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  2 hours ago, Tiznut said:

Iirc they did try to get him into Baltimore as a udfa but he chose cincy.  So yes he was wanted in Baltimore 

I don't know where you believe that Baltimore tried to get Burfict...  or Adam "pacman" Jones.....  Cannot find anything on it that documents that for either player.  They've known that both of those players are dirty and have known it for years.  The only place I have EVER seen discussion about either of them is in here.....   or on Russell Street Report in their discussion boards.  Never once saw it reported by this organization that they wanted either of these guys.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Late-For-Work-38-Ravens-Interested-In-Pacman-Jones-Raiders-Offer-Huge-Money-To-Kelechi-Osemele/6f3d8a98-5222-4700-b5ef-ac37ddbb5cce

  37 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

  4 hours ago, RavenLunatic said:

No matter what the Ravens do, I think it's going to still be a couple years before we can contend. Too many holes. Although the draft this year really focused on D, how many times do all of a teams drafted players come in and make an impact? Let alone undrafted guys. We better find a few UFAs to fill the biggest gaps we have this year, or we're in real trouble. I think next year the FO will focus heavily on offense, then we'll need a year to see how those picks go. By the 2019 draft we'll be looking for Joe's replacement and whatever holes are still there, which I hope aren't a lot.

Just can't feel super positive right now.

Depends on what we are "contending" for. If its for a playoff spot, we're already there.

If its for a SB, then yes, probably at least a year or two away.

I look at it this way...

1. I don't see any team in our division, outside of maybe Cleveland, who has significantly upgraded their roster from the previous year. Pittsburgh did basically nothing in FA, and while they made some draft picks I liked, I still think their defense is a significant liability. Cincinnati is going to be a lot worse than people think they are, mostly because they're not very good defensively anymore and their Oline is atrocious. And while Cleveland is doing a lot of things I like, we obviously know they aren't contenders next season.

2. If you make the case that our offense is still bad, we at least on paper upgraded the defense, or particularly, upgraded the secondary. I can't see a version of this team being worse on defense this year than last year.

In theory I suppose we could be even worse on offense, but that's hard to see based on how badly we looked at times.

Not likely this season that the Ravens will be playoff team. Too many new players trying to gel together. I do see it next year with all the new talent from this season and an improvement on the offensive side. Remember we got a qb that can be like hot and cold running water. And that means that unless we replace him (not likely) the defense is going to have to be on their game most of the time...

Not really all that concerned about defensive players ability to gel together. Most of it is in the secondary anyway.

I certainly see an improved team from a year ago. If we don't make the playoffs, I think it'll either be because of a key injury (to somebody like Joe), or because other teams in the conference/division simply improved more than we did.

No matter what the Ravens do, I think it's going to still be a couple years before we can contend. Too many holes. Although the draft this year really focused on D, how many times do all of a teams drafted players come in and make an impact? Let alone undrafted guys. We better find a few UFAs to fill the biggest gaps we have this year, or we're in real trouble. I think next year the FO will focus heavily on offense, then we'll need a year to see how those picks go. By the 2019 draft we'll be looking for Joe's replacement and whatever holes are still there, which I hope aren't a lot.

Just can't feel super positive right now.

Depends on what we are "contending" for. If its for a playoff spot, we're already there.

If its for a SB, then yes, probably at least a year or two away.

I look at it this way...

1. I don't see any team in our division, outside of maybe Cleveland, who has significantly upgraded their roster from the previous year. Pittsburgh did basically nothing in FA, and while they made some draft picks I liked, I still think their defense is a significant liability. Cincinnati is going to be a lot worse than people think they are, mostly because they're not very good defensively anymore and their Oline is atrocious. And while Cleveland is doing a lot of things I like, we obviously know they aren't contenders next season.

2. If you make the case that our offense is still bad, we at least on paper upgraded the defense, or particularly, upgraded the secondary. I can't see a version of this team being worse on defense this year than last year.

