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I think it'd be irresponsible not to double up if we get the chance. We have Dumervil (old), Suggs (old and injured) and Zadarius Smith (unproven) next year. Bosa is a great pick and would probably get moved around since he gets good pressure on the inside, he could play 5 or even 3 technique on passing downs at a high level. Then later if we could pick up a pure edge rusher like Devonte Fields or Kyler Fackrell in the 3rd to 5th, that'd make the pass rush better and give a chance to develop some young guys.

Nothing against Renner, but the facts that (A) he's only played decently well against 3rd stringers in the preseason and ( he's worked out for a couple teams and hasn't been signed by any of them make a good argument to look at Mallett and Clausen more. Mallett is signed for next season too and if he gets his act together, he could be a good backup. I don't think we should spend a draft pick on a backup QB when there are a lot of other needs on the team.

Goff doesn't have half as much hype as RGIII. I don't think we could get more than an extra 2nd round pick by moving down to let a team get him, especially the Bears considering how good Cutler has been this year. I don't think any team is dumb enough to move up to the top 5 for a QB this year.

I'd be surprised if Josh Gordon came back next season. The league still hasn't reinstated Justin Blackmon. I know that Gordon technically is eligible to return in 2016, I just don't see Goodell letting it happen so soon. Gordon may be out of the league for good.

Jimmy Clausen just got waived, he's a Trestman guy, wouldn't be surprised to see him end up here.

I could see a QB coming into the draft if its a best player available later in the draft. I think out of Goff, Lynch, Cook, Hackenburg Cardale Jones or Wentz maybe one slides down to the 4th where I could see us biting. This is all about developing a back up though, we aren't looking for a franchise QB at this point.

I don't really think that we could get a good offer for Dumervil. I'd keep him around because I think him and Bosa do different things. Bosa thrives more if you move him around the line, but Dumervil is a speed rusher off the edge. If we draft Bosa, I still see us picking up a speed rusher in the other rounds.

I see Bosa, if we draft him playing OLB in the base set or 5 technique. Then bumping in on longer passing downs. So I would see alignments like this if we drafted him: Suggs-Bosa-Williams-Jernigan-Dumervil or Suggs-Urban-Williams-Jernigan-Bosa. Depending on how we feel about Urban after this year. I could also see a 4 man front like: Suggs-Bosa-Jernigan-Dumervil. A 3 man dime rush would likely bump Suggs or Dumervil off the field if we drafted Bosa: Suggs-Jernigan-Bosa Either way this still helps Dumervil, he was always better coming in fresh for a pass rush.

I really do need to watch some more of the OL in this class. I have been watching mostly WR, Pass Rushers, and DBs this year. OL evaluation has never been my strong suit in the past though. Couple years ago, I full-heartedly believed that Luke Joeckel was the next Joe Thomas.

I still currently think Stanley is a top 10 pick because he is so athletic and is the best pure pass-blocker in the draft class this year. It's a bit more of a personal thing. I thought he lost his match up against Lawson (Clemson) and got pushed around a little bit too much. I'll have a stronger opinion of his play when I can watch the Michigan State game (I think his match up against Shilique Calhoun will be really telling). I haven't watched a ton of Stanley to be completely honest though, so I'm definitely open to your analysis of him. It just seems to me like this really athletic tackles have had some problems recently with guys like Fisher, Joeckel, Matthews, Kalil and Greg Robinson struggling so much. I know most analysts are not really high on his run blocking, but I want to know what sets Stanley apart from those guys. I'd definitely appreciate if you could tell me.

My order of preference of the listed guys would be 1. Vernon Hargreaves III; 2. Joey Bosa; 3. Laremy Tunsil; 4. Jalen Ramsey; 5. Ronnie Stanley. Honestly I would take Robert Nkemdiche over Ronnie Stanley, I've actually fallen off the Ronnie Stanley bandwagon recently.

Honestly I would love to have seen Ogbah fall to our 2nd pick, and if some Offensive Linemen rise in the draft I could see that happening. But on this I could seen Vonn Bell or even Corey Coleman (Baylor WR who has some Kendall Wright/Phillip Dorsett to his game). I don't see us going 1-2 on Corners though. I think Nassib is going to be there in the 3rd Round (Combine will probably hurt his stock) if we can't get a pass rusher sooner. I don't think we're spending higher than a 4th round pick on an OL unless we grab Stanley or Tunsil, because I think K.O. walks and Urschel takes over the LG spot, and I think everybody would be fine with that.

