and your opinion is exactly why gms loose there jobs he isn't a cb in the nfl he is just a ss yeah hes big but his backpedaling is subpar but yeah I guess time will show you your wrongRamsey is going to be a corner in the nfl. Terence brooks said thats his best position and so did hus coach. He is a very interesting prospect as he has all the athletic tools and speed, he can get off blocks to help in run support and could be the best press corner to come out in a long time. Blitzes like a bull as well. He is a bit raw with his footwork but he has the hips and athletic traits that can be coached up at the next level. Hes a natural athlete so i dont see too much to worry about any ability this kid has. He can do everything well but for now it looks like hes better off playing corner and thats comming from the people who best know him
can't make the club in the tubI think he gets one more year. But it could be decided in training camp
he has been hurt since middle school he is the equivalent of ammadola for new England he won't make it just giving you a heads upyes he will. We don't have another receiver like him. A small shifty guy who can work the slot and move the chains, and also return punts. I have no doubt he will get another shot- barring another injury in camp.I have also heard him talk about what he's going to do this offseason to train like hell and to prevent injury. Personally I believe him. He had just gotten past the hamstring issues by doing yoga and what not, and this latest injury was just a freak type of thing..in which IR'ing him wasnt even necessary -he could have returned in a few weeks but they needed roster spot
Deon Bush is my guykeep an eye on Sean Davis at the senior bowl, CB Maryland. Also, Deon Bush S Miami and Karl Joseph S WVU. my favorite mid round prospects at DB
monroe can be a june1 cut where we could spread the hit if we decided but I would take Alexander over vh3Harbaugh just declared today that Webby will be permanently moved to FS or nickel. I frankly think it's about time, and could potentially have big effects on our offseason if he is a stud at that role. Safety could become much less of an issue, to the point where VH3 over Ramsey, for example, is an inevitability. Same with KO's move to left tackle. If only we could do something about Monroe's contract. We've really been burned by Rice, Pitta, and Monroe these last few years. 2016 has the potential to be another building year unfortunately.
extremely biased towards this kid hes a ss at best he reminds me of a bigger brooks thats about itThis is a GROSS exaggeration of Ramsey's skill.
freedom to move on from will hill we just gave hill a contract hill is a solid ss and Ramsey is him coming out they are basically one in the same only hill had more Ball hawking ability. I never liked this Ramsey kid bc of the exact reasons he is a ss nothing more I pray we pass on him or hes gone by the time we draftbefore the 2015 ravens season withered away into rebuild mode, mostly every one of us would have been saying "man i wish we would have a chance to get that jalen ramsey". Now that we have a chance to get a player like this, we look at him very carefully, and doubt begins to creep in, and i personally think the doubt is there for good reason.
I was touting Ramsey very highly for a while, i wouldve taken him over just about anyone in the draft at one point, but a closer look at his game cleared up a few things for me. so i wanted to make a pros and cons list for this polarizing prospect, and a thread for us to discuss him as he is surely going to be a big bright blip on the teams radar, and this can be a good outlet to prevent jalen ramsey discussions from continuing to highjack every thread in the draft forum as it seems to be doing right now
so away we go...
PROS:
- incredible athlete, would bring much needed explosiveness that this defense severely lacks
- unquestionably tough, a real type A personality on the field
- from the LOS to about 15 yards downfield, he owns the entire field, carry/catch the ball if you dare
- brings swagger and intensity
- playmaker
- versatile
- will probably be the best blitzing db in the league from day 1
- has DPOY potential in the right system(do we have the right system?)