In theory I suppose we could be even worse on offense, but that's hard to see based on how badly we looked at times.

  1 hour ago, ravens4life86 said:

Nice try Eisenberg. Taken a player(s) with diluted samples for likely weed is not the same as them taken a Joe Mixon like the Bengals. Bonefied stud who could vastly improve our team.

At some point you must stop punishing the fanbase for Rice situation, afterall Rice has turned into a great citizen.

I don't totally disagree with you but I do know that a Bengals reporter from the Bengals team website stated that about 75% of the Bengals fanbase didn't want Mixon either, but if he is instrumental in them winning a playoff game, he will be the most popular person in Cincinnatti. Unfortunately, Ravens fans would be the same way if we drafted him and he helped us win regardless of his background, they would embrace him. People can say no they wouldn't, but they know they would.

Of course they would. Because at the end of the day, this isn't a morality contest. They're football players. To the fans, they are entertainment... pure and simple.

I don't care if my RB is a nice guy. He can cheat on his wife, cheat on his taxes, not spend time with his kids, etc. Couldn't care less. There's millions of people in this country that do the same thing, and I'm not going to pretend more about the morality of an NFL player than any of those people.

I care about what the player does in his free time to the extent that it affects my perceived entertainment. If he's doing things that will keep him off the football field, I care, because he's not entertaining me if he's not on the football field.

BUT, at the same time, I also don't own the Baltimore Ravens, nor do I make a living off their profits. And as such, I don't have sponsors who have input into the kind of person I employ. Because if I employ somebody who will cause my sponsors to decide to cease doing business with me, then I have to seriously evaluate whether that employee is worth being a part of my organization.

And that's what happens with Rice, and its what we would have to weigh with a guy like Mixon. Is he valuable enough that he will positively impact the bottom line of the company, and are his character issues bad enough that I think he will hinder the entertainment of the consumers in the future?

Those are the questions I'm asking myself if I'm Steve. And I'd bet he does it just the same.

Nice try Eisenberg. Taken a player(s) with diluted samples for likely weed is not the same as them taken a Joe Mixon like the Bengals. Bonefied stud who could vastly improve our team.

At some point you must stop punishing the fanbase for Rice situation, afterall Rice has turned into a great citizen.

Actually the fanbase is punishing themselves for that, since they're the one's driving the Ravens stance on this.

  43 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

But your information isn't as reliable, because you're not actually READING the information.

My information is based on what he's actually done in the past (i.e. waiting until July to sign last year to avoid the offseason program) and based on what other reporters have said.

Your information seems to based on a 2014 article that you either didn't read, or read the title and THOUGHT that it said that he was interested in returning to Baltimore to play for the Ravens.

That's not reliable information. That's you wanting an article to say something that it doesn't say, also known as being manipulative. That's what you did.

All you have is the Ravens want him back. That's it. Don't bother responding, because you have no further insight or information. to add to this.

Of course I'm not reading it...  SMH.....  move on now.

I guess you missed the part where you have nothing further to add and you need not reply.

I thought mods were supposed to be grown ups? Apples fallen very, very, very far from the tree in this case.

Being manipulative is bad enough.

  14 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Statement from him saying that? No, you haven't seen that. Just like you haven't seen him say that he wants to play for the Ravens.

Reports from people around the NFL? Yes, you've seen plenty of those. Plenty of those have indicated he won't sign until close to training camp.

Here's one in particular that references their expectation that he won't sign until June or July.

http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/anquan-boldin-could-still-re-sign-with-lions/

What I said was a guess. It was also an EDUCATED one. There en lies the difference.

So yours is an educated one.... and everybody else's on here is not.  Come on man.  Lots of us have read the very same articles. Like I said, based on information that has been reported and what is out there we are making guesses just like you are.  You're condescending comments are not quite so intimidating to me.  My information is as reliable as yours.  Just have fun and move on.

