I agree with John to an extent. True we're not scoring touchdowns which is the major problem. The question is why? It comes back to offensive penalties that kill drives. You're going to complete 3rd and forever often. So, yes, TDs is the problem but penalties are the contributing factor why drives are stalling and prohibiting the ability to score TDs. Play calling was an issue but the balance has returned. As far as not taking points or "chasing points" I agree with John E completely here. The Ravens have far too long been reliant upon Justin Tucker. Best kicker in the league? Absolutely, but I'm not sending him out there on 4th and a foot. If you can't get a foot that's an offensive line issue. You just got punked and owned up front, period. If I'm Harbs I'm going for it too. That's a situation where you as a player need to man up and beat the man across from you. Lastly, I have no issues with John being aggressive. The fake FG was a good call and we would be singing the praises of a Belichick-type gutsy call. As Harbs said, nobody is complaining about the 4th down from their own 35 because they got it and subsequently scored a TD no less. You only hear and complain about the ones they don't get. We're 3-3 and it's not the end of the world. Not to mention 2 of the losses came to non-conference play. If you have to take a loss those the best ones to take. It's time for players to play "pissed-off" and with an edge that doesn't cross over to penalties. That's truly what this team needs- some nasty!