Corey Davis and Fabian makes this the ideal draft imo
On 3/18/2017 at 10:02 PM, rossihunter2 said:this entire thread suggests that the ravens will draft for need rather than BPA which they always do... you are being incredibly specific with no idea about the specific players available at each spot or the feasibility of it or with no foresight as to who will be taken when
honestly, this strikes me as an almost entirely futile exercise
1) what if ross, davis, and williams are all gone in the first round?
2) what if elfein (and pocic) are gone in the 2nd round?
3) what if the top 10 linemen are all gone in the 3rd round?
3) what if there is a run on running backs and cooks, fournette, mccaffrey, kamara, foreman, perrine, hunt, clement, gallman etc are all gone?
4) what if that run on cbs means that everyone down to players like kazee get taken before our pick in the 4th round?
5) what if the late round depth of the linebacker class is reached on by linebacker needy teams - guys like duke riley, anthony walker, alex anzalone etc.?
6) what if the only safeties left are the potential UDFAs like jamal carter?
i dont think any of the scenarios ive posted above are even remotely unfathomable or even unlikely... the answer to all of them is that we wouldn't take that position at that spot we'd pick a guy who falls from a different position - i could see all 3 of the first possibilities coming about - maybe they are even likely to happen who can say for sure?
as with everything draft related you have to pick the player not the position like good teams do and you may be right that we end up with offensive pieces but its also quite likely given the defensive strength in the draft that our first pick is an edge rusher for example or our 2nd/3rd picks are defensive backs
-- fighting against the strength of the draft class in advance of the draft even happening is like swimming upstream when you have no destination to get to
If you think about it we always draft on a need basis when we drafted B.p. we needed wr when they took Mosley they needed mlb when they drafted Jimmy they needed cb it's just we don't reach for a need
On 2/20/2017 at 10:57 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:Not familiar with the late round guys but I would like this draft. Dan feeney is more my cup of tea as I think he's the best guard prospect since Zack Martin and I see Alex Lewis as a better RT, but I do like Robinson and love the idea of trading back to target a guard. Tre white is in my top 5 corners and i think he's really underrated but I think he ends up in the first, jourdan Lewis is really similar but I think he is more likely to be there at 48, I still like Demarcus walker and think he's gonna be a really solid pro but nothing spectacular, but he's such a gamer and so refined and savvy that I think he makes an impact, I like smoot and walker as well.
I think we could find a better wr in the 3rd like rogers or Godwin, Taylor seems like more of a day 3 prospect to me, but to each his own, if you haven't already I suggest watching some of darreus rogers, iM not one to clamor for a boldin clone or compare every big bodied guy to boldin but I'll be damned if he doesn't look exactly like boldin on tape.
Solid mock
Taylor is two times better than both the wide Receivers you mentioned combined We would be lucky to get him in the third after the combine
On 2/10/2017 at 2:38 PM, rossihunter2 said:what do you guys think about fabian moreau and rasul douglas?
Douglas and moreau would be steals with our 3rd rd comp both could be day one starting Cbs imo
On 1/10/2017 at 0:27 AM, rav3nsnation said:1st.) Cam Robinson- I say we get someone who could make our offensive line from weak to top 10 in a couple years assuming we stay healthy. Imagine having Ronnie Stanley, and Cam Robinson as our tackles, could become as good as Lewan and Conklin as a rising pair of tackles.I say we let go of Rick Wagner and use that money to retain B Williams
2nd.) Tre'Davious White- As many here i love this kid one of the best cover corners ive seen in a couple years, yes he has his tackling problems but i think with Frazier improving our secondary like this year he could become decent at tackling. If White joined us he could help make our secondary elite even if/when Jimmy goes down pairing with Young and Weddle(who could help mentor him).
3rd.) Cooper Kupp- This may be suprising to you guys because he come from a small school, but this kid is sure handed,great after the catch, and could help Flacco move the chains while he is here. I see him as a Jordy Nelson type with hands and YAC, definitely the gem of this draft in my opinion.