But your information isn't as reliable, because you're not actually READING the information.

My information is based on what he's actually done in the past (i.e. waiting until July to sign last year to avoid the offseason program) and based on what other reporters have said.

Your information seems to based on a 2014 article that you either didn't read, or read the title and THOUGHT that it said that he was interested in returning to Baltimore to play for the Ravens.

That's not reliable information. That's you wanting an article to say something that it doesn't say, also known as being manipulative. That's what you did.

All you have is the Ravens want him back. That's it. Don't bother responding, because you have no further insight or information. to add to this.

  12 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

No, he's waiting until the summer so he doesn't have to go through an offseason program with a team, mostly because he probably doesn't want to.

Note that he didn't resign with the Lions until late July last year... that's almost 3 months after the draft. Not a coincidence that it falls in line with when training camps begin.

That's when you'd expect him to make a decision.

So again, that would be "your guess"...  Just sayin'  NOWHERE have I seen that statement.

Statement from him saying that? No, you haven't seen that. Just like you haven't seen him say that he wants to play for the Ravens.

Reports from people around the NFL? Yes, you've seen plenty of those. Plenty of those have indicated he won't sign until close to training camp.

Here's one in particular that references their expectation that he won't sign until June or July.

http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/anquan-boldin-could-still-re-sign-with-lions/

What I said was a guess. It was also an EDUCATED one. There en lies the difference.

  6 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. The first article (from 2014, which makes it kind of hard to be relevant to 2017), references his desire to play AGAINST the Ravens, not his desire to resign with them.

2. I don't understand the point of the second article you posted. All it says is that Harbaugh wants him back.

We know this. Its been regurgitated over and over and over and over and over again by the fans who don't know what year it is.

Show me the article where Boldin says he's interested in returning to Baltimore. Because last I checked, its not up to Harbaugh. Harbaugh can want anybody he wants... it doesn't matter if that person doesn't want him.

As I've said many times... I wouldn't come back if I were him. Detroit's in a better position to win than we are right now, and so are other teams that could easily use his services.

Maybe he does sign with us. It would certainly surprise me. Because I can't answer the "why".

Ya' know Jacket..  Unless it's spelled right out there for ya' sometimes you just don't get it.  CAN'T FANS HAVE SOME FUN WITH THIS?  Everything has to be so darned serious.

The second article points out that the organization is open to him returning...  The first article clearly states that he would be open to returning.  Old or not, if he decided to return, it would be possible. 

AND...  like I said 3 days ago..  His jersey number did just become available. 

 

1. Yes, we know the organization is open to him returning. Not sure why you felt the need to point that out. I'm not sure a day has gone by in over a month where a Ravens article hasn't referenced this.

Did you really think you were breaking news or something?

2. Actually, the article never once mentions anything about him being open to returning. I assume you read the headline and THOUGHT that's what it meant, but you clearly didn't read the article.

The headline was in reference to his desire to return to Baltimore to play AGAINST the Ravens. That's AGAINST the Ravens, not for the Ravens. If you read the first few sentences, you would have realized this.

Here are the actual snidbits from the article where Anquan actually speaks:

"It will be a chance to say goodbye to the fans in a proper way. I really wasn't afforded that opportunity; I got traded while I was away. Getting to practice at (M&T Bank Stadium), be around the fans, will be cool."

A guy saying that he's looking forward to coming back to a city so he can formally say goodbye to it is quite a bit different than him saying that he wants to come back.

I get that you'd WANT him to say this, but he's not saying what you want him to say.

