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Still doubt it. At best, I think he ends up on a PUP list for whoever drafts him, meaning he misses half the season. Basically a redshirt year for him. Rookie corner coming off a major injury with like 6 months to recover... not worth the risk.

He's not taking a paycut from the $6M base salary he's due this year, which is the only part that he can actually take a paycut from.

Yeah because tds per reception wouldn't be used to discuss efficiency. Btw that's 1 td per 8 receptions by boldin last yr It would be if it were a sustainable number, but you already know that it isn't. That's an indication of a redzone specialist, not an efficient receiver.

I could argue both sides. 1. Him having the best year of his career isn't saying much, because his career numbers were never great. 2. He had a ton of catches but was pretty bad in terms of yardage. That's pretty inefficient. 3. At $5.5M, he would be paid like a top TE in the league, which he really isn't. Also takes into account the gigantic health risk associated.

........based on Luck winning SO MANY playoff games and his Super Bowl performance? Oh, that's right, no real history there. Well he did have three postseason wins in his first 3 years, which is exceptionally strong. You won't find that in this league very often.

Well, you would expect a rookie to drop more passes than a 5th year player. The difference between the two is about 2-4 yards/catch. So basically, Perriman can do more damage (and did last season) with less receptions. That's called being efficient. I think you mean effective. Perriman is more effective than efficient Either way his draft reports said he drop a high rate of passes in college and now its starting to show its ugly head in NFL. John H not going to be able to cope with that this year. Jobs are on the line. No actually he's more efficient also. Getting more yards/catch is being efficient as well. John's job may be on the line, but Perriman's isn't, and John doesn't have a choice but to cope with the growing pains of a 2nd year WR. Boldin is effective and efficient. Sign him in July. Well, actually, if Aiken isn't efficient, then Boldin can't be either, since Boldin's YPC was significantly less than Aiken's. Obviously the Ravens won't be signing Boldin. There's only one person who hasn't come to grips with this, and it ain't anybody in the FO of the Ravens...

It means they thought his injury would heal with rest and rehab. Three months later they realized it wouldn't.

i like brown as well but he is out of our price range with what we have left in cap space. still have to pay the rookies and have emergency $$ for in season signings when injuries occur. imo if correia does not step up than ozzie and the scouts will have dropped the ball on an early round pick yet again. hoping he is the real deal. If they don't get Brown, they gonna have to get a LB early. I wish they could get Brown so they could fill that void right away and maybe even a better upgrade. All well we'll see what happens. I wish Orr didn't have to retire. Or they can just stop playing as many two ILB looks. We don't play a base 3-4 that often anyway, so we could play more nickel/dime looks and rotate linebackers that way. There's no right or wrong price range for Brown, because you're not going to pay $6-7M a year to two ILBs at the same time, which is what you'll be doing. Very hard to get any sort of ROI on that.

Its based on contract size mostly. He basically gets a league minimum contract. I don't think that's right, but I found the answer to my question...only Unrestricted Free-Agents count towards the formula, and Huff is a RFA. Yes, but not all UFAs count either. Again, the three biggest pieces of the Comp pick formula are compensation, playing time, and postseason honors... in that order. Huff, regardless of whether he was a UFA or RFA, wasn't going to qualify for a comp pick based on that criteria, because he has minimal compensation, zero playing time, and zero postseason honors.

I don't. He's been on the market quite a while and his price probably drop. 3 years 20M will probably be enough to sign him if they want. He also fired his agent due to making him being overpriced. LOL, well at 3 years, $20M you already know why we aren't going after him... because we don't have that kind of money to spend. With that kind of price tag for a #2 MLB, we wouldn't be able to extend Mosley in a year or two. He'd have to be in the $3-4M/year range or even less for us to entertain it. You do realize that spending $6-7M/year on a second ILB is a ton right?

I don't think we have any interest in him or he has any interest in us.

How do you know how expensive he is?

He may not have been cut then but a performance like he had that last yr and he wouldn't be picked up by anyone. Now we are a few years removed from his bad yr and he's a few yrs removed from playing. No team is going to pick him up because of that and not because they're still holding the dv against him. My questions to him him would be. If you're adamant you can play why not go north and showcase your pass catching and run after catch ability? Wouldn't that be the best way to show that you can still play? Show that you can still play... to who? The NFL? Do you think the NFL would care one bit if he went to Canada and dominated? The NFL rarely signs high quality CFL players who are actually young and good... what makes you think they would sign a 28-29 year old RB from the CFL?

Kind of. I'm saying that if our FO are really considering adding another RB then just let west go. I don't think anyone is willing to give up a third for him and I would feel horrible if we kept west till may then let him go and he signs for someone on a minimum deal. If their not considering adding a RB in FA and that probably is the case then all the power to them and west. I just really like west as a man and don't wish we hinder his progress in any way. But again, there's two other RBs on the roster that you would certainly cut before you cut West. Why would you keep Taliaferro and Allen but cut West, when West is obviously your best 2-down runner for the first month currently? Again, this just seems like fans want the Ravens to cut a better player "just to be nice". Business doesn't work that way, and West certainly knows that.

