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Harbaugh - you're an idiot. It just dawned on you that you need to give your QB protection and weapons - freaking brilliant!!!

12 hours ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

It honestly was not Marty IMO. Flacco is to blame for the lack of audibles when the defense knows exactly which play we are about to run. That starts in practice. That "Joe Cool" slogan also backfires at us. I like that he stays calm in tense situations but I would rather see a QB play with more enthusiasm and determination to win. That means calling audibles and being a vocal leader.

Also, the announcers in almost every game for us have all said the same thing over and over again......."Nobody is getting open". Our receivers having a hard time getting open has also been killing this offense.

I still think that as long as Harbaugh is here this team will continue to be mediocre at best. I said back in 2012 that he took the credit from Ray Lewis. People forget that Harbaugh came the same offseason that we drafted Flacco & Ray Rice. Ray Rice who was the sole reason for us even being in the playoffs. Which I still cannot forgive Ozzie Newsome and Steve Biscotti for. I mean, these guys literally played God by choosing to not give Rice a second chance. But thats another topic. Regardless, all this team needed was a good QB and we got that with Flacco, and also got a beam of light with Ray Rice. Ray Lewis was already the vocal leader, heart & soul, and coach of this team. Harbaugh was just a guy filling in the hole of "Head Coach". Get harbaugh outta here, but do not just bring in any guy. We either need Ray Lewis as HC or an old school, hard nosed, smash mouth football kind of Head Coach. In all serious, if I were Ozzie I would get on the phone and see if Ray is interested in a coaching position.

Guess you missed Yanda's comment about RUNNING THE PLAY THAT IS CALLED!!!  He is not the first player to say this people!!! 

57 minutes ago, slowboater said:

Yanda's comments sound boilerplate. How can I be a fly on the wall and find out what he really thinks?

He politically correctly said - if you have a problem with the way the offense was ran or with the plays that were called talk to the OC or the HC - I'm just a player that runs the plays as they are called...brilliant!!!!

@KidNMe

Straight from Yanda's mouth...THEY RUN THE PLAYS THAT ARE CALLED!!!

“It would be nice to run the ball more, but in the end, I found out with that over the years that’s Marty’s call. That’s John’s [Harbaugh] call,” right guard Marshal Yanda said.

“What helps is that you’re locked in to run the play that’s called, because that’s my job. That’s Marty’s job to call the plays. That’s John’s job. Let them do their job and we’ll do ours.”
 

On ‎12‎/‎19‎/‎2016 at 1:28 PM, KidNme said:

Joe can check out of a play and has done it more than once so there is some decision making allowed by him. So you're saying Joe had the ability to change or make play calls in 2012 but we took that away from him after him winning the AFC and SB in doing so that year? (Not sure how you got that inside information). They don't share that info with us but I guess you have a special bond with Harbs so by all means, continue to enlighten us all with your infinite wisdom.

Straight from Yanda's mouth...

“It would be nice to run the ball more, but in the end, I found out with that over the years that’s Marty’s call. That’s John’s [Harbaugh] call,” right guard Marshal Yanda said.

“What helps is that you’re locked in to run the play that’s called, because that’s my job. That’s Marty’s job to call the plays. That’s John’s job. Let them do their job and we’ll do ours.”

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Joe-Flacco-Dennis-Pitta-Dont-Foresee-Change-At-Offensive-Coordinator/b2c53637-8226-440f-b656-d14ec5c9f360?_fromLogin=1

  3 hours ago, omar586 said:

the key to pit game is our secondary, if they contain all those WRs/TE, we can win, if not, get ready for the draft. we have to win out basically, if we lose 1 game we're out b/c dolphins/kc will pick the WCs

Uhh, not really- the key is not our secondary. The Buffalo Bills' secondary shut down Pittsburgh's passing game and look what happened- Pittsburgh went with the run and Le'Veon Bell absolutely destroyed Buffalo with 200+ yards of rushing and 3 TDs. With Pittsburgh, it's never as simple as one key to the game.

Exactly, we need to do exactly as we did in the first game - shut down Bell and Brown!!!