3rd.) Tyler Orlosky- Good center to hopefully replace zuttah who is a flag machine and absolute trash. This kid may be something special great bend and is incredibly smart to pair along with a young O Line if we get Robinson to go with Lewis Stanley and Yanda
How you feel about this mock?
We are already ranked in the top 10 @ oline look up off oline rankings
The kid Zay Jones could be a steal in the 2nd round
On 2/10/2017 at 2:41 AM, #Nevermore said:Dalvin Cook is the best playmaker in this draft. If he is on the board, it would be hard to pass him up. I know he doesn't necessarily fit need and he has some off the field issues, but this dude is a stud. If you want a playmaker he can do it all. We know how Mornhinweg likes backs out of the backfield. He is a great pass catcher and great with the ball in his hands.
Maybe you should know his fumble rate is over 60%
On 2/9/2017 at 1:31 PM, ellicottraven said:Mike Williams isn't happening unless we trade up to get him. The same holds true for Lattimore.
We could get Corey Davis who is better than Mike Williams
On 12/26/2016 at 11:57 PM, 443hurricane said:I have already mentioned my corey davis feelings.
Perriman = scared to get hurt
Aiken= like denny green said we know what we have here
Wallace= will be 32 next year; time to move forward
Moore= not sure more like a teams guy to me
I want
Explosive WR or DE
round 2 . CB or whichever we did not draft in round 1
round 3 . OL
round 4 . CB we struck gold with Tavon Young.. just watched his tape.. great film. I want more aggressive corners just a little bigger.
round 4 WR
round 5-7 bpa or red flags potential. maybe grades; or coach squabble
We only have three wrs not including Campanaro under contract for next season
On 12/17/2016 at 0:39 PM, hn68wb4 said:I was just going through the bowl games and came across Taywan Taylor from WKU, anyone know anything about the guy, has massive production in their offense, haven't watched anything on him.
I like the kid he will kill the combine he has a lot of Crabtree like traits from the little bit I saw from him
On 11/5/2016 at 7:47 AM, BmoreBird22 said:Is he the one that had gun charges?
Yeah this is him and I would wonder is he even going to be on our radar bc of this ?
On 12/17/2016 at 2:46 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:Davis doesn't have the most impressive explosion either. He's got better verticals but his explosion and top end speed are what keeps him from being considered a superstar prospect. Kupp may actually have better top end speed, he's sneaky fast and once he gets about 5 yards of open field he pulls away from defenders consistently.
I don't know witch Corey Davis you have been watching I have been following him for the past two years never once have I heard anyone question his explosion kupp is good at finding soft spots in zone that's all
On 11/12/2016 at 7:42 AM, Davesta said:If we can steal Corey Davis in the 2nd rd.... Man I'll be jumping up and down with joy
STOP we do this every year I end up falling in love with a Certain Wr prospect Ozzie always ends up talking in code about that prospect and we never take him
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On 12/18/2016 at 7:19 AM, Wildabeast88 said:Well the question is who in the top 3 rounds do you pass on. Do you ignore CB if Jimmy gets hurt, or ignore the interior O-line I think we need a pass rusher in the top 2 picks so what do you suggest. Antonio Brown was a 6th round pick they can be found and developed. Street ear was a specimen 6-5 220-225 with 4.3 speed he just couldn't catch that pick was worth the gamble it just didn't work out. I'm not huge on Hunter but where else do you go. If we keep Wallace and Aiken and Camp stays healthy ( I know a big if ) a
On 12/18/2016 at 7:19 AM, Wildabeast88 said:Well the question is who in the top 3 rounds do you pass on. Do you ignore CB if Jimmy gets hurt, or ignore the interior O-line I think we need a pass rusher in the top 2 picks so what do you suggest. Antonio Brown was a 6th round pick they can be found and developed. Street ear was a specimen 6-5 220-225 with 4.3 speed he just couldn't catch that pick was worth the gamble it just didn't work out. I'm not huge on Hunter but where else do you go. If we keep Wallace and Aiken and Camp stays healthy ( I know a big if ) and who knows will SSS stay one more year.