Ok as you wish. Ray rice was a horrible player and a person. Had he not layed a hand on his wife then the Ravens would have cut him regardless. And no other team in the NFL would have given him a tryout for 3 years so he should have just retired then. Better? Cool. So basically this is just a bunch of Ray Rice fans wishing he could play again so they get some nostalgia from it. Very easy to say of course, when assuming none of the risk of anything. Because, again, comparing his situation to AP's doesn't hold any weight, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten an actual legitimate reason why it does. If you REALLY wanted to play this out... Rice would have been on the team in 2014 because of his contract and the dead money associated with it. He almost certainly would have been cut after that season, and he would have spent a year or two bouncing around the league scrounging for mop up duty, with probably not much interest from most teams due to the tread on his tires and his age and rapidly declining skills. And instead he hit his wife and expedited his retirement. So he saved you the "pleasure" of watching him pull an Ed Reed at the end of his career. Feel better now?

No actually the guy was saying if Peterson gets a chance then so should rice. And I agree. Rice should have gotten another chance. I didn't say the Ravens should sign him. Neither did he And why should Rice get a chance because AP did? Do people think Rice was as good as AP in 2013 or something? You guys don't seriously think they are comparable do you? Feels like an apples vs oranges comparison.

Well there's always the definitive possibility that the Ravens didn't think Aiken was a very good WR (which most people agree with) and that the fans, for the millionth time, overvalue their own players. It appears the marketplace shares the Ravens sentiments there. Not like Aiken didn't have the opportunity to get more involved... all he had to do was beat out a 36-37 year old WR for playing time. Didn't manage to do that either.

I get all of that and agree that rice was in decline. And now he's probably off the cliff. The case being made here is wether or not he was worth someone taking a chance on him. The answer to that is yes, as a player he declined but not as much as out of the NFL declined. Heck his backup got 2 more chances on minimum deals but he didn't even get 1 call for 3 years. Was Rice in decline, yes and so was the whole team that year. Was rice so bad that he couldnt even be a backup somewhere, no. It just turned out that teams weren't willing to risk a PR nightmare over a player that wasn't getting 2000 yards from scrimmage rice was cut because of the domestic violence issue not his play. And then he stayed home for 3 years because of the same reason. Not his play. thats all were trying to say No actually what we're trying to say is that you don't need to sign somebody like him to be a backup. Like thing about what you're saying. You're saying that he's a backup. That means, ideally, he's basically never going to play. We're not talking about bringing him in as a change of pace back or a guy you give the ball to a couple times a game. We're talking about the kind of player that, ideally, never sees the field for you. So why in the World would any team want that player and the PR that comes with that? What does ANY NFL franchise gain by signing Ray Rice? Now, or two years ago? Its a simple risk/reward analysis. The risk is you get chastised by the media, your sponsors, your fans. The reward is that he never plays for you. Yeah, sounds like a wonderful choice. He's out of the league due to a combination of those things. If he was a quality player, he'd have played longer. See Greg Hardy. You better be able to provide some sort of reward to a team in that case, and its almost impossible to argue he provided that.

Ravens withdrew his contract 2 weeks ago. He can sign with anybody as an unrestricted free agent. He signed with the Chiefs last week. The reason he won't count against the comp pick formula is because they don't give out comp picks for guys who sign for near the minimum, which he did.

Well, you would expect a rookie to drop more passes than a 5th year player. The difference between the two is about 2-4 yards/catch. So basically, Perriman can do more damage (and did last season) with less receptions. That's called being efficient. I think you mean effective. Perriman is more effective than efficient Either way his draft reports said he drop a high rate of passes in college and now its starting to show its ugly head in NFL. John H not going to be able to cope with that this year. Jobs are on the line. No actually he's more efficient also. Getting more yards/catch is being efficient as well. John's job may be on the line, but Perriman's isn't, and John doesn't have a choice but to cope with the growing pains of a 2nd year WR.

I think they'll use somebody internally or a mid-round pick. We've had no issue finding quality Olineman in the middle rounds, and using a day 2 or 3 pick on a RT makes plenty of sense.

Its based on contract size mostly. He basically gets a league minimum contract.

Well, you would expect a rookie to drop more passes than a 5th year player. The difference between the two is about 2-4 yards/catch. So basically, Perriman can do more damage (and did last season) with less receptions. That's called being efficient.

Well, since the Jaguars, Ravens and Patriots were the 6th, 7th and 8th defenses in the league (based on points), your opinion is not exactly accurate. (http://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T) PPG isn't the greatest metric to measure a defense by either. Has many flaws.

LOL nice try. Aiken was the 5th target, and he's been in the league 5 years, and he's getting outplayed by a rookie... to the tune of almost 4 yards/catch. That's how you end up with 170 yards less... with just four less catches. Yikes... that's bad. And that's why he signs a one year deal in FA in a bad WR market. You're gonna have to come up with something better than catches bud. This ain't a PPR fantasy league.