riseNConquer81

Yes the O line is trash right now, and Wallace and Perriman keep dropping TDs, but Trestman also needed to go.

We dont have any real super stars on offense but there's no talent deficiency either. its ridiculous that we cant score.

  6 hours ago, riseNConquer81 said:

Devin Hester is a wasted roster spot.
return TDs are few and far between for him in recent years. Hasnt gotten one on a kick off since 2011, and hes averaging just about 26 yards on kick off returns over the past 4 years which would be great IF a touchback didnt already net you the 25.
and obviously he's not contributing much on offense.
dumb move. and i thought we were over holding a special spot just for a returner. we really need to be.

Guess you would prefer no one as returner because that was what we had before Hester.

returner isnt some special unique position. you can make literally any player a returner and we're not going to get anything out of Hester we couldnt get from someone else.

  7 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

so you're just gonna ignore the part where he's only gaining one net yard over the default starting spot?

we have plenty of people on the roster who can fair catch...we dont need to give Hester a potential $4M and a roster spot to do that.

Well that's the point. He won't just "Fair Catch" or fumble like the rest of them. He also can fill in as a receiver as he did in Atlanta. He wasn't that bad at that either.

if he's not fair catching, that's a problem. Every ball is not returnable, especially not most punts.

We're loaded at receiver and Hester is terrible as a receiver. The only good plays he's ever made as a receiver were on bubble screens which are basically long hand offs.

He's not getting anywhere near the backfield either, way too deep to throw a 33 year old return man between the tackles.

  6 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

Devin Hester is a wasted roster spot.
return TDs are few and far between for him in recent years. Hasnt gotten one on a kick off since 2011, and hes averaging just about 26 yards on kick off returns over the past 4 years which would be great IF a touchback didnt already net you the 25.
and obviously he's not contributing much on offense.
dumb move. and i thought we were over holding a special spot just for a returner. we really need to be.

It's not about TD's. It is about not muffing the kicks and field position. He is 10 times better than anyone on our roster doing it. Makes perfect sense.

so you're just gonna ignore the part where he's only gaining one net yard over the default starting spot?

we have plenty of people on the roster who can fair catch...we dont need to give Hester a potential $4M and a roster spot to do that.

this dude really only plays special teams and he's on retirement's door step.
$4M for what?!

at least 3 million of it has to be tied to offensive contribution which i dont expect to see.

It gets funny each year when cuts are made or any other big decisions by the front office are made. All full of shock, Doom & gloom like we know what should be done and to whom it should be done to. It has been proven that our F.O knows what they are doing, so lets just sit back and let them do what they do.

fans have been right about Ozzie screwing up before and they inevitably will be again. they're not all uninformed amateurs and he's not perfect.

Devin Hester is a wasted roster spot.
return TDs are few and far between for him in recent years. Hasnt gotten one on a kick off since 2011, and hes averaging just about 26 yards on kick off returns over the past 4 years which would be great IF a touchback didnt already net you the 25.
and obviously he's not contributing much on offense.
dumb move. and i thought we were over holding a special spot just for a returner. we really need to be.

4 hours ago, Mad Puppy said:

I'd prefer to wait for Cordarrelle Patterson to be cut.
Younger, better receiver than Campanaro, and better return man than either Campanaro or Hester (at this point in his career).

Also Tate from Cinci is a possible free agent choice.

vehemently disagree. 
Cordarelle has been relegated to return duty because he's not been a very good receiver at all. 
Mike Wallace, Stefon Diggs, and Chris Johnson all got there AFTER Cordarelle, and he's still behind the 3 of them PLUS Jairus Wright, and Adam Thielsen on the depth chart.

At this point, Cordarelle is only called a receiver because "return specialist" isnt really an official position on a depth chart.

you couldnt get ANYTHING for a starting Left Tackle? smh

8 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

You do realize that Joe played in playoff games BEFORE 2012 correct? Go back and look at some of his earlier one's. Go back and look at what he did in his rookie season playoff performances (well below average by any possible standard). He gets credit for 2 wins that year.  I don't even care if you look at the stats... just watch the games. He's as forgettable as anybody on the field in those games.

