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  29 minutes ago, ruebear said:

I like how nobody has commented on my quote that only 2 tackles taken in the top 10 of the NFL draft have won Super Bowls in the last 20 years. Sorry, there is no saving the draft unless Ozzie finds the diamond in the ruff that nobody has taken a chance on and he changes the defense.

I had to make an account just to reply to this. I'm from england I'm hardly clued up on this as I've only been following the ravens for 6 years. But with a quick bit of research Russell okung was taken by the seahawks at #6 in the draft and just outside of the top 10 clady was taken by the broncos at #12 so. Just from the last 3 superbowls high pick tackles were playing for the champions.

 

Edit: mckinnie for us was taken 7th overall...

Add Jonathan Ogden, Baltimore Ravens first pick ever at #4 pick over all, Hall of Famer and Super Bowl winning LT.

  19 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:

  29 minutes ago, ruebear said:

I like how nobody has commented on my quote that only 2 tackles taken in the top 10 of the NFL draft have won Super Bowls in the last 20 years. Sorry, there is no saving the draft unless Ozzie finds the diamond in the ruff that nobody has taken a chance on and he changes the defense.

i can say many bad LT have ruined QB's careers.....Who was our LT when Flacco went down??? Hurst.....Did you see the money teams were willing to pay for a top LT free agency??? Solid LT do matter....

Who were the LT for the last 10 Super Bowl Champions?
Ryan Harris 3rd round
Nate Solder 1st round 17th pick(2011, won 2014)
Paul McQuistan 3rd round
Michael Oher 1st round 23rd pick(2009, won 2012)
Will Beatty 2nd round
Chad Clifton 2nd round
Jermond Bushrod 4th round
Max Starks 3rd round
David Diehl 5th round
Tarik Glenn 1st round 19th pick(1997, won in 2006)

Game Changers!!!!!

Oher played RT in SB, Bryant McKinnie was the Ravens LT

I love the Ravens but we will be back here next year in the early 20's because we made the playoffs but lost. Offensive tackle in the first round, REALLYYYYYYYY??????????

I guess you forgot about the Ravens first ever draft pick a offensive tackle, one of the greatest Ravens ever and a HOF member. Jonathan Ogden is laughing at you.

Webb should have been FS for the last two years. I said that two years ago, I said that this summer. Now all he has to do is stay healthy.

IMO this is another way of saying their throwing in the towel on the rest of the season. I didn't expect this nor do I condone it, this has turned into a bush league team! How in the world can you evaluate these players when probably half of these guys won't here next year SMH!!!!! Harbaugh blowing smoke.

You can't throw in the towel when you have no towel to throw in. The Ravens have been eliminated it just makes sense to see what you got.

To win this game I think our offense has to do one thing and that is protect the ball. Our defense I truly think can cover this team. Can we win? I think it is a long shot but if we keep it turn over free on our side of the ball and our defense does what it has been doing recently I think we could. I really want this game because I live in Washington and I want the Raven Nation to earn respect this week in Puyallup, WA... Got my Ravens colors on my car, just made a custom computer with a big Ravens shield one one side and other Ravens decals on top, front and around the window on the other side. It also has purple LED fans. I use it, my TV and Sunday Ticket streaming to watch the games. GO RAVENS!!!

This is one of the three games this season to me are must wins. No matter what I hope we at least keep it close, I live in Washington and don't need these Sea Chicken fans running their mouths...

Living in Puyallup, WA I am surrounded by the enemy. The only game out of the games left I want the Ravens to win more is the Steelers. I hope Gillmore can play, not just start but play to his level. Hopefully whoever the other TE's are I hope they can pass and run block. We pretty much lost this season in game one when Suggs was lost. The respect teams had for him pretty much meant they stayed away from his side of the field when they could. It wasn't just his rush but how he could even drop back in coverage, disrupt things and almost always contain the run. I hate to say one player meant so much but that one player meant others didn't have to play as hard and could cover other parts of the field. With all the injuries, the fact that we have still been in every game this season so far losing by 8 points and fighting at the end win or lose. PROUD TO BE A RAVENS FAN!!!

Always good to see a player is still human... RIP to the friend

All good either way it was actually going to be televised here and I wouldn't have had to use my lousy Sunday Ticket Streaming. Not sure how DirecTV does such a bad job streaming football yet NBC and NFL Network seem to get it multi-times better.

I don't get why the NFL gets to have this sort of reach into peoples' personal lives and affect their jobs like this. Manziel is an idiot (or maybe just an alcoholic) for doing this so soon after his other issues, but: he didn't show up to work drunk, didn't do anything illegal, get arrested, anything! He was drinking at a party, period.