  1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Free agent Anquan Boldin is undecided on playing football in 2017.
Boldin stated after Detroit's playoff loss that he would like to play another year, but he may be having second thoughts at age 36. Per Lions.com's Tim Twentyman, Boldin is "open to returning" to Detroit if he indeed keeps playing. Boldin's playmaking ability evaporated long ago, but he can still help an offense on third downs and in the red zone. He caught eight TDs in 2016.
Source: Tim Twentyman on Twitter Feb 3 - 8:36 PM

ESPN's Jim Trotter reports free agent WR Anquan Boldin will return for his 15th season.
Boldin played for the Lions last year, but the Detroit Free Press' Dave Birkett has "heard" Boldin may want to remain close to his Florida home. The veteran caught 67 passes for 584 yards and eight touchdowns in 2016. Still a useful possession and red-zone target, Boldin will be an asset wherever he lands.
Related: Lions
Source: Jim Trotter on Twitter Mar 13 - 12:07 PM

So you've got two different things here (neither of which has anything to do with Baltimore). One report from February indicating he'd like to return to Detroit, and another in March indicating he'd like to play closer to home in Florida.

What we don't have whatsoever is any indication that he wants to return to Baltimore.

except there were articles like this that came out in 2014 and thereafter indicating such...

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Anquan-Boldin-Eyes-Return-to-Baltimore/e044b16f-c57f-47fe-8f83-6c200b5b74b9

 

And This....

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/3/29/15097620/john-harbaugh-is-open-to-an-anquan-boldin-return-baltimore-ravens-reunion

 

 

1. The first article (from 2014, which makes it kind of hard to be relevant to 2017), references his desire to play AGAINST the Ravens, not his desire to resign with them.

2. I don't understand the point of the second article you posted. All it says is that Harbaugh wants him back.

We know this. Its been regurgitated over and over and over and over and over again by the fans who don't know what year it is.

Show me the article where Boldin says he's interested in returning to Baltimore. Because last I checked, its not up to Harbaugh. Harbaugh can want anybody he wants... it doesn't matter if that person doesn't want him.

As I've said many times... I wouldn't come back if I were him. Detroit's in a better position to win than we are right now, and so are other teams that could easily use his services.

Maybe he does sign with us. It would certainly surprise me. Because I can't answer the "why".

  2 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Or he could just resign with Detroit, who also wants him back. All indications so far is that's precisely what will happen.

We're not the only team looking for a veteran chain mover, and there are several of them that can pitch the "come here and compete to win a SB" concept better than the Ravens can at this point.

hence why he said he was going to wait until after the draft to make a decision.

No, he's waiting until the summer so he doesn't have to go through an offseason program with a team, mostly because he probably doesn't want to.

Note that he didn't resign with the Lions until late July last year... that's almost 3 months after the draft. Not a coincidence that it falls in line with when training camps begin.

That's when you'd expect him to make a decision.

  17 hours ago, eze17 said:

  18 hours ago, objective view said:

Yes wide receiver is a real concern BUT I do not believe that we have the O-Line solved yet. Yes we drafted 2 pieces but they were not top of the draft picks so it's questionable if either will be able to come close to starting and neither is a center. I do not think that either Urschel or Jensen can handle the starting center roll ..... Help Needed!

Nico Siragusa is starter material...Dude is a beast, who played every game that he was eligible in college. Look at his stats(or game film), he is not only a piledriver, but extremely durable to boot. I could easily see him starting at LG, and moving Alex Lewis to RT.(remember, Lewis played tackle in college, so not such a big transition for him.) As far as center, I wonder that Mangold and the Raven's don't have a handshake deal that he signs after June 1st. We'll have to wait and see...

I agree, we now should address the C, ILB, and WR....they did sign some undrafted rookies though, maybe they can become gems

All indications are we are content at ILB with internal players. We heard the same thing from fans when we decided to go with Orr at ILB as well.

Correa is going to get the first shot at the job, and if he gets outplayed by somebody else so be it.

From where I'm sitting, a 2nd ILB isn't really all that important in a base 3-4 that plays a lot of nickel coverage. Could even see more dime packages with the depth and talent our secondary now has.

Can see plenty of scenarios where the 2nd ILB is only playing maybe half the defensive snaps.

