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15 minutes ago, Kid87 said:

Who do you think we get if all those guys are gone ?

I would much rather have Tunsil, Zeke, or VH3 over Buckner.

The answer is obvious... whoever the Ravens draft lol. Seriously though the fist prospect I thought of was VH3 I feel like he will be able to come away with a lot of INTs this year.

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

You do realize that there was virtually no difference in snap counts between Upshaw and Dumervil correct? Pass rush specialists are playing at least half the snaps.

And what makes you think Bosa will be a quality inside rusher?

Maybe last season when suggs was injured so he had to play more snaps, but not when they were both healthy, and regardless he would play more snaps than Upshaw because he wouldn't come off on passing downs like Upshaw did.

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

1. He wouldn't be the first top 10 pick who didn't play every snap his rookie season.

2. We still have Suggs and Dumervil, and I doubt either is going to instantly become a backup player. You might see both take less snaps, but its not like Suggs is only going to be on the field 1/3rd of the time. Outside rushers on our team only play like 60-70% of the snaps anyway, so I wouldn't expect Bosa to do much more than that.

In 2-3 years, possibly. Not in year 1. As far as Ramsey, he is likely going to join the long list of highly touted, highly talented rookie corners who struggle in year 1, so I doubt we are going to line him up outside and say "good luck". 

Dumervil would absolutely become a back up player like he did when we had Suggs and Upshaw on the field at the sane time. He will ideally be used as a pass rush specialist and Bosa would be on for run downs then probably kicked inside on passing downs to get inside rush while suggs and doom come off the edge.

3 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

Someone tell me where to go to apply for McShay's job! Why would we pick Stanley if Tunsil is STILL available???

"In Todd McShay's latest mock draft, three of the top prospects -- Ole Miss offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil, Oregon defensive end DeForest Buckner and UCLA linebacker Myles Jack -- are all available when the Baltimore Ravens are on the clock with the No. 6 overall pick.

So whom do the Ravens select? McShay has Baltimore going with Notre Dame offensive tackle Ronnie Stanley."

 

I'm pretty sure I'd break my tv if this happened.

I really hope we get to see Jimmy at 100% for this entire season. As we've seen before he can erase the other teams best receiver.

I would actually love it if we took a chance on Jaylon Smith in the 4th.

13 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Tunsil would start at LG and swing to LT when Monroe gets hurt. Bosa more than likely would be a 3 down defender because he is a quality 3 down player, Ramsey offers too much upside at a position that were desperate to fill and he would have to really screw up to only be a nickel corner. 

 

Youd be crazy to think our 6th overall pick will be a backup rotational guy. This isn't the 26-32nd overall picks we've had recently.

Even Jimmy Smith at 27 was gonna start the season if it wasn't for the high ankle sprain.

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

It would depend on his health, but I would because he can be a dominant LG and swing out to RT when Wagner leaves 

And the same argument can't be made for the Jags? They're obviously not planning to keep Joeckel around very long.

4 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I'd disagree. Had he not torn his ACL, I'm sure the Ravens woukd have loved to re-sign him. He was playing really well.

So if we had signed Beachum you wouldn't want to draft Tunsil?

1 minute ago, Deflated Football said:

They recently added Beachum.

Right but he's not a franchise left tackle by any means. I hope Tunsil fall to us but I think there's a pretty good chance that the Jags take him, at least more of a chance than people think.

1 hour ago, Jacquouille said:

If SD prefers Ramsey over Tunsil, neither Dallas nor Jax will choose him. They're both set at the position and paid a heavy price for their respective LT.

Didn't Jax draft Joeckel while they still had Monroe? What's to stop them from doing that again?

14 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I don't see Bosa for the Chargers. I am telling you, in my humble opinion here, it's going to be Tunsil or Buckner. I don't buy the hype of the Chargers taking Ramsey. Yeah, it could happen, but I see SD taking Buckner or Tunsil for their trenches. I don't see another possibility. I highly doubt SD takes Bosa. 

I meant Tunsil or Bosa for the Ravens. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

I just can't believe we have a shot at Tunsil. I am starting to buy into the hype people are selling and I think it's very possible. I think SD takes Buckner, Dallas goes Ramsey, Jacksonville takes Myles Jack, and the Ravens take Laremy Tunsil

I think right now the most realistic picks are Tunsil or Bosa. If SD doesn't take Tunsil there's a very real possibility that he falls.

1 minute ago, trevorsteadman said:

You could make the argument if Tunsil is drafted and outperforms Monroe that Monroe will be our LG next year... BPA. Next.

My same exact thought. Why wouldn't we just move Monroe to LG...

Yea if Tunsil is there I think he's definitely the pick, but especially with the recent trades there's no way we take Stanley.

Have you guys seen this article suggesting that we shouldn't draft Tunsil if he's available at #6?

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2016/4/21/11477144/2016-nfl-draft-tunsil-could-very-well-end-up-being-a-left-guard-if

I think Buckner going before us along with the two QB's would be ideal! IMO that would mean that 3 players the Ravens wouldn't draft anyways off the board!

7 minutes ago, sflegend89 said:

 

That's just not a logical statement. You're inferring that all height-weight ratios are created equal when in fact they're not. I use the word "frame" very specifically. If you saw Webb and Weddle stand side by side in real life you would see two distinctly different body types. The number on the scale doesn't tell the story of someone's body composition. You're body composition is entirely genetic, things like bone density, muscle insertion points, ect. play a major role in your durability as an athlete as well as your ability to generate force and your center of gravity. If there is no correlation between body composition and tackling ability then why are the best tacklers in the NFL exclusively LB's/S's, if there is no correlation shouldn't many corners be just as effective tacklers as their larger framed counterparts?

I'm also curious why Webb was drafted to play corner? If he played safety in college, supposedly has the frame to play safety in the NFL, why would we put him through an unnecessary transition to a new position? Was it perhaps that we didn't think he had the frame to play safety in the NFL. My point is just that we shouldn't assume we have a sure fire starter at FS, I'm highly skeptical of the long term success Webb is going to have at FS dealing with the cumulative, physical nature of an NFL season at an even more physically demanding position.

I don't think anyone is assuming he's a sure thing, but just pointing out that there is reason to be optimistic. I think you're right about whether he'll hold up or not, but he has shown himself to be a willing tackler, and I think he will be fine in coverage with everything being in front of him.

32 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Demarcus Lawrence is facing a drug suspension, I think Bosa is going to Dallas.

If that makes Ramsey fall down the board or Tunsil I'm all for it!

Other teams not converting their corners might also have to due with the fact that their corners are actually still good at corner.

Just now, sflegend89 said:

I think we would all be shocked. But I also feel like the Ravens are absolute sticklers about taking BPA. I can definitely envision Elliott being higher on our board than Bosa. Elliott is a complete RB, I think he transforms our offense and we'll hit defense hard in rounds 2-4.

I've started to entertain the idea that we like Elliot a lot more than we let on but still idk over Bosa but I agree 100%

wow do these teams really believe that these QB's will be enough of a difference that they are giving up so many picks? I mean I know QB is important and I haven't really watched tape on these guys but from what I've read they're nothing special

I would be absolutely shocked by this pick with Bosa still on the board, but I wouldn't be mad I absolutely love Zeke and I think he will absolutely be a special player!!

In order for us to trade back I think it would have to be that Bosa, Jack, Ramsey, and Tunsil are all gone at our pick, in which case we would trade back somewhere that we could still pick Hargreaves or Zeke. If even one of those players is still on the board I think we stay put unless the trade involves a future first rounder along with a 2nd pick this year.