1 minute ago, RavensDieHard21 said:Why leak picks? Makes it uninteresting. Lol Breer and Rapp should just chill on Twitter.
Frankly I don't blame them. 5 minute commercial breaks after every pick? The 49ers have probably already submitted their choice at this point, and they haven't announced PIttsburgh's yet.
There's no reason 32 draft picks should take 4 hours.
Just now, rossihunter2 said:ian rapoport reporting that the 49ers are coming back into the 1st round - surely that's a qb and they just want the 5th year option
Possibly. Feels to me like they should be all in on Cousins next year.
Just now, rossihunter2 said:these browns are accidentally it seems building a great team
They're being smart. Take good players with upside, and wait for a year where there's actually NFL-caliber QBs in the draft.
They can field the team they have and still finish with a top 5 pick easily just based on talent alone.
Just now, Ravens4Real said:The Browns probably jumped the Steelers to take Kizer bc they actually believed the Steelers would take him.
Its Njoku, the TE.
Which makes even more sense.
1 minute ago, arnie_uk said:Thought he said he wouldn't leak
Thought the same thing.
He probably got tired of waiting for the 10 minute commercial breaks between picks. Especially when teams two picks later have already made their selections.
Just now, RavensDieHard21 said:Browns trading up for Foster. No doubt.
Njoku. Not Foster.
Just now, Sami84 said:i hate to break this to everyone
i think we're 4th in the AFC north next year. Browns have more talent then us.
1. No they don't.
2. They don't have a QB and won't come out of this draft with a better one than we have, so it doesn't matter who their other players are.
Still well below average defensively, still not a great offensive line.
1 minute ago, gtalk12 said:
WHY WOULD YOU PUT THIS OUT IN THE UNIVERSE?
Because he's not making it to our 2nd round pick anyway.
Just now, MadStorkSociety said:You breaka my heart.
I'll say Foster.
Just now, hn68wb4 said:I'm kind of shocked that Bolles is the only lineman off the board this late.
Yeah wait til the second round or maybe end of 1st. You'll see a run on them.
2 minutes ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:I can agree with you on that but the first round pick every avenue of scouting and prying should be exhausted to make sure your getting the guy you need. for the amount of money your going to pay him. Now that said yes it is less money than in years past but it is still 7 figures. I hope Humphrey does pan out and can contribute this season and not because of injury or just playing special teams this was pick number 16 that's middle of the board he should be able to contribute more than just on special teams and I truly hope he does.
Cool. Every avenue of scouting and prying still doesn't mean the guy has to come to your facility. You can accomplish both of those things easily without that ever happening.
5 minutes ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:well said and with all the additions to the secondary we have made this year a MLB or OLB would have been more of a need at this time.
You're not using a first round pick to fill a "need" "at this time". You're picking a player who's going to be an asset for you for 10 years.
Note also that the investments in the secondary include a safety and essentially a 1 year deal on an average corner... and we still have our best corner who rarely plays a full season.
Its almost like you guys forget what happens when Jimmy Smith goes down, which he does frequently.
1 minute ago, Somerset Ravens said:Trades are always available. Do you really believe Ozzie didn't get any calls? This draft has a good supply of cornerbacks. I am not saying Humphrey is not a talent. With the number of needs we have we could have traded back and gotten a player who will contribute as much as Humphrey and at position of bigger need than cornerback.
I have no idea if he got calls, and neither do you. What if the calls all sucked? Should he just take that because he wants to get another pick?
Can make a very strong case that DB was the #1 need for this team anyway. The difference here is that you're looking for needs based exclusively on the 2017 season. Absolutely never a good way to look at things.
You're best corner rarely plays a full season, and you're other outside corner is an aging player who's not shown to be anything other than average... and is only here on a one year deal basically.
Certainly not taking a WR in this spot or probably anytime soon, and the Olineman generally suck.
Only other consideration for me is a pass rusher.
1 minute ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:My question is why have them if they are such a waste of time? The front offices and scouts should be managing their time more wisely then huh...
I didn't say they were a waste of time. I said they're certainly not a requirement in order to draft a player.
Do you really think that the only way they can evaluate a guy is by bringing him into the facility and working him out? Again, we draft 6-7 guys or more every year, and most of them will have never sniffed our facility.
1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:possibly kizer. what did they get in the trade back?
If they're smart, they're holding out for Darnold or a QB in next years class, which projects to be better.
Or they obviously have the ability to be players for Cousins or Garoppolo in FA.
Just now, rossihunter2 said:wait who said it was the ravens?
Was just announced on ESPN by Schefter. Ravens gave him a lie detector test and he passed.
Kind of silly if you ask me. Polygraphs aren't really useful anymore.
4 minutes ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:it will be someone did not do their homework and yes pre-draft visit is part of the homework for the draft.
You're only allowed a certain number of pre-draft visits, and i can assure you that our draft board is much longer than the number of visits we get.
Just now, ALI624 said:I don't know maybe to get to know him. Work him out. See if he can learn a playbook.
He's playing defense. Nobody has exotic playbooks for defensive players.
3 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:The only reason I'm pissed is because the CB class is so freaking deep. We could've got a guy in the 3rd who can play nearly if not just as well.
Short answer is... maybe.
What if in 3 years we're laughing about how completely the opposite this turned out to be? All conjecture at this point and based on what a bunch of analysts that miss like 50% of the time think.
16 minutes ago, Somerset Ravens said:It puts you in a position to fill at least 2 needs.
No it doesn't. It puts you in position to take the two best players on the board.
Corner is without question a need anyway.
Also ignores the fact that it requires at least two teams to agree to a trade. You can't trade with yourself, and there's no trade override button like in Madden.
So the questions you will need to then answer are:
1. Which teams are we trading with?
2. Which player are they coming up to get?
3. What compensation are we getting and how can we be assured that the players we trade back for will be better player than the guys we gave up in the trade?
If you can't make definitive statements about all of these things, then we're obviously not in any position to discuss trades.
Just now, Somerset Ravens said:No, you trade back.
And then take another position that isn't a need?
Makes no sense.
What does trading back do?
1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:I think it has a lot more to do with Carr being essentially a series of one year deals...
It's a perfect scenario. You don't have to start Humphrey in year 1.
2 minutes ago, Somerset Ravens said:Picking Humphrey with so many bigger needs is disappointing.
We don't spend first rounders on needs.
6 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:I know that a trade needs two parties, but how couldn't we get one with that much insane value on the board??! Humphrey would have been there in 5-10 picks!
Given how this draft has played out, no way you can say that with any confidence.
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Well except when it comes to winning SBs, of course.
But if that's not your thing then so be it.