MKM3917

Nothing will change that much. The offensive line and special teams are bad.

Injured and playing out of position doesn't equal bad for the O-Line, it just means they need to get healthy. They had success when they ran the ball the last two weeks, but Trestman wouldn't do it, so he had to go.

i would hold on to monroe unless a team is desperate and takes his contract off of our hands but if that were to be the case we would still need someone with LT experience to back up stanley just in case he were to get injured. hurst is not the answer

It isn't his contract that is the issue, it is his signing bonus. He has no guaranteed money left in the contract, just $6.6M in signing bonus that would all come due. You can't trade that away, so a trade doesn't help his cap hit over being cut. As the article said, the only reason to trade him over a straight cut is to get something in return, like a draft pick.

  1 hour ago, MKM3917 said:

It wouldn't be out of character for Ozzie to try to jump up to Dallas' spot at 4 and draft Ramsey if San Diego chooses Tunsil. And the cost wouldn't be huge, they could probably do it for one of our 4ths and a mid round pick next year.

It would be very much out of character if Ozzie's first move was trading up.  

Granted he moved up to get Flacco, but that was AFTER trading back from their original position. 

He has moved up in other instances over the last 20 years to grab a player that they want. Many have not been the players that he hoped they would be. He did it for Arthur Brown, Micheal Oher, Adam Terry. Others have been exactly what he wanted, like Marshal Yanda and Haloti Ngata. It needs to be the right player and the price has to be right. He isn't giving up a ton of value to choose one player.

  14 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

I don't know if the Ravens are gaga over some of these guys. Some of these guys have character flaws that the Ravens tend to shy away from. I believe the Ravens like Ramsey, Buckner and Jack and for some reason if they are all gone, I think they will trade back a few spots and grab Hargreaves. Tunsil, Bosa and a couple other guys have some off-field concerns and whether or not they are serious enough for the Ravens to back off, I don't have that knowledge but I am just basing it on the Ravens not risking the first pick at all with a player that may even have the smallest chance of screwing up. Hargreaves is squeaky clean, comes from an NFL house where his father coached for the Dolphins and is very NFL ready. My choice is the Ravens will take a DB in the first round (Ramsey or Hargreaves) and fill in with Pass rusher in the second with Spence or Nkemdiche, who will fall down the board, where taking a risk isn't quite as risky. Sometimes I base it on what they say and this time DeCosta keeps going on about getting a pass rusher and they can get a corner later between 24 and 36 where there are a number. I think that thought is being put out there a little too much making me think it is subterfuge. I was right last year when they kept saying everything but receiver and even said they may not even draft a receiver. That led me to believe that is exactly what they would do and that was the way it went down.

Yea, but if Ramsey does not fall to us, which most think he will not than we are left with Hargreaves who I would love to get, but I don't see him really outside the top 10 picks. So if the Ravens did trade back it could not be far.

It wouldn't be out of character for Ozzie to try to jump up to Dallas' spot at 4 and draft Ramsey if San Diego chooses Tunsil. And the cost wouldn't be huge, they could probably do it for one of our 4ths and a mid round pick next year.

If the Ravens can solidify their OL... and if Suggs comes back in shape and motivated we should be in for a good year. With that said Tunsil looks like the best case scenario. If he's gone there doesn't seem to be a clear best case scenario... maybe Bosa?

Tunsil is a fit, but where do you start him? The obvious answer is LT, but Monroe is under contract and the chances of getting anything in a trade for him are seriously hurt by his recent injury history and contract. YOu can't cut Monroe because of his dead money and resulting cap hit. You could move Tunsil inside to LG, like they did with Ogden for a season, but there are no guarantees that works to solidify the OL.

Most of the "studs" early in this draft are on the defensive side of the ball. The Ravens need to get one of them. Ramsey, Jack and Buckner are all better fits with the Ravens than Bosa, who would be moving from a 4-3 DE to a 3-4 OLB..

KO's offer and the expected rework of Flacco's deal cannot possibly be connected: KO's offer has been made already, while the Flacco-talks haven't even begun. So, the possible extra cap space gained by the reworked Flacco-deal cannot be the base of the KO-offer. No sane GM would take such an extra cap-space for granted until the contract is signed and sealed.

TBH, I cannot comprehend how any kind of serious offer to KO could be possible - I mean one that would even make KO think about it seriously. Seriously baffling. If the offer was, indeed, anywhere close to competitive and KO accepts it - which is, although improbable, Ozzie cannot afford to disregard as a possibility - the Flacco deal will have to be redone, the "going on with Joe's current cap figure" will no longer be a bossible, let alone a viable option.

Well, I guess that's why I'm not the Ravens' GM and Ozzie is :)

Since it is before the new league year starts, they don't have to be under the cap yet, so a deal with KO could happen. If he agrees and the Flacco contract doesn't get extended or redone, they still would have time to make other cuts and adjustments before needing to be under the cap.

I maybe wrong, but the average of the top 5 guards is somewhere around $5-7 million. To pay that to possibly have your future LT is worth the price I think. Monroe's durability scares me and I am not sure if we want to see James Hurst being tossed like a rag doll into our franchise QB again lol 

The franchise tag for the Offensive Line is not broken down by position, so it is the same regardless of if you want him as a guard or tackle.  The tag number for 2015 was $12.943 million, and will be likely be higher for 2016.

You draft watchers, who is better CB - Hargreaves or Alexander? Guess I better add Ramsey in there too. (Let it begin!!!)

