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Very true. Bottom line though is I believe theres a disconnect somewhere along the line. And I think the comments at the pressor and "continuity" reinforced it. Harbs say I want this. The OC and DC say ok we need these type of guys to run what we want. Now when you have multiple changes at OC you get guys drafted for say a Air Croyle and suddenly we have a hybrid WC guy. Than he turns into a traitor and you bring in a different type of guy, so now your scrambling because this guy you got suddenly doesnt fit the system, and you get Trestman using Kubes playbook because thats who we made moves for. The D has been in flux because you have a incompetant at DC but 2 professionals that say hey I need x y and z guy. So they go out and get them because of the trust. Enter Mosley, Zsmith, Davis, etc...The best teams have a single line. Were gonna do it like this. Period. And move the best people in respective to what they wanna run. Look at coaching changes around the league. The good teams will pass over a better qualified, maybe, person to get their guy in. Honestly weve failed at that recently also. Pees scheme doesnt match Trestmans. Positional coaches dont match their coordinator counterparts. We need to fix all that first.

Oh I never said it was easy. But lets look at the facts. We havent drafted a probowler in how many years? And coinicdently according to the Ravens how long has Eric been more in charge of the draft? Coincidence? Hey remember that guy Phil that everyone thought would replace Oz and he was a genious, etc.... How long did he last in Cleve? For that matter where is he at now? Yeah. My point is honestly Oz gets a ton of blame from people, but the reasons giving the blame he hasnt even been the one. Sure hes the face, but maybe hes not calling the shots.

No offense but you need to take a look at how the cap works along with NFL contracts. Joe has already received most of his "guaranteed" money. He'll be restructured, or he'll be cut. Period. No QB has gone into a season with a 28m cap hit, and no other team will pay him more than 20 a year. Its just how contracts and the nfl works. Linta is just being a clown. Nothing to see here.

Lewis wont be back. Unless we draft Ramsey at 6 I expect them to go in with Hill at SS, Webb at FS and Brooks and a later rd pick as the backups, unless they bring back like a Trawick or Levine on a basement deal, quite likely.

Just screams something being wrong with our strength and conditioning program doesnt it? But tbh alot of those guys that hit IR, especially in the later half of the season, IF we were still honestly in the hunt quite a few wouldve been out a week or 2 and come back. We IRd alot of guys this year that frankly didnt need it.

I was speaking to his obsession for taking small school guys in the later rounds and than we expect them to produce . Guess I shouldve clarified. Look at higher level and graded talent that hes passed on. Maybe they started getting gunshy after the failures of a couple bama guys and florida. Personally I think it goes deeper into our scouts and inability to identify talent, or perhaps the obvious disconnect with what type of players the coaches want to run their scheme, traveling through Oz and Decosta onto the lead scout and down to the region scouts. Maybe the message gets garbeled by the time it hits them so they are looking in the wrong places? Just ideas.

Preach, and mic drop. Mom Gene, not a fan of RSR? Why? Theyre the ones with the regular posters who actually ya know know what theyre talking about. Filmstudy I would trust when judging a line almost as much as Castillo,lol and Brian is regularly on the Fan as the Salary Cap expert. Not to mention dozens of guys who have played the game or coached it. Just dont get the hate between the 2 sites amongst some people. I started posting more over here cause I got put in the naughty category and given a timeout. But anyways as has been posted. Yards means jack squat. Ppg, 3rd down %, red zone % and turnovers matter far far more. We ranked near the bottom in every category. 8th in yards over the second half, whoppity do. How many games did the D give up a late long drive to lose the game?

We absolutely dont need to go to a Tampa 2 or even Cover 2. None of our LBs could cover a cold with a kleenex. Need cover 1 hybrid where everyone is crashing down and a fs back there to cover up, along witb a ss that can cover and be reactionary, which honestly Hill is. Thats his strong suit. React and go lay the wood.

? Your sig is pro bowl perriman. What does Williams have anything to do with it?

Given that your Sig line is a guy that hasnt played a down in the NFL, and honestly may never Ill take your words with a grain of salt. Sure theres talent at the smaller schools that you can develop. But hmmm when a guy is playing against another than next week will be serving fries at McDs and another guy who will actually be drafted in the NFL thats kinda different. Sure some no name schools guys prosper. No doubt. But look at our own ring of honor. You dont see so and so from backwoods Georgia southern quandrant, no third from the middle baycocks up there, do ya?