One cannot help wondering... just how hard is it for any fan to grasp the notion that the draft is NOT the last chance to add players to the roster? How hard one must ignore news to miss all the sea of news every single summer that this or that team added new guys to the roster - months AFTER the draft? How removed from reality one must be not to know that a roster is as far from its final, finished version in the first day of May, 4 months before the start of the season, as it can be? Who doesn't know that Steve Smith, Owen Daniels, Jacoby Jones, Vonta Leech were all added to the roster WELL AFTER the draft - just to name a few key late additions?

Who worries that all 53 players ending on the Ravens final roster in September, are already on the roster now?

Yes, one doesn't have to know the intricate details to be a fan. But we're talking about basics here...

Your history is a little hazy...

1. Steve Smith signed in March, about 2 weeks into FA. Well, well, well before the draft.

2. Owen Daniels signed in early April, about a month before the draft.

3. Jacoby signed in early May, about a week or two after the draft. While important to our SB win, he was primarily just a returner and never developed into a quality receiver.

The notable summer additions in recent years include Daryl Smith and Vonta Leach (and those were quite a while ago, actually). While we typically can get a role player at some point in the summer/fall, we're not signing world-beaters this late in most cases.

  1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Or he could just resign with Detroit, who also wants him back. All indications so far is that's precisely what will happen.

We're not the only team looking for a veteran chain mover, and there are several of them that can pitch the "come here and compete to win a SB" concept better than the Ravens can at this point.

What indications? They said they wanted him back, we said we want him back. He has said nothing. NO indications there.

Free agent Anquan Boldin is undecided on playing football in 2017.
Boldin stated after Detroit's playoff loss that he would like to play another year, but he may be having second thoughts at age 36. Per Lions.com's Tim Twentyman, Boldin is "open to returning" to Detroit if he indeed keeps playing. Boldin's playmaking ability evaporated long ago, but he can still help an offense on third downs and in the red zone. He caught eight TDs in 2016.
Source: Tim Twentyman on Twitter Feb 3 - 8:36 PM

ESPN's Jim Trotter reports free agent WR Anquan Boldin will return for his 15th season.
Boldin played for the Lions last year, but the Detroit Free Press' Dave Birkett has "heard" Boldin may want to remain close to his Florida home. The veteran caught 67 passes for 584 yards and eight touchdowns in 2016. Still a useful possession and red-zone target, Boldin will be an asset wherever he lands.
Related: Lions
Source: Jim Trotter on Twitter Mar 13 - 12:07 PM

So you've got two different things here (neither of which has anything to do with Baltimore). One report from February indicating he'd like to return to Detroit, and another in March indicating he'd like to play closer to home in Florida.

What we don't have whatsoever is any indication that he wants to return to Baltimore.

  26 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

  12 hours ago, frozen joe flacco fan said:

  19 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

The only "surprise" of the offseason thus far is the failure to sign a possession receiver, though the offseason obviously isn't even close to being over yet.

Would point out that the FO has already stated publicly that they feel pretty good about internal options at RT and at ILB, and so fans need to start taking notice of this and understand that its simply not a realistic expectation to have 22 starting spots locked down in May.

Very easily may be August before we even know who is going to be starting at those positions, and those players may or may not even be on the roster at this point.

I also would point out something I've been telling you guys for months... don't expect wholesale changes in terms of acquisitions on the offensive side of the ball, mainly because its easily the youngest side of the ball.

We've got youth at WR, TE, RB, and in some ways OLine. In many ways, I think the FO's stance on the offense is simple... they've just got to play better. The defense had age issues at a lot of spots, and those seem to be addressed pretty well at this point.

