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I see Bosa, if we draft him playing OLB in the base set or 5 technique. Then bumping in on longer passing downs. So I would see alignments like this if we drafted him: 

 

Suggs-Bosa-Williams-Jernigan-Dumervil  or Suggs-Urban-Williams-Jernigan-Bosa. Depending on how we feel about Urban after this year. I could also see a 4 man front like: 

 

Suggs-Bosa-Jernigan-Dumervil.

 

A 3 man dime rush would likely bump Suggs or Dumervil off the field if we drafted Bosa:

 

Suggs-Jernigan-Bosa

 

Either way this still helps Dumervil, he was always better coming in fresh for a pass rush.  

I think it turns more into a rotation between Suggs, Doom, and Bosa where Bosa stays on the field the majority of the time. Possibly making Dumerville tradable if the offer is sweet enough

The first group of players (19) to accept Senior Bowl invitation:

 

http://www.seniorbowl.com/news-highlights-detail.php?news=421

Excited to see Boehm and Sean Davis

It also helped Reed as well, to be able to roam more freely. It does goes both ways, I just don't see how the "FS cover CB play" arguement holds up in todays NFL. I do like both as well and I would be hyped with either Hargreaves or Ramsey.

I look at all those years where we had Reed and our secondary woes were never this severe, granted the league is much more inclined to air it out now. If a QB is afraid to throw it over the top then the corners only have to worry about ten yards then covering becomes much easier.

I don't think we'll be looking at first receivers in the first round unless we turn the season around and wind up with 6/7 wins or we trade back. I do love the value in the second with the possibility of Boyd or Coleman sliding down to us there.

I don't think that there's many guys out there in FA that would be much of an upgrade over what we have. Likely the top guys will be an oft-injured and cut Victor Cruz, or cap casualty Vincent Jackson

I think it goes both ways. Cary honestly had a love-hate relationship here, I can look back at him being a scrapgoat in our 2011 season, but lets not forget we had Webb playing out of his mind that year. It made Ed's job a bit easier allowing him roam around more freely. With Webb playing that great, it opened the door for Cary to get attacked. I personally feel that anyone can argue we need a CB as much as a FS, but thats just my opinion. I just don't see much in that arguement of a FS covering up poor CB play. It handicaps the safety if anything, he won't be able to play aggressive and will be forced to play more conservative.

You also made the argument against yourself. Webb was playing out of his mind opening the door for Williams to be attacked. It does go both ways and I think we'd be happy with either

I noticed how a lot of people point out that FS's can cover up poor CB play and while I feel this is true to an extant I strongly feel this isn't always the case neither is it the case in most instances. I can point to multiple teams, Seattle, New England, and San Diego who have feel victim to this. Teams have been constantly attacking their #2's and 3's. Especially Seattle, Cary Williams got picked on all-day against Arizona. NE's other CBs were hammered against New York and that will likely be the reoccurring theme for theme. It will hurt them eventually. I don't see many examples of FS's covering up CBs unless that FS has a shutdown CB along his side. I'm not trying to sound annoyed or come across as arrogant, but I really don't understand this argument. 

A great FS can bail out CB's who make mistakes and great a CB can make a FS's job a lot easier and allow him to roam around more. This CB vs S argument has been going on for awhile, but there's a definite answer. There have been plenty of examples of both throughout the league. It really just depends on what you prefer and the defensive scheme the team runs.

See rave's response. When you have a shutdown corner that takes away a side of the field or a receiver, but if you have a great FS you know that your 2s and 3s are going to have help over the top and can elevate their play. Cary Williams looked pretty good when he was on the Ravens, but he also had Reed over the top along with Jimmy on the otherside

My order is Bosa - Ramsey - Hargreaves. As it's been stated before we want a pass rusher and Bosa looks like he could be that guy and a good FS can cover up crappy CB play, and then Hargreaves is just so sound with his technique that he'd be hard to pass on

I only see us grabbing Nkemdiche if we trade back and Bosa/Ramsey/Hargreaves are all gone. At that point I think it's still a toss up between him and the two tackles, but I'd be happy with any of those 6

Love me some Desmond King. Ideally the draft goes 1- Bosa/Ramsey 2- Coleman/Boyd/Doctson 3-King/Sanchez/Sutton

I wouldn't take him in the first unless he's clearly another Antonio Brown because of where I expect we'll pick I don't see him as best value.

I honestly think this draft class is kinda average with very few elite talents and reminds me very much of the 2012 class.

That's exactly why I think this is the perfect year for us to be down and turn it around. At the rate we're going we can get an elite talent up top and still get stellar value with the second pick in a guy like Coleman 

Man I really want to watch Coleman. I'm going to prioritize watching him this weekend.

Rumor has it if you play the tape on mute and have Steve Smith audio in the background you experience a phenomenon very similar to the dress picture a while back. You can't tell which player you're watching 

no, im looking at it now, this is REALLY laughable. 

 

the draft always has a ton of plot twists, and walter football seems to try to predict them but they tend to be way off base when they do so, and this is an extreme case of that.

up until this one though

FWIW walterfootball has us taking doctson with our second pick and Corey Coleman going right in front of us. We also get Bosa at 6.