  2 hours ago, budkretz said:

  3 hours ago, omar586 said:

the key to pit game is our secondary, if they contain all those WRs/TE, we can win, if not, get ready for the draft. we have to win out basically, if we lose 1 game we're out b/c dolphins/kc will pick the WCs

We all know if we win both games we're in. Ravens just do it, so we don't have to play the what if game. However, the what if game is: If we go 1-1 and it doesn't matter who we lose to and end 9-7 we can get the #6 wild card If: Miami must lose both games (they are at Buf and then home against Pats) they win one game they have the #6 spot by record. Tenn and Den must lose at least one of their last two games to have the Ravens tie or better them and we have the tiebreaker on both. At best the Colts and Buf can tie and we have tiebreaker over Indy and beat Buf head-to-head. The first wild card slot #5 will go to either Oak or KC whoever doesn't win their division.

Merry Christmas to all and on Christmas night around 7:30 we hope to be cheering a Ravens victory to cap a great day of family celebration.

In my eyes, if we do not win the division we might might as well just not the playoffs anyway because l don't see them going to the Super Bowl as a wild card team and have to go on the road the rest of the way. They need to set up like they did in 2012 Super Bowl run; win the division and start off with a playoff home game in the wild card round then go on the road in the last two to get to the big dance.

Don't worry, if we don't win the division we probably won't make the playoffs!!

Hey Ravens wouldn't it be nice to have the W against the Raiders and the Jets right about now - two teams we should have beat!!!! Always making it harder on themselves by committing stupid mistakes.

14 hours ago, fluffy201 said:

Lets get over the whole super bowl MVP thing. That's 4 years ago. He is playing like a high school quarterback as of late. I wish people would stop referring to past performance.

HAHAHA, haven't been around long have you?  Most of today's society is predicated on past performance - it's the only thing we can measure future performance on.  Offensively we are scoring more points on average yet our defense is giving up more points on average and it's the offenses, more directly Flacco's, fault when we lose.  Maybe if the defense wouldn't have let the Eagles march up and down the field, maybe if they would have gotten a couple more 3rd down stops...

7 hours ago, Fastynart said:

The Ravens were lucky when the Eagles went for 2. If they had tied the game, the Ravens would have lost in overtime. The defense was abominable, letting the Eagles march the ball down the field on consecutive possessions. Even their run defense stunk it up. Gaping holes allowed Eagles runners first downs on runs up the middle. If Flacco makes the same kind of errors against the Steelers that he did against the Eagles the Ravens will be done before half time. His stupid fumble and even worse interception gave the Eagles 14 points, well 13 points. I don't know who is dumber, Flacco or Harbaugh.

HIs stupid fumble was due to lack of pass protection by the O Line; people want Joe to stand in the pocket and deliver a strike - well the pocket can't collapse and its obvious the receivers need to do a better job getting separation!!! 

6 hours ago, smalljaws said:

Luck had nothing to do with the defeat of the Iggles. Execution with the game on the line did. One down and one to go for the Keystone sweep.

No, we got lucky with Mosley's tipped ball because the receiver had the inside leverage on Powers.  Had Mosley not tipped the ball we would have lost.  Now you want to talk about execution - was it execution that let the Eagles drive 70 yards and be put in that situation?!?!?!?!?

10 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Squealers vs. Ravens. On Christmas Day. For the Division. Does it get any better than that?

Well, you only get to watch it if you have the NFL network - which means most Ravens fans can't watch this game. Shame on you NFL & the Raven's Organization! Stevie B made a fortune being on the cutting edge of progress, now his organization and the NFL are living in the past hoping to keep ratings up for bigger TV deals. Get with the 21st century - we stream, we Netflix, we Hulu and if you force us to pick between watching the Ravens and paying $250 a month for a bloated Cable package, you're going to lose ratings and alienate fans. That's a flawed business model.

#GreedyNFL #CubanWasRight #HogsGetSlaughtered

You're seriously blaming the Ravens when the NFL dictates this - that's why it's on NFL NETWORK!!  Most of the Ravens games are still broadcasted on local channels in the Baltimore viewing market.  Maybe they will stream it on the site...

