20306cab

1 hour ago, sizzlingdoom said:

1 hour ago, 20306cab said:

Jernigan was nothing special, but he's definitely better than these other guys they keep mentioning. Davis, Henry, Kaufusi and Urban, are you kidding me. All these guys together have done nothing. They already lost their best DE, in Guy. Orr is gone. Suggs is hanging on. Judon and Smith. Really? Correa? Sheesh. You could have six All Pros in the secondary, and they still won't be able to cover everyone for six seconds. This defense has not improved. The offense is a disaster. But, hey, everyone keep drinking the purple Kool Aid.

The defense has not improved??????LOL, Really?

DUH! YEAH!

Jernigan was nothing special, but he's definitely better than these other guys they keep mentioning. Davis, Henry, Kaufusi and Urban, are you kidding me. All these guys together have done nothing. They already lost their best DE, in Guy. Orr is gone. Suggs is hanging on. Judon and Smith. Really? Correa? Sheesh. You could have six All Pros in the secondary, and they still won't be able to cover everyone for six seconds. This defense has not improved. The offense is a disaster. But, hey, everyone keep drinking the purple Kool Aid.

Davis is an awesome 1Bman. Williams is an awesome coach. And who the heck is Myron Medcalf?

"Arians said he was “shocked by the money.” Says it all.

Yea, probably thought it was a bargain, considering HIS other safety is making $2.5million more this year.

18 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

20 hours ago, Bruce_Almty said:

Ray Lewis lead the Ravens to a Super Bowl triumph, Joe Flacco was later handed the reigns.

LMAO!  Ray Ray was a shell of his former self and on his "last ride". To be frank that's what he did, came along for the ride. 

Ray may not have been as great a player then, after 17 years, but he was one of the greatest players and leaders of all time. It's pretty easy to tell who was coming along for the ride. It was Pathetic Joe and Self Righteous John. See how awful they've been since he left. Actually PJ was awful WHILE Ray was here, as well.

  1 hour ago, drillem said:

All we need now is a good quarterback. And going by ship for that game in GB is similar to staying in Calif for a week between games a few years back. We all saw how that went. You get in a plane, you get there quick. You get on a ship and you just float for days. Who is making these decisions?

Well... sorry to have to break it to you, but...

 

1.) we already have a good QB - one that played rather poorly at stretches of last season - but not a bad QB by any measure;

2.) I'm afraid you've been fooled. That ship-thing was an April's fool prank.

Sorry to break it to YOU! No, the Ravens do NOT have a good QB. PJ's living quite famously off a wing and a prayer heave, botched by the safety. A lifetime QB rating of 84% for a ten year starter is AWFUL! You can see how bad Pathetic Joe and Self Righteous John have been since Lewis retired. You can make every excuse in the book you want for these two, but it doesn't change the facts.

I guess Jefferson and Jensen are in on it. By the way, it's WeMbley, not Webley Stadium, or is that part of the joke also?

8 hours ago, jdynamite said:

In response to harbaugh, all we can say is show us the creativity please! 

Last offseason, everyone was pumped about the talent at TE ( this is before even knowing Pitta would be healthy and playing ) too. 

Tressman talked about getting creative but based on what occurred on the field that essentially meant we are going to throw TE screens to the slowest TEs Gilmore and Pitta gain 2-yards and call it a day. 

 

 

Actually, they would call it a day after the first quarter.  Seven times with a 7 or 10-0 lead in the first quarter, and never scored more than 23 points in any of those games.  That was the loss to the Giants. This is the worst roster the Ravens have had on offense, going into the draft, in quite sometime.  Unless PJ picks up his game, (and why would anything be any different after10 years) NOTHING creative will EVER happen. 

2 hours ago, KidNme said:

Blaming our entire season on Joe or how much he's paid isn't the answer. I don't like that a guy makes a gazillion dollars for playing a game but that's what Pro NFL players get paid, it is what it is.  Having said that, he did take us to 2 SB's and as someone else mentioned, out played Brady more than once so it's not all on him.
 