Hmmmmm, no we get poached from the few that ARE good. The losers seem to stay.

Pretty sure he means Pees.

I said it over on RSR DeCosta and his Im smarter than everyone and grabbing no name school people and theyll be stars crap has to stop. I hope he goes to Tenn. Go sink like the scrub that went back to Cleveland.

Might be worth it. If Pees, the punter and the st coach stay as secondary coaches than we better start thinking about using Joe and scoring 35+ a game. And Trestman dont be like Cam and let up! Dont sit on a lead, keep scoring. Cause you can forget the D stopping anything.

If Im sizzle I retire and say bye. Go spend time with my kids. Maybe take a broadcasting job or a college LB coach job close to my home. Why come back?

One of the worst pressors Ive ever watched. I pray 90% of it was bs coach speak. No major changes? Really? Oh well go infuse more talent and that will fix the problem, all while Oz is saying hell keep Joes 28m cap hit like no big deal. What you want guys to play for free becaise of that? We just lost our best coach on the D side of the ball, but no major changes? Thats a pretty big one. Almost all of that better be coach speak, otherwise you can see a max exidus in fans next year. Well still bleed purple, but forget getting our money going to the games, forget paying for sunday ticket, forget merchandise.

Really bad news. Guy was a star of getting the best out of our LBs. Sigh but the state of the presser, Peabrain will be back, theyll keep the idiots at secondary coaches and we wont see anything next year. Yay another losing season. Maybe than changes will be made.

Ok so didnt want this buried in the Fire Pees thread of the Changes for Next Year. This is solely focused upon the D, moving forward and some facts and stats. All the questions we as fans get are based upon "If not Pees than who?" and "Why switch to a 4-3 base". So I did a bunch of research that we can discuss. Harbs and Co pay attention ok? The "Greatest Defense the NFL has ever seen was the 2000 Ravens" yeah maybe some people would argue the Steel Curtain or the Bears D but the fact remains the 2000 team holds the records for fewest ppg ever in history, and won a SB with a jv squad of inept offense. FACT. That D ran a 4-3, ok really they ran more of a 4-6 bear but thats besides the point. The starters were, Boulware Lewis Sharper at LB and a front 4 of Burnett @ 267 pounds, Adams @ 350, Goose @ 340 and McCrary @ 260. Now your prob wondering why Im listing the weights of our front 4. Ill get to that. So there it was, along with a really good secondary and a aggressive DC this was the basis of the best ppg defense in the history of the NFL, who went up against the best rushing offense AND the best passing offense and stomped both that year. anyways. Here are the "magical stats and weights" for a front 4 in todays NFL. DT should average 307 pounds. DE 269. Carolina one of the most dominant fronts in the NFL weigh from LDE to RDE. 275 299 311 264. Minn with their #1 D in the league is 270 320 305 265. That said, here are the weights of our guys. Projected DTs in a 4-3 front Davis 320 BWill 335 The Interesting thing is Davis actually played in a 4-3 DT in college. BWill was a 3-4 NT but also played 5 tech. Now we have back ups and rotational: KLM 315 Jerrigan 302 Guy 305 Again all played in a 4-3 in college. DEs. ZSmith 275. Was projected coming out of college as a prototypical 4-3 end. Has the weight, this past week played in that EXACT same role and scored 2 sacks. This isnt rocket science here. Urban 295. Played all over the line. But at his height and arm reach, think Watt as far as knockdowns and passes to the flat just not getting past him. Now Upshaw played a 4-3 strong side end at Bama. Weight 272. No wonder he cant transition to a 3-4. IF we dont draft Bosa maybe he gets kept on to play the same 4-3 end here. And Urban is the backup on passing downs or specific plays they see or the competition. Like the Chiefs. Bunch of little passes in the middle and flat, you start Urban. The Steelers you start Upshaw. Its a win win, cheap. Getting to the LBs. Of course Mosley played MLB at Bama. Again a 4-3, so thats set. So we need a Sam, who is your jack of all trades LB, can sniff out runs and get through blockers, or play the pass, or even rush the QB at times. Suggs, Doom? Hmmm maybe Suggs can, but def not doom. And even Sizzle wouldnt be the best. Than you need a Will. Whos a fast speedy guy who can cover AND blitz the QB on occasion. Now we have ABrown, who thats actually what his role was in college, again no wonder he cant get on the field. However Id think Sizzle could fit, maybe. But theres the facts. And hence why we play alot of 4-3 under even when were not in the nickle. And still keep alot of the same personnel as for the front for such. Bosa is a 4-3 DE. The best in the draft. And thats what he is. Period. J.Smith is the best 4-3 Will LB in the draft. Period. Those are theyre grades by scouts and professionals all over the country. Sorta like ZSmith was graded as purely a strong side 4-3 End, period. We tried to make him a OLB. Brooks graded as a "robber" and st guy and a backup FS at best. Yet our scouts thought better. Elam, graded as a SS starter. His 1st year he started at FS and on athleticism was kinda serviceable. Move him to his natural position and now hes lost and cant tackle. Now this isnt a attack on the scouting, but obviously theres a disconnect. Stop trying to overthink, stop fitting square pegs in round holes. These are solid facts. The scouts who found Sizzle and changed his position arent the same ones we have now. The scouts we had even before that found Ray and Ed, but it wasnt rocket science. Ed was the best college FS in college. Ray the best MLB. Ogden was the best OT. They didnt reinvent the wheel. They said thats the best guy at his position. Period. None said well Ed could be a SS or a LB or Ray is light lets make him a SS. No they said thats his position and hes the best. Done. Anyways. Discuss away. Just presenting facts. Not one to complain without providing factual proof. So there it is.