1 hour ago, KidNme said:

Joe can check out of a play and has done it more than once so there is some decision making allowed by him. So you're saying Joe had the ability to change or make play calls in 2012 but we took that away from him after him winning the AFC and SB in doing so that year? (Not sure how you got that inside information). They don't share that info with us but I guess you have a special bond with Harbs so by all means, continue to enlighten us all with your infinite wisdom.

I guess you totally didn't hear Joe's press conference did you?  Plus, it's been stated time and time again by offensive players that they run the play that is called. 

1 hour ago, BiggMack91 said:

i want to see more of chris moore on the offense he looks like a playmaker but are defense is getting weak stop putting suggs on the edge make him a DE stop playing 4-3 put Timmy Brandon Terrell on the line rotate blitzing LB an for god sakes press at the line if you jam them for 2-3 seconds that would be sacks not hurries

Not going to happen; did you see his fumble on the k/o return??  You know Harbs hates fumblers!!

24 minutes ago, Crusader said:

I don't blame Joe but this is insane.
Sep. 27, 2016
3tied. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens — $29,000,000
Position: Quarterback
2016 earnings breakdown: $4.0 million salary, $25.0 million signing bonus
One thing to know: Flacco restructured his last contract, basically turning his 2013 contract into a nine-year, $187 million deal with six years remaining.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-highest-paid-players-by-team-2016-9/#5-tom-brady-new-england-patriots--28764705-28

Flacco's cap hit 2016 is $22,500,00

Matt Ryan cap hit 2016 is $23,750,000 - how many Superbowls has he won?  How many playoff wins does he have?  He does however and has his entire career been throwing to HOF TE Gonzalez; Roddy White and Julio Jones....

Matthew Stafford cap hit 2016 is $22,500,000 - what's he won?  He had Megatron his entire career and what was he able to accomplish???

Romo cap hit is $20 million to be a back-up!!!!!!

Ravens organization had the opportunity to contract Joe before the Superbowl and they waited, their fault!!!  Had they of not given Joe that contract his FA year he would have received it from another team.  Look at what Texans gave Osweiler and what it good heaven has he ever done???

All of you fans that complain about Joe's salary; what did you expect to pay a QB who had his wins and playoff appearances and then who tied the best post season record in history of the NFL, super bowl winning QB and SB MVP???

Who would you prefer and how much would you be willing to pay them???????

1 hour ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

So we're paying 120mil for a puppet? He should have autonomy at the line to some degree, you know being as though he's a 9 yr QB

Autonomy at the line - he's had 8 different lines this year alone.  I think this was maybe the 2nd game in a row with the same linemen...

If your own HEAD COACH thinks a play is a bad idea but allows it anyway, then that's on you. Also on Joe for not switching up at the time and just blindly agreeing with it, especially since we were actually running the ball all the day and our offense actually moved a bit better than last week.

Think back to the Seahawks-Pats Superbowl if you wanna see how throwing that close to the goal line near the end of a game worked out....

That is not the way the offense is run - not sure what you people don't understand - JOE RUNS THE PLAY AS CALLED - this offense has always done that and will continue to. The only time Joe seemed to have the decision making authority was in the 2012 playoffs. Other than that, the play that is sent in is the play that is ran. That's not up to Joe, that's up to the head coach!!

  57 minutes ago, J.O.14 said:

  4 hours ago, steelraven said:

  6 hours ago, Ravens8383 said:

  9 hours ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

What Ravens have you been watching for the past 20 years? This team is about nose to nose, down to the wire, fight to the end, never say never football!
The Ravens have always been a fiery, defensive, in the trenches, competitive team that did one of two things, either they rise to the level of play of their opponent or the bring out the best in the level of play of the opponent that they face! That is Ravens football and I for one respect it and enjoy it.

Amen!! I can not remember a time when someone said the Ravens have a hire power offense. This team has been about one thing since they moved to Baltimore and that is winning ulgy games and doing it with defense!

Then why pay Flacco all that money instead of spending it on the defense? Flacco should be put in jail for stealing all that money he's being paid. You don't get paid for what you did in the past, you get paid for what you should do in the future and since being paid twice after the super bowl and the extension he's done nothing but collect a check every week. But I can blame him though, I blame Ozzie. He gambles too much and now it's costing them.