Go look at his first playoff game in the 09 season in Foxboro, when the Ravens beat the Patriots 33-14. Go look at what Joe did in that game. Literally nobody on this planet could argue he positively contributed to that victory. Again... given credit for a win for that.

For 30% of Joe Flacco's postseason victories, AT BEST, you could argue he was a replacement level QB, meaning there were many, many backups in the league that could have done exactly what he did and had the exact same outcome. 

Now, since about late 2010, he's been great in the postseason. No debating that. But he hasn't always been great in the postseason. There's just no evidence to support that. Last five years... absolutely. One of the best postseason QBs probably in history in the last five years. 

And yes, Tebow is a "winner", because everywhere he plays, his team wins. He won a ton in college, and he won a large amount of the games he started in the NFL. But at least you made my point for me... "winning" doesn't get you a second contract. Production does. NFL teams don't pay for winners. If they did, they wouldn't hand out $15M a year contracts to DTs and pass rushers who have never won anything. They do that annually.

2 things:
1) Joe couldnt even walk in that game. 
2) WHY are you talking about 2009? 

what importance could anything that happened in Joe's second season possibly have on any conversation that holds any remote relevance?
WHAT exactly are yall talking about? and again, why?

This sounds like an argument for the sake of argument. 

OMG with the 4000 yards again....what an overrated milestone.
we dont play like that. If it never happens i wont give a damn. No one else should either.
we win. thats the important part.

he's obviously not going to wear 19, dont think that even really had to be stated let alone addressed in 2+ paragraphs.

On 5/14/2016 at 10:18 AM, KidNme said:

Didn't make anything up, just my opinion which I stated clearly.
Also, would a team let a player go (Not traded) if he was better than the guys they have? Just makes sense to me, not a fact, just makes sense to me. Powers is no longer on other teams depth charts so that's a moot point.

You cant trade a free agent. 
"Free Agent" means no team has rights to you. 
they didnt let anybody go, he wasnt theirs to let go in the first place. 

On ‎5‎/‎13‎/‎2016 at 5:16 PM, KidNme said:

Always good to have competition and depth at any position and Powers seems like a solid guy however, it depends on for how much. Both Arizona and the colts have a better CB now that he's gone I would imagine, otherwise he would still be there so I'm not thinking he's any more than depth at this point. Also, can we get a CB over 6' for gosh sakes??

Colts have Vontae Davis and who?

Arizona has no idea who they're going to replace Powers with, except maybe Tyrann, but he's pretty committed to playing safety.

its not that hard to look up peoples' depth charts.

isnt this the guy opposite patrick peterson that gets picked on and beat constantly? I hate signing all these weak basic corners

he's constantly knocking down passes and has 4 picks in the last 3 seasons. what are you talking about?

Finally, a corner move i can like.
This kid is plenty capable, i feel good about having him around.
Starting opposite Patrick Peterson is tough.

  1 hour ago, rockhill24 said:

Ravens are proving that they are on a mission, can't wait to see these guys in action.

Don't get too hyped up like i did last year; it's a hard let down. Just looked at PFF top 101 players: Ravens - 1 (Yanda - God bless him), Pats 7, Bengals 5 & Steelers 4. Hope we picked right in the draft this year - lot of misses lately.

this literally means absolutely nothing.

  6 hours ago, riseNConquer81 said:

He asked for guys who made an impact, not just a list of guys who ever played a game.

you cant make an impact if youre not on the field, so anybody you have to write (injury) next to is disqualified.

As for most of the rest of these guys:
Urban, Urschel, Wagner, and Jensen dont make an impact by mere virtue of being on the field.
Our o line was trash last season. If those guys made an impact, it was a negative one. Urban only played 6 games and barely recorded a stat.
Pernell McPhee did not play for us last year.
Neither did Tyrod Taylor. And in the days Tyrod Taylor did play for us, he didnt make any impact. he only played one real game for us. He threw for 149 yards, 0 TDs and a pick. His Total QBR was 62, passer rating 60.