It is in their contract, there is a behavior clause because their behavior off the field can lower or raise their image for marketing. Anything the hurts their marketing value hurts the NFL's marketing value which in the end can reduce their profits. 

"He also has a strong understanding of the offensive system Baltimore runs, which is virtually the same scheme that he ran in Houston when Gary Kubiak was the head coach." Stop it!!! Just Stop it!!! You know dang well as I do and everybody else does, this is nothing that even resembles what Kubiak did last year as an offensive scheme. In Kubiaks offense Joe was crisp, his mechanics were on, he would hit his back foot and throw but mostly, we would run to set up the play action and then roll out and run the bootleg. Kubiaks scheme made our front line look great, under Trestman they just collapse. This is Trestmans offense, has been since the first play of the season, and just because the front office decided to feed the media the "this is kubiaks offense" crap to try and throw off other teams doesn't mean that 10 games in you still have to float this logic when even my 12 year old knows better. Please, just stop floating the company line of Kubiaks offense because you really look like you don't know football to those who really do.

Either way it has been a top 10 offense with a losing record. That should tell you most of the problems are on defense. Kubiak or Trestman our offense still has the one problem of finishing a drive off. Even with that, we have only had 3 games this season we scored under 20 points and not one game where in the last 2 or 3 minutes we didn't still have a chance to win the game. We have had a few where in the last few minutes the defense gave up the lead. Everyone wants to cry offense but the season much like last was lost on the secondary but this year also throw in a few times the LBs gave up too much in the middle making it look like the secondary was failing when in fact it was lack of coverage over the middle by LBs.Some of this also can be blamed on lack of a blitz but Suggs missing causes much of that and not by missing his sacks but by missing his coverage of the edge. He did so much more than just blitz but he commanded respect and that made it easier on the other side.

An out-of-the-box idea: in 2016, let's put someone on the Ring of Honor every home game! Why? The last 7 HOF-induction games:

 

Ed Reed's ROH-induction in 2015: STL 13 BAL 16 W

Todd Heap's ROH-induction in 2014: CAR 10 BAL 38 W

Ray Lewis's ROH-induction in 2013: HOU 9 BAL 30 W

Jamal Lewis's ROH-induction in 2012: CLE 16 BAL 23 W

Matt Stover's ROH-induction in 2011: CIN 24 BAL 31 W

Jonathan Ogden's ROH-induction in 2008: OAK 10 BAL 29 W

Peter Boulware's ROH-induction in 2006: CIN 20 BAL 26 W

 

That's 7 W's of 7 games... And we've got McAllister, JJ, Mason, Bart Scott and Matt Birk all ROH-worthy IMHO, plus we could put on the HOF players like Suggs, Yanda, Flacco and Boldin "in-advance" - and that would guarantee us 8 W's for the season

McAllister would have been but I think burned too many bridges, Mason should be, Scott burned bridges, Boldin wasn't here long enough and honestly people give him too much credit for average production while he was here. He never had a great year as a Raven.

I said it and now regret it but when King picked us to win the SB I said this season was doomed.

He should have been on IR from the beginning. I defend our front office and coaches often but the way they handled this is almost unforgivable. Somebody needs to be fired. Sorry you don't risk your first round pick by having him practice that early with partial tear, you sure don't let him try to open it up. This is almost as bad as the Deadskins handled RGIII. You ruin a guy's career with such incompetence.

Sadly I think I learned a lesson this year. I relocated with my family in 2011 to Washington state and up until this year the only way I could see the Ravens play were "illegal" streaming sites. This year DirectTV finally opened up the Sunday Ticket streaming service to my location and I got it. Won't do that again. The service sucks constantly lagging, locking up and disconnecting. ON top of the it was almost $250 for the season. If you add in that this season has totally sucked, I feel like I've been robbed. The NFL needs to get better service online and stop living thirty years in the past as far as broadcast technology. They also need to get rid of ESPN about the worst coverage of football ever. I know the networks need to make money but if they are going to cover football cover football. Stop these clowns from talking like they know what they are talking about and have them talk about the game. Questionable or great plays show replays, multiple replays from different angles and slow motion like you did in the 70's and 80's.

I am so tired of them talking through a questionable play, talking while it is being video reviewed, then going to commercial and never showing a replay of the play in question. I'm really tired of playing good money for a lousy product and that has nothing to do with the Ravens' record and everything to do with sub-par announcers...