But you do pay QBs for what they do in the past. You can complain about Flacco's pay all you want, if you have a DECENT QB, they are going to get paid a lot of money. You don't let a QB go after he just had one of the best post seasons ever. The going rate for QBs is ridiculous, and it's only going to get worse. Imagine being the Texans right now.

But did they have to pay him so much that the team suffers for years? Ravens won both Superbowl's not paying a Kings Ransom. Joe's not worth being the 4 highest paid QB in the NFL.Notice how quickly the Ravens fell out of serious contention when he got paid?

No, it is not because Flacco got paid as to why they fell out of contention. Two of the all time greatest players also left the defense!!!

“Even if we’re up 10 points, or 21 points, I’m thinking, ‘It’s going to come down to the nitty and gritty,”

Why, why - if we are up 10 or 21 points why must it come down to the final possession or final play? Why can we not put teams away and close the game? I could see if the defense was ranked below 20th but when you supposedly are the #1 defense in the league why are you giving up so many big plays and putting the team in this position? Is it coaching, the bend but don't break mentality that the current DC has - whatever it is it needs to stop immediately because the Steelers and Bengals game won't have the same outcome!!

5 hours ago, PoeDinkum said:

True, true. Dude has the resume to audible, or throw it away though. Dumb play call, even dumber execution.

 they don't play that type of offense, yeah Joe can and sometimes does that's not what the offend does.  Joe is actually on pace to finally throw 4k yds.  I agree man definitely horrible play calling and even worst execution.  Enough with the excuses and we'll do a better job next week BC there might not be a next week.  

5 hours ago, terrynjulia03 said:

Why are people blaming the offense and Joe. They didn't give up over a hundred yards to the Eagles. 

Defense got ran over today, when they needed to get off the field they could not do it.

5 hours ago, drillem said:

run, followed by run, followed by run

...Go until we stop it but we cldnt 

4 hours ago, Zeus said:

How do we allow that? How? Please tell me

Have no clue but I know it starts with coaching and both the oc and DC have horrible game plans and I'm about tires of harbs hindsight excuse as the HC he needs to start taking the reigns.  Did he he not learn how to call an offensive game from Reid all those years in Philly?

4 hours ago, RavensFanInCA said:

Which ref is Ertz related to? How's he getting these calls?

I know, it's ridiculous but I feel if our TE s tried it would be offensive pi 

4 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

If I could have a minute with Joe and Marty, I would ask him exactly what they were thinking on that play. I'm totally fumed. 

Ask Marty what he was thinking BC all Joe has to say is I'm running the play thats called

4 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Its over folks. Its time to fire the offense.

Definitely be looking for a new OC!!!

4 hours ago, Dr. Kelley said:

We are ranked high because we played bad offenses that had trouble moving the ball.  When this defense needs a stop, they are nowhere to be found

Bend but don't - too late....

4 hours ago, Adreme said:

So is 27 points not enough to win with the top ranked defense anymore?

Starting to look that way...

4 hours ago, ludy51 said:

Why did he not engage!!!!????

I screamed that at the TV, ridiculous

4 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

We need a new OC. 

Agreed, even the announcers were questioning the play calling

4 hours ago, Go-Deep said:

Suggs was supposed to contain 

Yeah I think he ran a stunt up the middle and got beat on it

4 hours ago, Ravengirl11 said:

Worst win ever

That was hilarious!!! I honestly laughed out loud thanks!

IMO, I agree with #89's actions and comments - receivers have been getting a lot of flack for not catching balls and now #89 is speaking out and telling his QB to get his act right!! Which is about time!!!

We need the OL to step up and most importantly Flacco needs to step up!!!

3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

No, my original point was never putting it on Flacco. Not sure how anybody could have thought that.

ONE of my posts puts a lot of the offenses problems in that particular game on Joe being erratic with his accuracy and doing a terrible job of working through his progressions.

I agree that our receivers are not good at creating separation consistently, but lets also not pretend that one image from one play summarizes the offense for the entire day.

Specifically, I've been told a lot on these boards that literally all Joe needs is time and space to throw. There is no argument that he didn't get that in the Patriots game. And when he did, highly unimpressive.