Two SB's?  2012 and ? 

Lower the prices of beer at the stadium - it is going to be a long season.

THAT ain't gonna happen. We're ALL payin' for Pathetic Joe.

Not going to happen. Ravens can't afford great players anymore. Bad drafts, bad contracts, and bad coaches. It took John 5 years with Ray to make the SB and it will take 5 years without Ray to get fired.

BINGO!

Putting Brady and Pathetic Joe in the same sentence, is absolute insanity.

  6 hours ago, RaRaRavens said:

What a load of hogwash.

First, restructuring does not necessarily mean a player gets paid less. Converting base salary into bonus money pays the player the exact amount as before, just now some of that money is guaranteed. It's always risky for a team, but it's a common tool to lower a player's cap hit.

Secondly, plenty of QBs have done it. Brady and Big Ben have both done it at least 2 times in the past 5 years if I remember correctly.

Heavens to Betsy 

You are remembering incorrectly Brady and Ben restructured, but they still got the amount of money agreed upon when signing their contract.

Unless I'm mistaken, I think that's exactly what he just said. It's pay me now or pay me later. This whole salary cap crap in the NFL is mindboggling.

Well, I expect Aiken's numbers will go up, being able to play with a REAL NFL QB now.

  59 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

  1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I would take West over Blount for 2017. I don't care about TD numbers from RBs, because I understand that they deviate on an annual basis greatly and are far too erratic to count on. So unless I'm getting double digit TDs guaranteed from Blount (which nobody can say with any remote certainty), I think West is a better RB, so I'd take him.

If the goal is to field the best team with the resources we have, then my money wouldn't be best spend on a RB.

And its obviously very presumptuous to think that West would be gone if we signed Blount, given that you'd still only effectively have 2 RBs on the roster.

All of this again is meaningless to me, because I think this article is click bait. I don't think we're even remotely interested in any FA RB right now, nor should we be. If we look to add a back, it will be in the draft.

I would also point out that going the 3rd/4th round route has mostly worked for us, because a lot of our better players are coming from the mid-round these days. If you're talking RBs exclusively, its far too small of a sample size and not good enough of an offensive line to notice.

Yes I'm talking about RB specifically of course! And how is 3 RBs in taken in the 3rd and 4th rounds in 3 consecutive years a small sample?

I agree, I don't think we are in the hunt for a RB but I'm just weighing the options of west (1.7mil zero guaranteed vs other options) sorry I didn't write the article. If it was so meaningless then why are you fighting for your life over it lol

and it's fair to assume we let go of west since we're assuming that were signing someone in the first place. Your also assuming that we keep both when no one inferred the latter.

and we do have more than 2 RBs. (Tallifaro and Allen can compete for #3 and 4 on the depth charts) your also assuming we don't draft any RB. Now look who's assuming.

and based on last year, Blounts chances of getting 10 TDs are higher than the latter because we failed drastically when it was 1st and goal. Wait you just said you don't care about TDs then followed your statement by saying unless someone guarantees 10 TDs... Which one is it?

and once again. I'm comparing the 1.7 mil tendered for west vs Blount if he was signed. No one is saying hey lets get yet another RB

and last but not least. Please answer the question. Is Blount for the price of west an upgrade for 2017 or a downgrade? 

1. The small sample size would be a combination of being unable to evaluate Dixon at all, meaning you can't say that it "hasn't worked out", and the lack of playing time of the other guys.

2. I inferred the latter, because they almost certainly wouldn't cut West if they signed Blount. I'm not even sure why people think they would. It would mean Taliaferro certainly doesn't make the team, which he likely won't anyway, and Allen likely wouldn't either. They're gonna carry 4 backs on the 53 man, and then it becomes a game of whether West or Blount would be active on gamedays once Dixon returns.