The divorce and custody battle along with the injury, yeah I can bet hes not a happy guy, who would be???? Someone needs to get him a dog. I thought it was a lock he comes back. But what about if Ted goes to the Colts, maybe we move on from Doom or Webb? Rays gone, Haloti gone, than losing his fav coach? He might just say Im done and work on seeing his kids more. While I wouldve said 95/5 he comes back before if any of those happens or a combo I think its gonna get closer to 50/50.

Pagano already got his contract. His job was safe once Luck went down. I have a bad feeling hes gonna bring Ted over as his DC. As for Pees it has already been reported in numerous articles that this was the last year on his deal. Maybe theyre waiting on some of these playoff teams, cough AZ cough Seattle cough Minn or Denver even to get done to interview coaches.

Proven to be adequate. Thats the key here. Were NOT the Pats or Skins or most other teams in the league. We, like the hated Steelers are built upon the D. Thats football. Ravens D is not supposed to be "adequate" . Its supposed to dominate. And hurt people. Blue collar stuff. Ray Lewis Ed Reed HalotiNgata Johnson Boulware Goose McAllister on and on. Take that 15 yd penalty to bust a WR in their mouth. THATs what we need back.

Why? Orr has been getting more and more of his snaps and Mosley has been wearing the green dot all year. Honestly I think he retires. Hes clearly lost a step or 2. Too good of a cap savings to keep a guy to play a couple downs a series. Hes done.

I never understood why they cant run more on gameday. Its like they just keep the same schedule. Unfortunatly I dont think the Ravens or Os have anything to say about it. Thats MTA and if they havent changed by now I'm not sure they ever will. Baltimore Police have stepped up to deal with traffic but the MTA just seems hardheaded. Prob Steeler and Yankee fans running em,lol

Ok first off it has been widely debated about vaping and the toxic chemicals being inhaled, along with the nicotine and chemicals being injested in the upper respitory system rather than the lung. There are ZERO long term studies having been conducted. Do a google search, youll find studies done contradicting the study you mentioned. In any case maybe you didnt get my question about it. I personally dont want your cotton candy smelling vapor blown in my face in a cloud thick enough you can actually cut it with a fork anymore than someone wants to walk through cigarette smoke. Ignoring all health and anything else, bottom line its well rude. Cant think of a better term.

That would be nice. Honestly Id like to see a study done on switching to a trough(sp?) system vs urinals. Would ot get people in and out faster? While were talking TVs how about some by the "smoking sections"? Ive been asking for that ever since they went smoke free. And with that how come people can still vape or use ecigs whereever they want?