not want to be fully blind on our backups and have to rely on question marks with the game on the line.

I think Urschel would be a fine LG. Also, the FO seemed to value Leon Brown at the guard position over Robert Myers, who got drafted and was easily let go. If you throw in a 3rd/4th round pick you have a decent enough competition to find someone likely serviceable. 

If we sign another UFA as opposed to a Cap Casualty we'll lose what is probably going to be a 3rd Round Comp pick for KO.

Not that I am complaining or anything but I am kinda curious why the Ravens went after Mike Wallace when they could have gotten Chris Givens for less money and gotten a player with some experience in the system. I think that they are somewhat similar players. 

So my best guess is that the opening roster carries 3 Tight Ends.
53 Man: Williams (lock), Watson (lock), and Waller (valuable ST performer).
SUS: Boyle (10 games)
PUP: Gillmore (6-10 games)
CUT: Ford, Reuland, Spears, Pitta.

I'm surprised we never heard any injury concerns about KO during the whole FA process. Big fan of KO and wish him success in OAK, but he hasn't played a full season since he was a rookie and even when he played 14 games in 2014 he had those lingering back issues that seemed to affect his play. 

13 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Why do you guys think cut players have any indication of who the Ravens or another team select with their top-10 pick? I don't think it has anything to do with the price of tea in China. 

I guess to defend what I said earlier. I wasn't implying that the Chargers cut Donald Butler because they plan on taking Myles Jack (No sane GM would do that) but you have to think that with that player gone, the Chargers may value the LB position (in FA and/or the draft) higher than they would had they not cut Donald Butler. 

Have to think the Chargers releasing Donald Butler makes Jack an option for them. 

Just now, Cillmatic said:

I think Myles Jack needs to be the pick. A fast coverage excelling MLB who can play Slot is pretty appealing.

But would we really draft a player that would either put Mosley on the bench for passing downs or replace the existing slot players (Webb, Elam, Brooks) on the field in those situation. 

I don't think it's a top priority to replace Canty or Smith. There's committees at both those spots (DE- Urban, Guy, KLM) (ILB- Orr, Brown, McClellan) that have shown some good stuff on tape. 

Yeah I wouldn't want to get Arian Foster. He's had health and effectiveness issues recently. 

1 minute ago, ALI624 said:

Just wondering are there any LTs that we can sign considering we are offering 10 million or so to KO? Just a thought.

Jermon Bushrod and William Beatty have both been cut, neither seems to be a remarkable option, but they wouldn't lose a Comp. Pick. Other than that Russell Okung (Too Much money) and Donald Penn (old) are options that would count against comp picks. 

I think most worst case scenarios would involve Cleveland taking (or trading down for someone to take) a non-QB, which seems unlikely. I think this draft is deep, but there aren't going to be any can't miss prospects. At this point, I would consider the top guys to be Ramsey and Tunsil and I am assuming that neither of these guys is going to be there at 6. I think Tunsil is going to an option for TEN, SD or JAX while Ramsey is an option for TEN, CLE, SD, DAL or JAX. I'm putting Tunsil and Ramsey at 1/2 because they fit every scheme and are extremely unlikely to fall. 

So far the draft looks like this: 

TEN- Laremy Tunsil

CLE- Jalen Ramsey

SD on the clock

I would put the next tier for Buckner, Myles Jack, Ronnie Stanley and Joey Bosa. SD is likely going to be considering Buckner, Stanley and Jack. So I'm going under 3 separate situations. 

Scenario 1: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Buckner; 

Scenario 2: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Stanley; 

Scenario 3: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; 

DAL on the clock

I think DAL would probably have Ramsey. Jack and Bosa high and in that order.

Scenario 1: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Buckner; DAL- Jack

Scenario 2: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Stanley; DAL- Jack

Scenario 3: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; DAL- Bosa

JAX on the clock

JAX priority order probably mirrors so in Scenario 1 and 2, they take Bosa. This leaves JAX at the short end of the stick with Buckner and Stanley probably not high on their list (JAX has invested a decent amount of money/draft picks at OT (Joeckel and Parnell) and interior DL (Marks, Odrick, and Miller). I would see JAX desperately trying to trade out here for someone going for Buckner or Stanley- splitting possibilities again. Leaving BAL in 4 worst case scenarios. 

1: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Buckner; DAL- Jack; JAX- Bosa

2: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Stanley; DAL- Jack; JAX- Bosa

3: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; DAL- Bosa; ???- Stanley

4. TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; DAL- Bosa; ???- Buckner

So in this case the Ravens most likely options are: (1) Taking Stanley, (2) Trading Down, (3) Taking Buckner. Trading down in this scenario would not be likely because SF sitting behind the Ravens is not likely to draft a OT or a DE/DT. So this depends on if KO resigns or not. If he does then Ravens likely take Buckner and if he doesn't then the Ravens likely take Stanley. 

Looks like Darian Thompson needs to improve his 40 at his pro day or else he'll be in rounds 3-4. 

Just now, verified said:

hes a bust no need to resign him. Did nothing his whole time here, another bust for ozzie hes been good at drafting those lately smh

He played his role well. He stopped the run and held the edge. Would have been nice to have him get 10 or so sacks a season, but thats just not his game. 

I think we just signed Trent Richardson

Looks like Hue Jackson's comments about needing a QB with large hands may stop them from taking Goff and his tiny hands with the second pick. Looks like it's either going to be Wentz, Lynch or a non-QB at 2. This is a bummer because the Browns are a wild-card and could snag pretty much any of the top prospects (Tunsil, Bosa, Ramsey, Jack, Buckner). It's hard to tell what they could be doing with their new FO. I think they would try to trade down, but I don't think anybody is looking to go up in this draft for anyone this year.