Is it just me or do their mocks actually seem legit this year? Seems like in the past they were always laughable

I think Ramsey is the safest pick for us, not the best, but the safest. 

Bosa has the highest potential and is at the top of the list for me.

Then comes Ramsey/Nkemdiche. I think Ramsey could change our defense, but Nkemdiche looks like a super luxury pick, but a beast.

Then comes Tunsil/Stanley. I prefer Tunsil more just because he has that nasty streak, but Stanley would be just as good.

Hargreaves is next in line and the margin behind Hargreaves and the rest is much larger than the difference in the top guys.

I actually think the Ravens will be spoiled for choice in the early 2nd. At least a couple good edge guys should fall to that spot, one of the better receivers, or possibly a good offensive lineman. Maybe even Myles Jack, depending on how things play out. I think we'll be able to get a really good player as a position of need.

That's what I'm most excited about getting to pick so high, is seeing Ozzie get us guys with first round talent. Unless we get to 7 wins and pick outside the top ten I still think we're going to get a stud, outside top 5 I don't see a guy like Jack, but maybe Nassib, or someone along those lines.

Also agree that Deon Bush out of Miami seems like a very intriguing prospect

Yeah - that's my prediction in terms of where we will draft. I think we're a good enough team to get a few more wins, but flawed enough to still drop a few as well. I'd anticipate a split 4-4 to finish, giving us a 6-10 record. There are a lot of other bad teams ... so that isn't going to be top ten. 

 

As far as who we go for ... I'm not as up on the college pipeline as a lot of you are. If there is anyone at either the CB, FS or OLB position who we can claim is BPA - that's what we're going to draft. 

Even if we split and wind up 6-10, we're still more than likely picking to ten. Looking at previous drafts and teams this year 6-10 has been almost a definite top ten pick

Still think there's a shot! Gotta hold out hope. As terrible as the Lions O-Line has been I think they'd be foolish to pass on one of the LTs. I don't think it's crazy that the browns, chargers, bears, cowgirls, chargers, or even 49ers grab a QB

Boyd frustrates me because like a lot of people have said he reminds me a lot of Kennan Allen, who I really wanted. He's super smooth in his routes but doesn't have that top speed to blow by people, which makes me think his draft status will be similar to Allen, or even Alshon Jeffery. Both guys that should have been first rounders, but fell to the second 

Bortles has been playing well and shown that he can either be a star or a dud. 

You never know which Rams team you're going to get, but with Gurley in the mix full time they look dangerous.

The Browns have already beaten us a home, now we go into Cleveland.

The Dolphins have looked like a new team with their coaching change.

The Sea Chickens are starting to get on track.

The Chiefs have had success with the quick west coast offense in previous seasons.

The Steelers should have Rothlisberger for this game.

The Bengals look legit this year and seem to have had our number.

The KC game is the only one that I'm confident that we'll win, but I was also sure we'd beat the Browns and would at least be 4-4 right now. I think top is a lock since no team (outside of 2010) with 6 wins has picked outside the top ten in the last 5 years, and I wouldn't call top 5 outside the realm of possibility. 

Not gonna lie, I didn't even see Nassib there. I just thought Floyd, Lawson and then Dural were WAY too good to pass up at their respective points (ie, no chance they're there during the real thing) and just assumed Nassib had been taken by that point.

I think Nassib is rated 160 something on fanspeak and 250 something on CBS. Or maybe it's the other way around

 

Thought I'd try seven rounds for the lols. I know very little about the draft's bottom-end guys at this stage but eh.

As far as the guys at the end of the simulator, Carl Nassib is the only name that matters

Has anyone seen much of Missouri C Evan Boehm? Looks a little heavy-footed perhaps and he looks so-so in pass protection, but his run blocking is outright dominant. He's listed at 310, which you take with a pinch of salt but if it's true he's already heavier than Zuttah, and his wrestling background shows with his use of leverage. He's got the upper body strength to dominate and uses his legs to drive his man back. The Missouri RB can get like 4/5ypc running behind him.

Could be an interesting prospect for early day three, and just what we need for Trestman's inside running game.

CBS has him listed at 320 and calls him a coke machine with arms. Sounds like he's certainly worth a look

I think CBS has changed their prospect rankings a bit. Lynch is now ranked higher than Goff and Tunsil is ranked higher than Stanley. In fact Tunsil is ranked 2nd overall.

Nassib is still criminally underrated to quote Grim

So far teams only really have 4 games worth of film on him. Had there been another year or two of film we might be talking about him as highly as Bosa is regarded. The unknown factor is what's causing him to be viewed so low right now. I guarantee come draft day he'll be a very popular name

I figure the best thing he has going for him is that he's a d-linemen whose name starts with an N followed by a consonant and we just traded our guy like that away.

Without turning this into an Nkemdiche thread, I think that he has the ability to be special, and I'd probably take him over Stanley.

I would prefer his teammate as he first LT off the board, but either would be a good fit behind the top few guys