Not sure what game you were watching; ok maybe Joe did have another second to throw but to who?  Our receivers weren't able to beat the zone coverage and get open, that's why he checked it down.  Could you not see him start from the left and progress to the right and then check down.  Joe can't make these receivers get open, that's something they either now how to do or they don't and right now #89 is the only one (IMO) smart enough to do that.

16 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

OK but its the biggest fan fallacy around... when the offense is humming its a great game plan and scheme, and when its struggling, its a bad game plan and scheme.
 

Not really, it's more like when the offense is humming its a great game plan and scheme and when its struggling - its Flacco's fault, he sucks, we need to get rid of him, he's no good blah blah blah.  (not my opinion, just what I read on here by damn near everyone else)

Joe is not the problem, it's the entire cast of characters on the offensive side of the ball that play too inconsistent.

Take away #89 and #88 and the offense struggles because nobody else steps up.

That said, I will say that NE had a much better game plan than we did; they had an answer for everything we did on both sides of the ball.  As for us, we yet again failed to make any in game adjustments and that's 100% on the coaching for a crappy game plan!!!

17 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Depends on the situation. In some cases its Joe's fault... not putting the ball in a place where a receiver can get YAC. In other cases its the receivers who don't take good enough routes to the sticks or don't fight hard enough for it.

I also know multiple times where Joe has completed a pass short of the sticks to a receiver and they HAVE gotten the first down. Its not an all or nothing proposition.

The Ninkovich sack is a good indication of my point... every single one of our receivers is at or beyond the line of gain, and yet none of them are open. Why is that? Why do you think there are four defenders within like a yard or two of where the 1st down marker is?

I believe your original point was putting the onus completely on Flacco for the inability of our receivers to (a) catch the ball (b) get YAC (c) find soft spots in coverage (d) get open - it's just like everyone else, blame Flacco for everything.  People want Joe to stand in the pocket, he stood in the "pocket" as it collapsed while four receivers stood next to their defender; now everyone is saying he should have rolled out - which is it, do you want him to stand in the pocket or get happy feet and roll out and try to make a play...

  1 hour ago, Minionhunter said:

  2 hours ago, OriolesMagicPlease said:

  2 hours ago, MadStorkSociety said:

Thought the same thing. Four guys all at the first down marker. We have speedsters, one of them should be heading for the endzone corner.

Yet so many want to blame Joe. Team sport!

Yes, everyone even supposedly unbiased national reporters still blame Joe for poor offensive coordinator game plans. I swear the game plan was MM making a statement that he was in charge and not Joe. All the coordinator changes has got to be killing Joe, no consistency and stability. Harbs is still paying for not Firing Trestman at the end of last year. Harbs MUST be Savage this year and gut the entire offensive coaching system and get in someone who can fix both Joe and the line (Bobby might be the only safe guy, but still when you have everyone stopping short of the sticks, you would think that he should be coaching the guys up to get beyone that and not on the same parallel line); and then they need to stay for multiple years.

So when its poor mechanics and erratic accuracy (which it mostly was on Monday night), you can't blame coaches. There's just no logic behind it.

And for the millionth time, the reason why receivers can't just "run to the sticks" and catch a pass is because there's a thing called an opposing defense.

Said opposing defense just so happens to also know precisely where the 1st down marker is. And you know what smart defenses do? Flood that line. Go back and watch film of the Patriots schemes on 3rd down. Guess what you'll see an absolute ton of? A bunch of Patriots guys surrounding the line of gain.

And the fan strategy is to throw directly into those guys. Speaking of bad game plans... that one takes the cake.

You also could look at the other offense. They have a QB who is going to the HOF, based frequently on throwing to receivers who are well short of the first down marker on 3rd down and still manage to get a 1st down.

You also could look at the other offense. They have a QB who is going to the HOF, based frequently on throwing to receivers who are well short of the first down marker on 3rd down and still manage to get a 1st down.

Ummm, I'm pretty sure Joe has thrown balls to receivers short of the first down and the difference being our receivers don't get the first down. So is that Joe's fault or the receivers fault.

What do you take from the pic of Niko's sack?