You nailed it! The FO's stance on the offense is simple... they've just got to play better. That's so easy to say. I am sure OC Marty will be relieved to hear it. Let's see. He has Wallace, Waller, Moore, Perriman, Matthews, Campanero and now Woodhead. Of the entire bunch, only two have proven they are starters - Wallace and Woodhead. The others have some potential but that's the worse thing you can say about an athlete. I would like to see Q come back to Bmore for an encore but don't count on it after the way the FO treated him after the SB. Ask yourself why Waller is a WR and not a TE. Get Perriman to make the routine chain-moving catches a pro is supposed to make for his QB instead of an occasional circus catch. Keep Campanero healthy for a whole season. Good luck, Marty! If we go into the season with Wallace, Perriman and Moore as the top 3 WRs, you are in serious trouble unless you can get them to "just play better". But what the heck, it will give the Flacco doubters and detractors some more cannon fodder. Not drafting a WR in this draft is symptomatic of a FO in denial, delusion or delirium. That's what is simple. In fact, its so simple its offensive (pun intended).

1. Well most of them have potential because they've only been in the league for about a year. By definition, that's what the majority of second year players in this league have in this league at this point. If teams wrote off all those players after a year, they'd be missing out on studs quite often.

2. Waller is a WR because we had like 7 TEs at the time, and he offers very little as a blocker, which is a requirement for a TE.

3. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter who our "top 3 WRs" are, because three receivers aren't producing in this offense. They never have, regardless of who the OC is.

Two WRs can produce, 1-2 TEs can produce, and a RB can produce. That's it. If your third WR is catching like 50-60 passes, that means we're throwing the ball 600+ times a season. That means we aren't running the ball effectively and we're losing games.

4. I mean I guess we could have drafted a WR, but obviously it wasn't happening in the first round, since the only one's worth that price tag were long gone before we picked. I only saw 3 go in the 2nd round, and I wasn't impressed with any of them outside of Zay Jones, who again, went long before we picked.

So I guess we could have used a 3rd round pick or later on a guy, but obviously its naive to think they're going to come in and start for us right away.

funny how you use the word "obviously" while trying to make your points. The only thing that is obvious is it's your opinion, and not fact

Well and the opinion of the other NFL teams in the league who decided to not use a first round pick on a WR.

And OBVIOUSLY, their opinions of players seem to matter just a little bit more than the opinions of fans.

  18 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

The only "surprise" of the offseason thus far is the failure to sign a possession receiver, though the offseason obviously isn't even close to being over yet.

Would point out that the FO has already stated publicly that they feel pretty good about internal options at RT and at ILB, and so fans need to start taking notice of this and understand that its simply not a realistic expectation to have 22 starting spots locked down in May.

Very easily may be August before we even know who is going to be starting at those positions, and those players may or may not even be on the roster at this point.

I also would point out something I've been telling you guys for months... don't expect wholesale changes in terms of acquisitions on the offensive side of the ball, mainly because its easily the youngest side of the ball.

We've got youth at WR, TE, RB, and in some ways OLine. In many ways, I think the FO's stance on the offense is simple... they've just got to play better. The defense had age issues at a lot of spots, and those seem to be addressed pretty well at this point.

You nailed it! The FO's stance on the offense is simple... they've just got to play better. That's so easy to say. I am sure OC Marty will be relieved to hear it. Let's see. He has Wallace, Waller, Moore, Perriman, Matthews, Campanero and now Woodhead. Of the entire bunch, only two have proven they are starters - Wallace and Woodhead. The others have some potential but that's the worse thing you can say about an athlete. I would like to see Q come back to Bmore for an encore but don't count on it after the way the FO treated him after the SB. Ask yourself why Waller is a WR and not a TE. Get Perriman to make the routine chain-moving catches a pro is supposed to make for his QB instead of an occasional circus catch. Keep Campanero healthy for a whole season. Good luck, Marty! If we go into the season with Wallace, Perriman and Moore as the top 3 WRs, you are in serious trouble unless you can get them to "just play better". But what the heck, it will give the Flacco doubters and detractors some more cannon fodder. Not drafting a WR in this draft is symptomatic of a FO in denial, delusion or delirium. That's what is simple. In fact, its so simple its offensive (pun intended).

