On 1/4/2017 at 5:27 PM, jimmypowder said:Look if Joe had Leveon Bell and Antonio Brown he would beat the Patsies and be on his way to the Super Bowl this year
even though he is not fully recovered from the knee injuries.
Joe could have them both and still be terrible, because he only sees Pitta on the field most of the time.
On 12/29/2016 at 2:17 AM, Ravens4Real said:To the person who made this thread, pathetic.
The last sentence is also hilarious. "If we can carry Joe to the playoffs", the guys is getting paid $20 million a year. Should anyone be having to carry him to the playoffs??
lmao finally a real post !!!!
On 1/23/2017 at 8:10 PM, codizzle said:Zuttahs making the pro bowl..
Time to end the pro bowl
before Flacco no doubt
On 1/14/2017 at 8:14 PM, rmcjacket23 said:So wouldn't the team of a "good" QB not be concerned about guaranteeing money for a QB who is actually "good"? I mean we're only talking about like, what, $30M guaranteed? Practically chump change for even a "game manager" by NFL standards. So what exactly are they afraid of?
So when the Bills voluntarily don't pick up his option, and make him a FA, what will your explanation for that decision be then?
Can you give me the recent names of "good" QBs who actually ever hit free agency? Would be highly interested in getting the names of those players.
Look forward to that list.
Thanks
Can we put Flacco on that list? I'm really curious how many teams would want him at his current contract.
The reason we are stuck with him is because nobody in the league will take him at his current number.
4 hours ago, K-Dog said:"The Joe Flacco dump thread"
Why even come in here if you dont want to discuss Flacco? Flacco is the topic of the thread and to be brutally honest the guy isn't very good at all. He capitalized of the best playoff run that any QB has had in history. We paid him like those numbers would manifest again at some point in his career. He is the epitome of overrated and overpaid.
1 minute ago, Militant X 1 said:In the past, I've seen Sean Peyton and Drew Brees going over the gameplan for their upcoming opponents. Peyton would constantly ask Drew which plays that he liked and then incorporate them into the game plan. And now, I just saw Bellichick and Brady doing the same thing in a clip on the NFL Network. Sincere question; I wonder if Harbaugh does that with Joe?
I doubt it. They say he is smart. Yet he runs college plays. The man needs a lot of help. To get the help he needs he has to take a paycut or get off our team. It's that simple.
44 minutes ago, JonnyBaltimore said:It's actually not that far fetched. Taylor has also 1100 yards rushing and another 10 TDs. He threw more TDs and less INTs. I'm not saying I'd rather have Taylor over Flacco to build a franchise but the numbers do not lie.
In the regular season, Flacco is more like Jay Cutler than he is like anything that resembles "elite". Flacco's best attributes is that he plays well in the clutch--a rare attribute. Unfortunately if he doesn't play in any big games, he is rather pedestrian and the numbers support that. In fact, Jay Cutler's career QBR rating is higher than Flacco's. That I find comical.
Facts:
-Taylor has more WINs the last 2 years
-Taylor has more Pro Bowl nods
-Taylor has thrown more TDs (despite less passing attempts)
-Taylor has thrown less INTs
-Taylor has rushed for over 1100 yards
-Taylor has rushed for 10 TDs
-Taylor has a higher QBR rating over the last 2 years (he is top 10 in QBR rating)
The reason the Bills benched Taylor is because of financial reasons and the guaranteed money in his contract, plus the fact that they have new coaching next year.
Again your argument or lack thereof of one is not a very convincing one.
This....... They cant believe it because Flacco was suppose to be so much better. LMAO.......
Flacco wished he could play like this.
Scrambling QB's anyone?????
Eric get in the weight room! You dont have time to comment on your former team. Your stats were less than stellar for a strong safety. While i appreciate your picks all the assisted tackles has me bummed. Piling on is no way to make a living at safety. Get it together.
I think we need a better strong safety and free safety. Eric weddle is above average but with all his assisted tackles and not enough solo tackles makes me wonder if his best years are behind him. Ladarius Webb is a better tackler than Weddle but Weddle is better at picking the ball off. Maybe their roles need to be reversed. I truly dont like either of them manning the back end. I need some pop at safety.
On 12/29/2016 at 1:42 PM, The Raven said:Brandon Williams was driven five yards downfield on one man blocks by the Patriots and by the Eagles. I haven't seen him regularly double teamed in quite some time. That doesn't happen to supposedly top five nose tackles.
He will be overpaid by some other team. It it not in our best interest to overpay a run stuffing defensive tackle that doesn't command double teams nor provide anything resembling a pass rush. It's 2016, not 1916. We need someone who can do more than be big.
I know the Ravens PR machine likes to make it look like Williams is always doubled, but it has become increasingly rare in recent weeks. Instead of doubling Williams, guards are going straight up to linebackers. I don't know why, but Williams has been mediocre for the past month.
By the way, were you ever going to respond to my question in the Flacco thread about Joe's giant cap hit, if we were to cut him? You seem to have ignored it.
Brandon williams stats are on par with last season. I dont see any issues in his game. He's been healthy and he's a model Raven. You talk about being pushed into the linebackers?
That's what happens to a good defense when the offense is so inept.
Our defense is priority for me. Our offense will never strike fear in the hearts of any defense unless we develop a stellar running game (which is likely) because throwing the ball is not our strong suit.
Debating Flacco should be almost automatic at this point. He doesn't bring the IT factor to the game and he doesn't deserve to get paid like he does. At this point i could care less how we offload him, just get him outta here.