- fierce competitor
CONS:
- range in question as he has almost NO proof of playing as a true safety
- very undisciplined, too susceptible against savvy route runners
- goes rogue and abandons assignments
- temper, possible sideline distraction, possible flag magnet
- takes bad angles at times
- can press as a cb, but has a hideous backpedal and could very easily get burned by faster guys who know how to beat press
- terrible hands, average at best ball skills, i dont think he can fix our inability to get turnovers
- eyes always on the backfield, would rather cheat up than stick to his assignment and cover
- wants every tackle, every PD, wants every play for himself at a risky cost
- not a zone cover guy at this moment, has the closing speed and top end speed for it, but does he have the mental capacity?
i want to like the guy, but i also dont feel comfortable taking him so high, as i think there is a lot of risk tied to him and as our team stands right now i dont think he is a fit. however, if the braintrust decides our system is fine as is, then ramsey would give us freedom to move on from will hill and would be an unquestioned upgrade there, however this doesnt fix the massive voids at cb or fs, because he is an intermediate rover and moving weapon in the mold of a tyrann mathieu. we have to ask ourselves, should we pass up an OT, CB, DE/OLB, or WR for a guy who wont really fill one of the major voids on our team? do we take him and put him in a position to succeed and hope that his natural abilities can mask the deficiencies and sort of carry a struggling defense? or do we go the safer route here if someone like stanley or treadwell or a rising edge rusher is available?
camp isn't going to be here next year1)Treadwell 2)SSS 3)Perriman 4) Aiken 5) Camp 6 ) Chris mathews/ Waller/ or butler looks like a pretty strong corps to me. I would be extremely pleased with this group.
this is more likely but no noah spence ?Adjusted by Desmond King staying in school:
Round 1: Ronnie Staley, OT
Brings stability to our offensive line. A huge reason for our failures this season, even prior to injury, was that Joe Flacco was throwing ducks off his back foot. He clearly did not have enough faith in his O-line to drive the ball where it needed to be. This happened on nearly every game ending pick (Denver, Arizona, need I go on?) Staley is a better pass protector than even Laremy Tunsil.
Round 2: Tyler Boyd, WR
This kid has broken most of the records of some guy named Larry Fitzgerald, and has a close personal relationship with our wide receiver coach Bobby Engram. Seems like a match made in heaven to me.
Round 3: Carl Lawson, OLB
He is my favorite pure pass rushing 3-4 OLB by leaps and bounds. He immediately becomes a situational pass rusher and is a big improvement on Courtney Upshaw in that department. Health is a concern, but he has shown he has recovered and the rewards at a 3rd round price tags are simply obscene.
I would love Treadwell but I just can't see it Ozzie never takes the wr I love he also actually stated he prefers a great D prospect over a offensive skill position in one of those lier lunches
mike Williams isn't coming out this yearWhy use #6 pick on Treadwell when we could get Mike Williams from Clemson in like the 5th round lol. DB is also a deep draft in my opinion, so take a DL or OLB. If Bosa is there take him. Maybe try to trade up. We're going to have a good amount of picks this draft. And next draft Ozzie can trade comp picks, it's well worth it. Bottom line. We need a playmaker if that playmaker is Treadwell or Ramsey etc. I'm fine with whomever we pick. It just needs to be an immediate impact playmaker.
A mlb in the second lol
Tunsil
LT is our biggest need im sure Ozzie would get one of the two in the 1st rd
well prepare for your depression that looks like where we are goingIf we ended up like the Chiefs taking a 1st overall OT I would be depressed ...
exactly why we will draft tunsil or whatever his name is from old missBad play? Hurst doesn't even belong in the NFL not at LT anyway.
Not a fan rather have hargraves
so your saying qb ? There is still some rumblings that k.o. will be brought back and moved to ltnot when your franchise qb just tore his acl due to bad lt play and you still have no solution
agreement except for cooperVernon Hargreaves?
Really?
OMG....Matt Elam II and not cuz hes a Gator
He's got holes. Watch the Alabama game....but he doesn't have reliable hands.
Not in the first round.
Pass rusher than a real wr
even without that pass rush is our biggest needIf we resign KO and move him to LT I think our biggest need is pass rusher.
RB is not a need forsett buck allen Lt and west
as much as I love high powered offensive attacks I would love thisHow about Bosa and Ogbah. We wouldn't even need a secondary because the ball would never leave the qb's hands
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