1. Well most of them have potential because they've only been in the league for about a year. By definition, that's what the majority of second year players in this league have in this league at this point. If teams wrote off all those players after a year, they'd be missing out on studs quite often.

2. Waller is a WR because we had like 7 TEs at the time, and he offers very little as a blocker, which is a requirement for a TE.

3. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter who our "top 3 WRs" are, because three receivers aren't producing in this offense. They never have, regardless of who the OC is.

Two WRs can produce, 1-2 TEs can produce, and a RB can produce. That's it. If your third WR is catching like 50-60 passes, that means we're throwing the ball 600+ times a season. That means we aren't running the ball effectively and we're losing games.

4. I mean I guess we could have drafted a WR, but obviously it wasn't happening in the first round, since the only one's worth that price tag were long gone before we picked. I only saw 3 go in the 2nd round, and I wasn't impressed with any of them outside of Zay Jones, who again, went long before we picked.

So I guess we could have used a 3rd round pick or later on a guy, but obviously its naive to think they're going to come in and start for us right away.

  15 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

  17 hours ago, RavensBaltimore said:

  20 hours ago, robbie29 said:

  21 hours ago, sami said:

I think a lot of people are going to be surprised at how well our current bunch of WR's do. And for goodness sake, NO MORE BOLDIN. Hes gone, get over it.

Exactly. I'm not sure why this Boldin pipe dream keeps gaining more momentum.

Maybe it's because we have plenty of speed at WR, but we don't have a reliable, physical possession receiver, and Boldin happens to be just that. Also, Harbaugh expressed interest in bringing him back, Ozzie emphasized the need to add a possession receiver, and as of right now, there isn't anyone else out there on the market, so I don't know why you would think it's just a pipe dream.

The better question to be asking is why would Boldin want to come back to Baltimore?

Cuz Boldin and Flacco had a good relationship. AND Boldin is hanging out thee "until after the draft", before he makes a decision where he might go. He liked it here. I don't think he wanted to leave in the first place. He even said he would retire before playing elsewhere.  I wouldn't rule it out completely.  Like I said #81 just became available again.

Or he could just resign with Detroit, who also wants him back. All indications so far is that's precisely what will happen.

We're not the only team looking for a veteran chain mover, and there are several of them that can pitch the "come here and compete to win a SB" concept better than the Ravens can at this point.

  5 hours ago, robbie29 said:

  6 hours ago, sami said:

I think a lot of people are going to be surprised at how well our current bunch of WR's do. And for goodness sake, NO MORE BOLDIN. Hes gone, get over it.

Exactly. I'm not sure why this Boldin pipe dream keeps gaining more momentum.

Maybe it's because we have plenty of speed at WR, but we don't have a reliable, physical possession receiver, and Boldin happens to be just that. Also, Harbaugh expressed interest in bringing him back, Ozzie emphasized the need to add a possession receiver, and as of right now, there isn't anyone else out there on the market, so I don't know why you would think it's just a pipe dream.

The better question to be asking is why would Boldin want to come back to Baltimore?

The only "surprise" of the offseason thus far is the failure to sign a possession receiver, though the offseason obviously isn't even close to being over yet.

Would point out that the FO has already stated publicly that they feel pretty good about internal options at RT and at ILB, and so fans need to start taking notice of this and understand that its simply not a realistic expectation to have 22 starting spots locked down in May.

Very easily may be August before we even know who is going to be starting at those positions, and those players may or may not even be on the roster at this point.

I also would point out something I've been telling you guys for months... don't expect wholesale changes in terms of acquisitions on the offensive side of the ball, mainly because its easily the youngest side of the ball.

We've got youth at WR, TE, RB, and in some ways OLine. In many ways, I think the FO's stance on the offense is simple... they've just got to play better. The defense had age issues at a lot of spots, and those seem to be addressed pretty well at this point.

First step, make it thru training camp. Ravens seem to lose two to three players there and then Preseason.