12 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:Are you serious? Lol.
I'm not even seeing how or why this is funny anymore. Tyrod is outplaying Flacco. End of story!
On 1/13/2017 at 1:51 AM, JonnyBaltimore said:http://www.nfl.com/player/tyrodtaylor/2495240/careerstats
http://www.nfl.com/player/joeflacco/382/careerstats
AVG for last 2 years:
QBR rating Taylor 95.0
QBR rating Flacco 83.0
TDs / Ints
Taylor 37TD/12Ints
Flacco 34TD/27Ints
Taylor also had 1100 yards rushing for another 10 TDs and 1 Pro Bowl selection.
Hey I will take Taylor in the regular season and Flacco in the playoffs.
This pretty much sums it up. Joe is who we thought he was. Average QB that can AT TIMES elevate his game during the playoffs. Not really earth shattering numbers being put up. This in a season were he has thrown more balls then any other QB in football and still has pedestrian numbers.
On 1/9/2017 at 6:59 PM, The Raven said:So, you can't name a single quarterback who can thrive without a solid supporting cast, nor do you even attempt to.
Folks, this is all wrapped up.
CAM???? Done Deal????? His supporting cast was terrible
6 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:I do think part of our inability to beat blitzes is down to the weird inability of our offence to ever set up a good screen - they always seem to get blown up/ read or they only go for nominal gains
That's because we constantly play five yards down the field.
For Flacco to have such a big arm, defenses play him shallow. I really dont think any defense is threatened by JOE FLACCO!
On 1/5/2017 at 5:21 PM, Ravenseconbeast said:To those that wanted facts on Joe Flacco being inefficient:
http://www.espn.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/32522/ravens-cant-win-with-joe-flacco-being-the-nfls-most-inefficient-quarterback
Noone will read anything negative about Flacco. It's right there in their face. Flacco doesn't need another year on this team being the absolute starter. He needs a legitimate backup to push him. His game is garbage.
On 1/9/2017 at 7:33 PM, Ravensfan23 said:Julio Jones played in 14 games, had 83rec 14,000yds and 6TDs. 14 out of 16 games isn't missing half the season. Not to mention the 2 games that Julio missed were the 9ers and Rams, I'd hardly call them studs defensively. I give Matt Ryan all the credit in the world for what he's done this season, but if we're calling a spade a spade, well.
Seeing as thought both SSS and Wallace had better production than Sanu and Gabriel i'd say you're right to say SSS and Wallace are better, when you have a freak that can put up 300 yards a single game and often draws double if not triple teams, I'd say it's safe to say he impacts coverage for those guys. Again calling a spade.
This though????
8 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:He was agreeing with you.
You pointed out Sr missed games. He's saying, why would you expect Wallace to be great? He was nothing in Minn/Mia... so if anything his increased production is a testament to Joe, not his lack of production being a knock on Joe.
Because, Wallace isnt suddenly an Odell or Brown type guy whose QB should be expected to easily complete 75 balls for 1,400 yds to.
A rookie QB in Minnesota and Ryan Tannehill is who Flacco draws comparison to.
This is certainly not a testament to Joe.
In fact, I think it sums up his career here in Baltimore. Mediocre!
Defense is us and Defend we must!!!!!
23 minutes ago, Hardbaugh said:The Ravens are 29-29 with Joe Flacco as a starter since he signed for the big money. I hate to say I told you so..... I'd rather be stating the masses were correct. I complained when they gave him that money that he's average, a game manager and to be frank I believe he has some ascending to do to get back to game manager.
The guy has tons of work to do on his game to get average .
I hope the Ravens swallow the pill and draft his successor this draft or next at the latest at the very least it will light a fire . Joe needs to compete for his job just like every other player on the team. Hopefully we see a real competition, sooner the better.
We have been saying all of this all season! Why is our fan Base so Wacko for Flacco? The guy is proving to be a bum at the position. You can bring in any players you want and it wont fix the problem.
I dont think his team respects what he brings to the table for the money he is getting.
An average QB making elite money. Who wants to play on a team like that? You're likely going to get one contract and done. We wont be able to keep our good players. I would keep Williams and let Flacco roll.
We should cut Juice - (special teams player)- not really a hole opener at fullback. we lack playmakers.
The Quarterback stinks for the money he receives
On 12/28/2016 at 8:08 AM, Moderator 3 said:What did Billick ever win without Ray Lewis? LOL!
We could say the same about Harbs....
State of the Ravens!!!!!
Deflate Joe Flacco's Contract !!!!!!
18 hours ago, The Raven said:Considering Brandon Williams looked like a backup for the past four games, and Rick Wagner has been our best offensive lineman for most of the year, yes.
Williams has not earned the contract he will be offered. Rick Wagner has.
You do know that Brandon Williams is anchoring one of the best defensive units in football right? So explain to me how a guy that has to get doubled on almost every play is not earning his contract.
We could stand losing Wagner and a host of offensive weapons, because they are borderline terrible on that side of the ball anyway.
Keep the defense together. Or we will regress again this year. If you pick perhaps another player like Doom instead, i could agree with you. Because I actually like Wagner, he's decent.
Definitely don't let Williams walk.
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I would love to see a poll of how many people today, as opposed to yesteryears, agrees that Flacco should even be on this team moving forward.
The guy has been really bad. He brings no outstanding qualities to the position. His big arm comes to mind here, but he is so inaccurate it doesn't matter.