Raving_Heathen

1 minute ago, sflegend89 said:

consistency at OC (wouldn't mind keeping Marty)

I absolutely do not see Marty being kept as OC. He's literally Trestman 1.1. I'd be less shocked if Harbs was fired than if the Ravens' brass brought back Mornhinweg. The obvious answer is Norv as our next OC. If he'd been our OC this year, we'd probably have a few more wins under our belt.

Perriman is an absolute beast when he has the ball in his hands. He has the size and speed to be a legitimate elite receiver, but his hands definitely aren't the greatest, and Flacco and him are rarely on the same page. Hoping those last 2 things get straightened out next season.

9 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

 

 

if we don't absolutely clean house Harbs, Newsome the whole works I'll be disappointed because we are not sitting on a playoff team for next year or near years to come.

I think that's extreme hyperbole. Even with all of the flaws this team had this year, every single L we had wasn't in the books until late in the 4th. I definitely wouldn't cry if Harbs got fired, but as long as we get a new OC and DC, I have hope we can compete for a SB next year.

7 minutes ago, Moderator 3 said:

Harbaugh just said they're going full tilt to win next week.

I really hope not. Just finish the season healthy and regroup next year. This is truly the epitome of an utterly meaningless game for both sides-- can't even play the role of spoiler.

7 minutes ago, ratedr said:

Clowns are gonna blame the offense for this somehow. The defense is overrated trash. Stop using the Jimmy excuse, he's not the only player on defense. They cannot make a clutch stop to save their lives and haven't since the Super Bowl. If Pees stays another season Harbs needs to go too.

The WRs and TEs are not playmakers, period.

Flacco and the RBs played well, as did the line.

Extremely overrated. Every good offense they've faced this year, they've ultimately rolled over (sometimes on consecutive drives like tonight) when it counted. Steelers scored 3 TDs in the 4th quarter! I don't care if you're the Browns. That's unacceptable. Just dumb luck or probability was on our side to keep them out of the endzone at least once in the 4th, but nope.

10 minutes ago, Dr. Kelley said:

Defense hasn't played well past the first quarter all season. They are not good.

Agreed. They've folded against or been trucked by just about every GOOD offense they've faced all year, especially without Jimmy. Only game where they played well was probably vs Pittsburgh with an injured Roethlisberger. Definitely not anywhere near as good as they're ranked.

All this talk from Harbaugh all week about the Ravens needing to leave everything on the field against the Eagles, and this is the team's response? One of the worst defensive outings of the year against an undermanned O, and continued stupid situational playcalling on offense.

I guess I'm one of the few who actually expect the Ravens to win. This year's team is more talented (I'd probably say much more, at least on paper) on both sides of the ball than the team that took it to the Pats in the 2014 divisional game. The only area where this team is worse is in sacks, but who cares? Not like you're really going to get to Brady anyway, other than maybe Suggs. But we all know the major flaw in that 2014 team was the secondary, and this time we have Jimmy, Tavon Young, and Weddle. On the flip side, no Gronk is obviously huge. I really think the only way the Ravens can lose is if we lose the turnover battle badly or Jimmy gets hurt.

Having said all of that, this game is pretty much a lose-lose proposition for the Ravens in the court of public opinion though. If they beat the Pats, you know the media will put an asterisk on the victory since Brady was missing Gronk and Amendola. And if the Ravens lose in a close game, then similarly the headlines will emphasize that the Pats won despite being "undermanned" or "injured or whatever.

7 hours ago, loveravensfootball said:

Joe Flacco didn't lose the game for us today.

No he didn't. Not at all. But is it unreasonable to expect him to put this team on his back against a questionable pass D to win the game? When was the last time Flacco was that guy? 3 seasons ago in the playoffs? Heck, when was the last time he orchestrated a decent 2 minute drill going into the half or late in the 4th? He's definitely had his chances this year.

Yes, the D was beyond putrid in the 2nd half, and people want to keep pointing to the fact that our O only got the ball 4 times, but that's a very selective/convenient truth. Dallas only got the ball THREE (3) times in the 2nd half. The Cowboys offense just obviously did a lot more with their opportunities, while our offense (yet again) didn't do enough. Just one extra sustained drive in the 2nd half, or just one extra scoring drive in the 1st when the Ravens had the Cowboys on the ropes could've changed the entire complexion and outcome of this game.