Will likely happen again. Every team loses a couple players before the season starts.

Not really much can be done about that.

  1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

  1 hour ago, RavenFanInNewEngland said:

"Yeah, it's a very sound pick if you haven't thrown up in your own mouth in a while and forgot what it's like."
My sentiments exactly! Unbelievable! There were very talented OT's and pass rushers on the board. What a "whiff"!!!

Definitely don't see who these talented OT's are.

And apparently neither did any of the other teams, since basically none of them were drafted on day one.

So either every team in the league whiffed, or fans are wrong again. I'll let you decide which one is more likely (hint: its the latter).

You Obviously weren't paying attention!!! There's a fella named Bolles out of Utah that went 20th. But he wasn't even the best one. The Saints took Ryan Ramczyk at number 32.That dude is a beast! And with little doubt will be a consistent pro bowl selection. If we can't protect Joe, and run the ball... we don't win.

1. Bolles is expected to be a Guard in the Pros. Many guys who played Tackle in college slide inside in the Pros. Certainly not uncommon.

2. Nobody cares about Pro Bowlers. Horrific evaluation metric for any player.

Basically one Tackle goes in the first round, and it was the last pick.

I rest my case.

Pick is solid, but I'm getting VERY VERY concerned about our offense.

The talk of the town has been how we need to protect our NFL highest paid QB, how we need to improve our O line and how we need to get bigger and stronger in the trenches. So far the state of our O-line has gotten worse than it was last year.

EVEN IF we do manage to build up the line in the draft and by picking up some FAs and Flacco is kept upright in the pocket, he has almost no WRs to throw the ball to. Do not be mistaken, Perriman is not a proven starter until he is. And Wallace is 2nd WR at best. The rest of the group are just place holder at the moment. Even last year, when Flacco did get time to throw at times, more often than not he didn't have anyone open which resulted in dink-and-dunk plays and 3 and outs. And the situation has gotten worse with the departure of SSS.

I honestly don't know what the plan is here so I won't judge, but it'll require a 2nd and 3rd day of draft for the ages to give this offense a better shot than it did last year.

Entirely possible its addressed today or tomorrow.

But the reality is you can't force a square peg into a round hole. Certainly don't see any WRs available at our time to pick to take any of those, and same certainly applies to Oline. Pretty clear that the entire league thinks this OL class is terrible, especially at Tackle, which is where we probably need the most.

If fans want us to just start ranking our needs and picking a player based on the biggest need, then so be it. Just be aware that you'll end up taking a decent number of guys who simply won't be good football players.

So not only will you have not addressed the need, but you also wouldn't have upgraded any other position on the team either.

  1 hour ago, BiggMack91 said:

People are crazy if you don't think this man will have an immediate impact on our secondary we will have the best secondary in the league next year our D-line will have all day to get after the QB 50 sacks next year #1 D next year lets go ravens nation

He got Torched in College. With an epic Front 7 in front of him? Please explain how that translates to stopping Ben and Brady, not to mention being the 16th pick

No, he didn't get torched in College.

My educated guess is that you watched him play Clemson (one single game), where he didn't play well (and was playing against top flight WRs in college) and thus applied that to him as a player overall.

Very lazy.

Not a good pick by anyone's judgement. The only upside is if he does not work out I hope Ozzie and Harbs get released. I give the pick a (D- ) due to the position they were in at 16. I hope they get better next round.

Who is "anyone's judgment"? The fans?

LOL. If only their judgment meant anything.

"Yeah, it's a very sound pick if you haven't thrown up in your own mouth in a while and forgot what it's like."
My sentiments exactly! Unbelievable! There were very talented OT's and pass rushers on the board. What a "whiff"!!!

Definitely don't see who these talented OT's are.

And apparently neither did any of the other teams, since basically none of them were drafted on day one.

So either every team in the league whiffed, or fans are wrong again. I'll let you decide which one is more likely (hint: its the latter).