Ramsey is the best athlete of the three, with the most flexibility in role.  He can play slot or outside CB and safety.  There has been a lot of talk that his best position in the NFL is actually at Free Safety.  Between Hargreaves and Alexander, Hargreaves is the more experienced, but Alexander is slightly bigger, slightly faster (although the combine may change that) and has more upside to develop.

Whether he is a starter or just a quality depth guy, he should be resigned. No one has any idea who the team will draft and what impact they will have in 2016, so you can't count on a rookie to fill the spot opposite Smith. Wright is a known quantity who improved and played well once he learned the defense.

Not to blame the officials for this one, because the Ravens lost it on their own, but how did that hit on Aiken in the 3rd Quarter, where his bobbled ball led to the first INT, not draw a flag? The defender led with his helmet right into Aiken's helmet. It was a textbook defenseless player call and they didn't flag it. It wouldn't have changed the outcome of the play or the game, but the officiating has been so uneven this year that every missed call has become irritating.

Without knowing what the injury is that's keeping Perriman off the field, it's too early to label him soft or a bust. That being said, maybe it's time to put him on IR and just shut him down for the year, rather than have him on the injury report week after week as an ugly reminder of what could have been. Use the spot to take a look at someone from another teams PS.

In other news, SF showed last night that they really aren't a good team at all, with Kaepernak unable to move the football until late in the game and Torry Smith a total non-factor, so I think that's more proof that our defense isn't good enough to hang with even the worst teams in the NFL. First pick here we come. I note that neither Torry Smith nor Ngata are playing well enough this year to suggest Ozzie was wrong in not ponying up the big bucks -- each one is regarded as grossly overpaid by their respective teams. That doesn't fix our own problems but makes it harder to point to loss of these players being the culprit for our woes.

Saw an article suggesting the Ravens deal SSS back to the Panthers so he gets a shot at the post season and the Ravens get something for next year nice he's retiring. While I think Green Bay could use him better, it would be foolish for Ozzie to not at least explore these options. We probably finish last in our division and then he will retire and our starters will be Aiken and maybe Perriman, which doesn't bode well for 2016. A draft pick from a team that wants to win now could be huge in filling a big hole.

Maybe after we get shellacked on Monday night the phone calls will start.

There is no chance that the Ravens deal SSS, especially back to Carolina.  He has said when asked that he would retire immediately if traded.

TBH, this is all on the coordinators, Dean Pees is making our corners play 10 yards off the receivers, then all the opposing QB has to do is call for a slant and they can dink and dunk the whole game. Our D-line plays with no fire at all. The only thing I've been impressed with on D this year is our MLBs and Will Hills instincts. On the offense its all Marc Trestman, Our o-line suddenly breaks down when last year we were a dominant force, Our guards were and still are amazing, Rick Wagner was emerging as one of the better RTs in the league, but Marc Trestman abandons the run game after three plays if they aren't successful. In Joe's defense, he has no weapons. This is all just my opinion.

You are dead on accurate about the corners playing too far off the line, but the rest of your assessment of the defense is pretty far off.  The d-line has looked pretty good, despite being inconsistent at times.  The MLBs have been very inconsistent, especially in coverage.  The OLBs have been awful since Suggs went down.  No pressure on the opposing QBs and they haven't been setting the edge well.  The only group that has been somewhat consistent is the safeties.  As for the offense, the O-Line looks like they still aren't completely healthy from their various off-season injuries and surgeries and so they haven't put together a complete game yet.  Overall, the offense has looked like the stronger side of the team, despite the lack of weapons, and Flacco has looked pretty good overall.

I wish the future would be James Hurst LT, K.O. LG, Urschal C, Marshal Yanda RG, and Rick Wagner Rt but Monroe is under contract for at least 2 years due to dead money. Could've save more money for K.O. and Yanda. Monroe is okay but not that dominant to me. James Hurst would've been a cheaper option for LT.

Monroe could be released after 2015 and only the balance of his bonus would be due.  It would save $2.1M against the 2016 cap.  They can release Zuttah after 2015 also and save $1.4M against the 2016 cap.  The question is, would $3.5M be enough to resign both K.O. and Yanda?

@hen826957 - In Ngata's case, trading him did free cap space because he was in the final year of his contract. Trading Monroe would not free up any cap room, it would actually eat up additional cap in 2015. Monroe's cap hit for 2015 is $7.7M ($5.5M salary and $2.2M bonus). If he is traded his new team is only required to pay his salary, which would save the Ravens $5.5M. But his bonus, plus the remainder of his prorated bonus, are the Ravens responsibility in the current season, so they would have an additional $6.6M (3 years at $2.2M remaining after 2015). So they would be picking up an extra $1.1M this year.

Friday, someone had mentioned that it was tweeted that Maxx Williams was very selfish at the Combine. That he was all about him. Wasn't a very team-oriented kind of guy... Not that it bothered me, but if I am in a situation where I have to show what I can do to 32 NFL Football teams in order to get paid, in order to get a job???? I'm gonna be selfish. I think he's a great pick up... and ABOLUTELY,I am glad we jumped ahead of the Squeelers to get him.

I think you have that confused with Clive Walford, out of Miami.  All of the reports on him were that he was all about himself, not the team.

In fairness to Waller, no receiver had great production in the Georgia Tech option offense, which only produced 1882 yards for receivers. Waller had 442 of that, almost 24% of the yardage. Over his 3 years, he had an almost 20 yard average per catch.