You can't count on A 38 year old Wr father time Aiken Is a URFA he could go elsewhere and campanaro lol yes A.b. was a 6th rd pick but unless you're the Steelers who had three very good wrs when they drafted him It doesn't work like that there are some instant impact wrs that can be had in the 1st 3 rounds scenario 1st.Tim Williams 2nd.Sidney Jones 3rd.Isaiah Ford wr vt the other third rd pick offensive line the Baylor center I forgot his name there you have it
6 hours ago, gtalk12 said:Can someone tell me roughly where we sit pick wise at the moment?
17th
17 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:Ya i agree. Theres a lot of good value in the second round. Although i would be pretty bummed not to get a corner in the first 2 rounds considering how good this class is. Especially at the top. Same with pass rusher. 2 positions we really need to find a long term answer for. I wouldny be surprised if we trade back into the 2nd round this year considering comp picks are now tradeable.
I would be highly disappointed rather have quality over quantity There is a reason The vast majority of 1st rd picks fair better than 2nd-7th round
On 12/15/2016 at 6:45 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:Finally got around to watching Cooper kupp....
Someone tell me Why the hell this man isn't a high 2nd/late 1st prospect? Level of competition and all but this man looks the part of an NFL wr. He's tied with Corey Davis in my book after finally seeing him.
He dosen't have that same explosion on film as Davis He looks more like Chris Hogan with better hands nothing jumps off on tape he should be a middle 2nd early third pick
On 12/16/2016 at 7:50 AM, BmoreBird22 said:No, most of those are slot receivers...
No most didn't start out in the slot and all don't exclusively line up in the slot Larry Fitzgerald still lines up outside so dose the rest that we're named
On 12/15/2016 at 6:47 PM, hn68wb4 said:lol, whatever you say dude
The only good team we beat was the Steelers so I know I'm correct this team needs a serious overhaul and we won't be contenders until you can take that check to the bank and cash it but you will see explain to me how a 5-11 team last seseason that is basically showing the same issues are contenders? ??
On 11/22/2016 at 0:04 PM, Jacquouille said:1) Yes, we knew him before the draft. And we still know him, not playing because Zach Orr is playing at a near Pro Bowl level isn't a crime.
2) You need two teams to trade. Ozzie tried several times to trade up this year and just didn't find anyone.
3) This year's class is so loaded at certain positions, overspending for a guy could be very very costly.
What has he done ??? Nothing When we could have draft Noah Spence who is coming on lately in Tampa bay this kid we wasted a pick on isn't even a ilb he's trash or invisible
On 11/15/2016 at 2:20 PM, hn68wb4 said:Williams will be long gone by 21. We saw last year with Floyd that teams will overlook a heck of a lot to take a good pass rusher, and Williams is less of a liability against the run than Floyd was.
We are slotted at 16 now
On 11/7/2016 at 6:41 PM, rmw10 said:I meant our current team's depth, not the draft. This is the deepest draft at CB in a long time. Sorry for the misunderstanding there.
That means no cb till round three
18 hours ago, ravensnj said:Here's just a few NFL slot receivers: Fitzgerald, Cooks, Cobb, Decker,Landry, Tate, & Boldin. I think the slot position is pretty valuable.
You named one real slot wr
On 12/13/2016 at 6:59 PM, hn68wb4 said:CB is the clear cut position we need to take round 1, the second Jimmy goes down we go from a contender to a terrible team. Offense is atrocious and needs lots of help but CB is the position we have to go. A new offensive coordinator could turn our offense around, no more former head coaches and veteran cast offs as coordinators, I'm sick of that, Kubiak has literally been the only one that's worked out (Caldwell was hit and miss, 2012 playoffs were nice and all but 2013 was bad). Take a chance on an up-and-comer with inventive ideas, not someone stuck in the past. Sidney Jones is still my guy but I'd be happy with a few of the top guys, I'll pass on Jackson in the first, saying he's "a little raw as a CB" is an understatement, he's a return man with athleticism and puts in effort on D, if he's around in the second then sure, but not the first.
Contender ?????????? That had to been auto correct bc we are a terrible team in need of a serious overhaul
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I would really cry tears of joy with this draft but I think Ross will fall to the 2nd because of medical and I'm going on record saying when we draft Davis he will be a instant starting wr that's all