Baltimore RAYvens

22 minutes ago, omar586 said:

no way we draft him in the 1st 4 rounds, he might not be the same, u want a contributor with your high picks.

He came out and said that his doc said he'll play in 2017. 

9 hours ago, purpletide said:

Nice. I'm excited to see all the Brandon Chicken jokes.

Is that a relative? His friend's name is Buster Chicken.

I see a lot of mocks have Pocic until just after we pick in the third round. Did I miss something? Frome everything I've seen he had a good combine to back up everything we heard up to that point

Cut: Mike Wallace, Elvis Dumervil, Kendrick Lewis, Benjamin Watson (Savings 16.5 million)

Trade Round 7 for Conner Barwin (7.5 cap this year)

Free Agents: Alshon Jeffrey (5 years - $65 Million; ala TY Hilton's contract 4-5 cap this year)

                      Tony Jefferson (4 years - $24 Million; 3-4 cap this year)

                      Sylvester Williams (4 years - $20 Million 2-3 cap this year)

Resign: Lawrence Guy

             Kyle Juszczyk

Still leaves the team around 7 Million to round out with some veteran backup

Round 1: Corey Davis, WR: Western Michigan

Round 2: Desmond King, CB: Iowa

Round 3: Ethan Pocic, C: LSU

Round 3 Comp: Zach Banner, OG: USC

Round 4: Ryan Switzer, WR: UNC

Round 5: Ejuan Price, OLB: Pitt

Round 6: Xavier Woods, S: Louisiana Tech

Davis gives us a player to work the intermediates, while Switzer gives us a guy to work the underneath with Perriman taking the top off.

King is a natural ball hawk who fills in across from Jimmy pushing Wright into a lesser role where he can excel more.

Pocic and Banner give us a massive (literally) boost to the left side of the line allowing Lewis to move to RT

Price is a Dumervil clone, only much younger and cheaper.

Woods is an under the radar guy that has the bark and leadership to take a late round flier on

The Buffalo Bills are actively shopping the entire roster other than:

     Marcell Dareus

     Shaq Lawson

     Reggie Ragland

     Adolphus Washington

     Sammy Watkins

Will try and get my SoF, depth chart, and trade block up today. Will be out of town the next two days without internet, but would love to come back to a full mail box of trade offers

Was really hoping we could have finished tonight. Shame

18 minutes ago, regz1997 said:

You do love your draft picks... how many did you have last year? About 30?

That may have just been counting his picks in rounds 2,3, and 4

Looks like I won't have a lot of trouble making a decision this year

1 hour ago, allblackraven said:

You care to expand on this? I don't get the difference compared to previous years.

I think part of the reason we had such great success was that the strategy Ozzie has used to evaluate prospects over the years hasn't changed. It had been far ahead of the rest of the NFL, however in the past ten years the league has changed how they look at college talent and it has put them on the same level, which means that we no longer get those guys that slip to us that have produced in the past

I think the likelihood of us picking Cook is about the same as us trading the for Luck. Zero.

Moreau was a guy I liked last year before his injury, haven't watched much of him this last year to see how he's recovered.

Smithson is a guy I liked based on the work he does off field in the community, but after looking closer on the field he's nothing short of unimpressive, but there's worse ways to spend a 7th round pick

3 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Yeah but how many remain mid round guys because we've read this book before. Who's to say NE doesn't take Jones at 32? Belichick has a history of this kinda stuff. 

 

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This is the mindset that I think the team has taken. Which is why we have such a dearth of young talent. Ozzie has always been a value guy, which was great when he had the best strategy of evaluation of talent, however in recent years with the playing field being much more level the value strategy seems to hurt more than it helps. We're so afraid to "overdraft" a guy that we don't take the gamble on talent. Just like last year in round 2, we'll never know if KC was the actual target, but who's to say we didn't miss our guy by trying to get him at his value and getting the extra picks?

Hopefully I'll be close when we do start. The pressure of picking early and not holding the forum up

55 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

That's an awesome name! That in itself is a reason why I'd be happy if we got him. Other from his name, I know nothing of him. 

His name is actually Anthony Smithson, but Fish has been his nickname for as long as he can remember but refuses to tell the story. But all in all seems like a great kid off the field enough to warrant a look

While we're talking about S, has anyone looked at Fish Smithson from Kentucky? Grew up in the area, and is still giving back to the community here. Seems to really have a good head on his shoulders and is a playmaker between the lines 

3 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

as per usual it will come down to BPA - we will likely get one of our top 14 guys maybe a higher guy as well if a third qb and maybe an olineman or two goes first

I'm tired of trying to get excited about guys we take by having to convince myself that having a guy who is at a position that won't have much of an impact, but is marginally better than someone at a position that would step into a need

As much as it would be nice to snag Davis at 16. I think the team is going to look at the depth, and we're going to be "excited" by building the trenches with BPA in the first three rounds and wind up with a WR that no one is talking about on the last day

Slot 4 por favor

It seems to me like there is much better value in the mid-rounds for WR than there is for any other position in this class. Getting a guy like Ford, Kupp, Jones, or Stewart in the third seems like a better value than Davis or Williams in the first.

I'm in. Just tag me again when the signup rolls around

I think closer to draft day, especially after the combine we see Watt projected in the 20s. And I don't see Orr retiring suddenly creates a "need" at ILB, I think The KC project should be ready to roll. Everything we heard last year out of camp is that he looked good and was playing loose and fast until the incident with Pitta, and I think that caused him to shrink away. It's bad enough we had to sit a second-rounder for a full year, let alone him not be ready this year

FWIW the cbs big board seems to be more "realistic" at this point

It is always interesting towards the end of the draft season to look back and see how opinions have changed about players. Certainly the quick mocks in succession and quoting the OP make things unbearable when trying to sort through multiple pages of feedback

I'll say what I said last year. Don't get me wrong, Harbaugh is a damn good coach and he'll probably have success where ever he winds up at next.

The difference between a good coach and a great coach is the ability to change the message and keep your team motivated. We always hear about his different mantras throughout the season, but I think the message is getting dull over the years and isn't translating with the vets on the team. As much as I hate the Patriots and The hoodie, he's a great coach who has always managed to motivate his players at all levels despite his longevity.

If you look at the draft history since he got here, we've drafted 5 pro bowlers, 2 of which didn't make it as a Raven, and 2 more in Flacco and Rice drafted the first year he got here.(Another fun fact, since the team came to Baltimore, we had 21 first round picks, 14 of which were selected before 2008. Of those 14, 10 made it to the pro bowl, since Harbaugh arrived out of the 7 picks we've had only 2 make it to the pro bowl, Flacco and Mosely) We all try and give him slack for lacking playmakers, but I have to wonder how much he is involved in the draft and how much of that is also his fault. 

He won the super bowl 4 years after joining the team with a roster of talent which was built mostly before he got here. Since then the roster has been overhauled and he's had his guys in here we're 26-28. As much as he's done for the team I think it's time to move in another direction.