...we got so many broken parts, it's hard to know where to start the repairs. Especially since all the parts are inter-dependent on one another to achieve team success. This makes 2 yrs in a row we won't make the play-offs, let's just hope that next year we can get back on track. But first we have to evaluate what we have to see who's worth keeping and who's not. I think the tight-ends are fine, rbs are fine, Juice is fine, Jimmy Smith is rusty but will be fine, Webby (the jury is still out, cause he's gotten burned too many times as of late or has been out of position), Will Hill will be fine, Sizzle will be fine, Dumervil will be fine (if he stops the bonehead plays), Brandon Williams will be fine, Upshaw will be fine, Zadarius Smith will be fine, Kamar Aiken (jury is still out), Gibbons will be fine, Jeremy Zutah will be fine, and Osemele will be fine. Eugene Monroe should be safe, and of course...Marshal Yanda is fine.

Two years in a row? We lost to the Patriots in the playoffs last year.

What astounds me is that Urschel snapped like he had never ever snapped a ball before. I'm not blaming him, but hey coaches why put him in at reserve Center if you thought he wasn't experienced snapping the ball? If you did know that he couldn't snap the ball well but still put him in - Shame on you!

I think it is pretty simple to understand, we kept the WRs, TEs , DBs and RBs you only have so many spots. That was the main reason Urschel is on the team is he is physically able to play most of the o-line. He is the perfect backup when you have limited space for backups. Bad side of that is he isn't a center and never has been so the only practice he really had was training camp. Training camp isn't the same as regular season game play and during the week backups don't get snaps that is why Tyrod was so bad when he used to come into games. In training camp if you are bad at something it often gets hidden because you are playing with backups and players who don't make the team unless you are a starter or regular player on the field. It is what it is...

Just add Jacoby for the veteran minimum... It wouldn't hurt the rate we are going another wide receiver or two will go down. At least he can fly and can kick return for us. He knows the system. Maybe returning to Baltimore is what he needs. He has the Ravens tattooed on his body. It is his home maybe that will give him more inspiration to work harder. The reason we didn't resign him was because paying 3 million for a kick returner was an awful deal. He has had a lot of time with Flacco and has more on his resumthan the other receivers we have.

Jacoby gets too much credit by many on here. He has speed so on the return if he gets a hole and does great. Now the problem is he doesn't make choices that well, too often he returns a ball he should have just took a knee for and gets tackled short of the twenty. He has also muffed too many kicks. Receiving he has never truly been good at. Once again his speed gives him the occasional big play but how often does he drop passes? He doesn't have good hands at all, he even admitted he was a body catcher not a hands catcher. At NFL level you need to be able to catch with your hands or to a QB like Flacco you are just about useless.

well we just sent Steve to IR so we wouldn't have to cut anybody I believe.

We already signed someone in his place.

Far from guaranteed to happen, obviously. How about an errant snap that causes a turnover... think maybe that's a problem?

 

Blocking is priority #2 for a center. Priority #1 is getting the ball to the QB accurately and on time. 

 

Additionally, you also wouldn't want to be judging how well Urschel does by just how he blocks his man. Remember, that half second slower that his ball takes to get there is a half second more that the edge rushers (who aren't being blocked by Urschel) have to get to the QB.

 

He's indirectly causing that pressure without even blocking them.

The turnover didn't happen, the pressure was there the whole game and Urschel is a backup in a position he has never played so we can keep less O-line man and more of other positions we felt were more important. So # wasn't blocking or hiking, it was getting what needed to be done to win that game and he did that with a lot of help. Now #1 is either getting someone else to center or getting him a lot better over the next two weeks at getting the ball to the QB accurately and on time.  

I don't call that a win at all, considering the slow shotgun snaps were so slow that they are costing a good half second on the timing of the routes and the play to begin with.

 

I don't care how well you block at that point. You're throwing off the entire play with those snaps.

Think a defensive player in the QBs face throws off the entire play more. Or worse that defensive player putting the QB on his back.

I think I respect Flacco more and more this season. He hasn't been perfect but when you have one steady target who just got knocked out for the season. If he can keep on pace and slow the INTs he could stat wise still have the best season of his career with no true support compared to the "elite" QBs. More than his play he just has great character and this story proves that. Respect earned...

Too many of us fans look at what this means for the team. I could care less, more importantly it should be what this means for this man. If this is the end and he retires as planned all I can say is thank you for the years I got to watch you play. Even when you were going against us there was always a level of respect for you.

Now to us as fans we hope you return. I hope the reason the coach said what he said is because you made some comment on the field like this can't end this way. No respect lost if you do retire though. I understand the meaning of family as you do and that is just another reason to respect you.

Webb held Fitzgerald to only 3 catches for 39 yrds. That pretty good considering Fitzgerald is having a pro-bowl type yr. That PI call in the end zone was bogus just like most of the calls the refs had.

The end zone call was bogus. I watched that so many times, there was a hook and turn but the play was over when it happened. The ball was already missed so the hook and turn did not stop the receiver from catching the ball.