Urban played great on ST. Wagner struggled last year but still made an impact. Urschel started at 2 positions on the OL and played well. Jensen even had a rough start but closed out the season really well. 

BRent Urban recorded 5 assisted tackles and 1 sack.
Thats not an impact.
Brent Urban did not score points or stop the other team from scoring points from special teams.

you cant struggle and make an impact, thats impossible and makes no sense.

you're reaching way too hard here.

  1 hour ago, Run Pass Pass Punt said:

These are the guys setting us up for the next decade? A LT when were paying 7M for the one we have already... and a bunch of special teamers. We use our 1st pick on a guy not rated in the top 15 players in most polls as an insurance policy and then trade away from all the impact players in the 2nd. I was so hyped for this draft now more than likely not a single one of these guys will be starting opening day. I knew those last few meaningless wins were going to cost us. If I see or hear the word "value" one more time I'm going to lose it. Name me 1 Raven selected in the 4th round or later in the last 5 years that made an impact last season.

Zadarius Smith, Buck Allen, Nick Boyle, Urban, Campanaro (before injury), Urschel, Taliaferro (before injury), Juszczyk, Ricky Wagner, Ryan Jensen, (Pernell McPhee, Tyrod Taylor count as last 5 years too)

He asked for guys who made an impact, not just a list of guys who ever played a game.

you cant make an impact if youre not on the field, so anybody you have to write (injury) next to is disqualified.

As for most of the rest of these guys:
Urban, Urschel, Wagner, and Jensen dont make an impact by mere virtue of being on the field.
Our o line was trash last season. If those guys made an impact, it was a negative one. Urban only played 6 games and barely recorded a stat.
Pernell McPhee did not play for us last year.
Neither did Tyrod Taylor. And in the days Tyrod Taylor did play for us, he didnt make any impact. he only played one real game for us. He threw for 149 yards, 0 TDs and a pick. His Total QBR was 62, passer rating 60.

we have WAY too many RBs.
wish theyd treat the WR position like this where we actually need 6 or 7 guys.

Overdrafting a dude who would have been there in the 6th. He would have been there that late because he's a not so fast speed threat that can do nothing but run 9s and drop footballs. That Ravens belief that their coaching staff can consistently craft every raw player into a starter is going to bite us again. If not for Flacco this team wouldn't have gone above 4-12 any season after the superbowl.

we have 5 4th round picks, an dyoure nuts if you expect any of them to be spectacular on any level. it hardly matters

Sounds like Demetrius Williams.
lets hope im wrong.

Yay! All set to pick up 7 more project players that won't pan out and will have us at 5-11 again in a couple years.

  On 4/19/2016 at 4:01 PM, riseNConquer81 said:

how do the raiders and cardinals get yellow uniforms? and the lions black? that makes no sense.

also, i hope they figured something out for all the poor color blind people who went straight back to the 1950s every thursday last season.

That's why their "color rush", so teams can try something different. Although to be honest, I thought most of them were horrible. Hopefully the Ravens can pull off using MD state flag colors, but if their anything like those horrid uniforms we wore against KC I may have to turn off the TV and listen to them on the radio.UGLY!!!

its got a lot more to do with breaking the monotony of over used colors like blue, white, and black; at least one of each you can find in pretty much every NFL color scheme.

Al the color rush uniforms have featured colors that are actually associated with the team wearing them, typically giving an accent color the full spot light instead of the team's usual primary color.

seems like the Raiders used to have some gold in their logo once upon a time.
fine whatever.
The Lions and the Cardinals still dont make sense though.

how do the raiders and cardinals get yellow uniforms? and the lions black? that makes no sense.

also, i hope they figured something out for all the poor color blind people who went straight back to the 1950s every thursday last season.