--- 1st Half --

TOP 2:30, 5 plays, 23 yards, punt

TOP 3:09, 6 plays, 90 yards, TD

TOP 1:49, 6 plays, 15 yards, punt

TOP 2:40, 3 plays, -5 yards (Zuttah holding), punt

TOP 4:18, 47 yards, 9 plays, FG

-- 2nd Half --

TOP 1:40, 4 plays, 22 yards, punt

TOP 3:07, 4 plays, 16 yards (Zuttah 15-yard penalty made it 2nd and 16 somewhere in there), punt

TOP 4:14, 9 plays, 75 yards, TD

TOP 1:50, 8 plays, 34 yards, end of game

I definitely don't want Flacco benched, but even before his injury last year, he wasn't playing well. And he's been pretty terrible overall this year. I just don't think it's unreasonable to expect more from this guy because we've seen much more. Shrugging my shoulders and saying that our franchise 9-year SB-MVP $120M QB "didn't lose the game for us today" or "played well enough to win today" week after week seems a bit ridiculous. That's something you say about, I don't know, Alex Smith.

1 minute ago, jimmypowder said:

The Cowboys did not punt the entire second half!!! 

Quit being idiots and trying to blame this on Flacco!

 

Look, I've been one of the most staunch and consistent Flacco supporters/defenders since he got here, but he hasn't lived up to his contract at all. Not even close. The OL played well today, the run game was churning along early, and they were up against a bad pass D. Under the circumstances, is it too much to ask that Flacco do a little more than pass for ~200 yards and 1 score (and a big chunk of that was when the Ravens were down 14 in the 4th)?

Why can't we have higher expectations for our 9-year $120M SB-winning QB? I don't get it. I'm not saying we should bench him, but I think it's fair to expect more. We bash every other single player on the team, but somehow Flacco is beyond reproach? He's been TERRIBLE this year as a whole.

2 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

Cowboys o-line combined with our lack of pass rush is why we lost. I've never seen one like it. They make Dak look like an all-pro 

Raiders have a fantastic OL too. Another team the Ravens D couldn't do anything against.

2 minutes ago, DefensiveMind said:

dude cant even throw a hail mary into the endzone

Give him a break. He was just trying to pad his stats. His overthrow out of the endzone was also to avoid his 10th INT of the year.

1 minute ago, Ravens4Real said:

This fan base got lulled into a sense of hope because this offense had a decent second half against the Browns worst D in the NFL. 

We played a somewhat decent defense today and once again Flacco and the O don't show up. How many games are we going to throw away with poor offense?

The Cowboys run D is solid, but their pass D is trash. If the Ravens were going to win today, Flacco needed to play better than he's played the last 2 years. He just played ok. All of the ridiculous penalties were just the nail in the coffin.

4 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

What kills me is how well we played in the first half. 10-10 and we got the ball first. Everything set up for us to get momentum and out O and D just gave up

Let's be honest: as a Ravens fan, you should expect that type of letdown. If this team plays well in the 1st half, 90% of the time they're going to come out flat in the 2nd.

2 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

Good effort by the Ravens. I'm proud of them. ?

In the first half, yes.

The defense literally disappeared in the second, and the offense is still a work in progress (like every single year).

Is this seriously the most undisciplined team we've ever seen?

1 minute ago, jdynamite said:

This game could be so different if it wasn't for so many idiotic drive killing penalties. 

Common theme in all or losses! 

This. Exactly this.

5 minutes ago, darklight1216 said:

They could have saved him a few fractures if they'd played like this.

Right. haha

I'm just imagining Tony Romo thinking, where was this kind of protection when I was taking the snaps?

1 minute ago, RavensRegime said:

We be beating ourselves with all these penalties 

Been the story of the Ravens for a while now

1 minute ago, chunkywill25 said:

Smitty is way better than a lot of young receivers. give him his credit. 

He could play next year if he wanted to. Guy is amazing.

Yah. It's all the OL guys. Flacco just throwing at the turf.

Just now, OldToby said:

This team isn't equipped with the right players to succeed. We have 0 pass rush, no leaders, no playmakers, everyone plays timid. This is a joke, where is the fire in these kids eyes. 

Suggs leads the team with a measly 6 sacks. Pretty much says it all right there about our pass rush against anyone.

This is actually painful to watch. Picking apart our D

1 minute ago, Grapple Raven said:

The cowboys have been playing dirty all game if you haven't noticed, lol.  

They've always been a dirty team