3. Us failing on 1st and goal doesn't change by bringing in Blount. Again, its a myth that he's this great short yardage back. If its 1st and goal from the 1, sure, he'll get in, along with any other back on our roster. If its 1st and goal from the 8, he's probably not getting in at all, along with any other back on our roster.

4. The reason why I don't care about TDs unless they're guaranteed is because if he's not scoring, what good is he doing? We've already acknowledged he's not a great back in terms of getting actual yardage, so if he's not scoring, what value is he bringing? He doesn't pass protect well, he doesn't play ST well, so what's he doing here?

5. I answered your question already genius. I answered it very clearly. I will quote it again in case you missed it..."I would take West over Blount for 2017".

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

People will always complain no matter what. The same people crying we spent this money are the same people who cried when the Steelers walked all over our defense scoring 21 points in the fourth quarter and we couldn't stop ANY team in the fourth quarter. For all the Flacco bashing that goes on he was always able to get that score in the fourth quarter to put us ahead but the defense would turn right around and let the other team score and win. When you try to please everyone, you please no one. Thank goodness Ozzie doesn't listen to the people in here. Carr is a good, solid, press corner who is a reliable player who goes out every day and is successful and if your other corner is injury prone, you need someone reliable. If you watched Dallas last year, OCs went after Claiborne, not Carr. There is a reason for that. Claiborne was a sporadic, fly around, get caught out of position corner, fooled on the double move and Carr was a solid, Fluid, press corner who was always within a step of his guy. Educate yourself, if you have access to the Cowboys games, watch them and then tell me Carr's money was a waste.

The Ravens had either 7-0, or 10-0 leads in the 1st quarter six times last year. Then never scored more than 23 points in any of those games. COMPLETE tank by the AWFUL QB and the AWFUL HC and OC the Ravens pay to LOSE. The Steelers scored 14 points in the first game also, in the fourth quarter, with their offense on the field for nearly 12 minutes. Same as the Ravens O scored the entire game. It's money wasted, no matter who they sign, as long as Pathetic Joe and Self Righteous John are still on this team. Educate yourself.

Which game this year does J. Smith get his FIRST injury of the year? I say opening day.

7 hours ago, riseNConquer81 said:

its not, and i shouldnt have. 
the fact that your first and only argument to the contrary is an ad hominem attack pretty much belies your point. 
if it was so "idiotic," you'd have a more intelligent response than that.
thanks for playing though.

You're right.  "Idiotic" wasn't a very intelligent response.  Shoulda' said "moronic."

Anyone who thinks Urschel is better than Zuttah, is g(x)=4x+6-1+k(y) in the head.

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

In case you hadn't noticed, there are multiple teams in this league that have spent 10-20 years (or more) looking for even a respectable NFL QB.

 

We noticed.  Ravens have been looking for 21 years.

We're strong up the middle, great. No pass rush, no corners. If we run into the '86 Giants we'll be in great shape.

Not really, Pathetic Joe'll get sacked eight times, fumble three times and throw four picks. Giants 27, Ravens -10.

Actually, NO. I didn't NEED to see this "INSANE" cake. Do some REAL work, Mink!

Webb was the best punt returner they ever had, other than Reed. I understand, when he became their full time no.1 corner, they hesitated to put him back there any more, just like Reed. But heck, every time he got hurt, it was playing D, not returning. Don't know why they didn't use him back there the last several years, considering the other dozen or so guys they've used the last decade or so have been awful. One of the most underrated Ravens. Not out of the question he could be back. Never know.

Well that sucks. I didn't even know he was a free agent! So the Ravens have lost their two best defensive players from last year, Guy and Orr. Also easy to type their names. By the way, who the heck considers Kaufusi, a "rising sophomore." I guess the only way you can go from the bottom is up.

That's great. It's all farts and giggles right now. Let's see how well these guys can play, to help the Ravens overcome their biggest detriment, Pathetic Joe.