I think most people are right that Number 2 is high for Jalen Ramsey. I just really think San Diego is a good fit for Ramsey and I do not think that San Diego ends up at 2. I'm pretty intrigued by Ramsey because he's like an opposite Terrence Brooks (Ramsey started at a nickel corner/safety role and got moved outside, while Brooks started outside and got moved to a nickel corner/safety role). I personally think Ramsey is best suited for a nickel corner/safety role in the NFL like a Tyrann Mathieu or Eric Weddle (or kinda like what the Ravens do with Matt Elam and Terrence Brooks when all the corners get injured). Most people are also right that 7 is a decently long fall for Nkemdiche. My personal thinking behind putting Tunsil at 4 is that if the Titans want to take the next step as a franchise, they need to do it behind Mariota, and they can't do that with Poutasi or Byron Bell playing right tackle. Byron Bell got cut for Michael Oher. I'm really interested in seeing what happens with Nkemdiche because he has the explosion and athleticism of an edge rusher with the body of a tackle. PurpleCity might be on to something linking him to Detroit, they could definitely use him, especially if Ngata walks. Thanks for all the feedback guys, I love that there's such a good draft community on here. I love getting called out on stuff.

The problem is that though he is a good football player, he hasn't shown consistently he can hold the edge. He is more of an interior penetrator than an edge rusher. You keep saying how explosive he is and how he pursues the runners in all situations and blows through blockers in all situations. I have not seen that on any of the tape. I have yet to see tape of Joey Bosa chasing down runners or getting around the edge fast enough to bring down mobile quarterbacks, and that is not a knock on him, he's just not that kind of player. He is a great player, but he isn't a Jadeveon Clowney edge defender drawing multiple blockers every play. I am not even alone in thinking this. Notice how every Bosa comparison is to a player that played in a 3-5, and was not overly successful-Jared Allen (Bears switched to a 3-4, traded Allen to the Panthers even though they had him cheap), Mario Williams (Texas switched to a 3-4, Williams was out of place and left in FA to go to the Bills), Chris Long (was a 3-4 5-technique in college, had to shed weight to play strongside end in St. Louis).

I've watched the Penn State, Rutgers, and Indiana tape of him (all 2015 games) and I just have not seen a lot of agility from him, almost all of the sacks he has gotten this year have been either through the A gap or the B gap. I'll admit 3 games might not be enough to get a full picture, but it is enough to point out a trend like that. He drops into coverage occasionally for OSU, but when he does he seems big and slow. I'll obviously keep my eyes on him because he will make an impact in the league, but I think spending a top 10 pick on him when he does not really fit the scheme is risky. I would not be mad if the Ravens drafted him by any means because we have good history with similar players that were interior defenders that transitioned to edge defenders (I'm thinking of Pernell McPhee and Jarrett Johnson), but he would not make as great of an initial impact as he would as a strong side end on a team like the Jaguars or Buccaneers where he would only have to focus on doing the things he already does well.

My Thoughts on Bosa: Strengths: Strong at the point of attack. Anchors well against the run. Wins with power moves, but also throws in swim/spin moves. Gains good pressure by getting inside. Versatile enough to play a couple different positions along the line, best fit as a stronside end in a 4-3 or a 5-Technique in a 3-4 if he can add about 15-20 pounds of muscle. High motor player, who is a leader on a competitive team. Weaknesses: Not a fit as a 3-4 OLB Lacks speed to play on the weak-side where he would have to chase down plays. Lacks the athleticism to drop into coverage. Comparison: Michael Bennett, DE, Seahawks: Like Bennett, Bosa wins predominantly with power but has a good arsenal of pass rush moves. Bosa would most likely thrive in a system that would allow him to line up in a couple different gaps. Bosa might be a bit more lean than Bennett, but at this point their style of play lines up pretty well.

The draft is weak at receiver and even weaker at pass rusher. I definitely do not think that there are any players worth tanking for in order to get a prime draft pick. Bosa is by far the best pass rusher, but since he generates most of the pressure he gets from the inside, he is more of a 4-3 end than a 3-4 outside linebacker. Most of the top receivers are slot guys, which is not really a top pick-worthy position.

No way to cut Monroe, we already have so much dead money. It would be so dumb. Please say we learned something from this year.

Wish we still had Smith and Boldin... SF is sooooooo good

Tate gets 7 million next year and 8 the year after. If we wouldn't give 9 to Torrey Smith, we wouldn't give 7/8 million to Tate.

Its Week 5, there's no decent WRs we could afford. If there was a good WR with a low Cap number, what kind of idiot team would trade them for anything less than a Round 4 pick?

I wish he was playing.

I'd be fine with 8-8 at this point.

It grades on every single snap that the player takes. So even if they give up a big play or have a big play, that only affects so much. So if Gillmore had 2 touchdowns on 60 snaps, that does not mean the extra 58 snaps were at a + level. He could have missed blocks or failed to get open a couple times. Jimmy Smith had a few + coverages despite giving up more of them and having some penalties.

Purple Dawg 96 .... Because Matt Schaub is totally going to turn the ball over less