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Unbelievable isn't it? They are so ticked off they got caught...that is what all the media posturing is about. lol Their little "golden boy", Tom Terrific isn't so terrific after all!

Lmbo, I swear this literally made me laugh out loud! I was wondering if anyone else caught that!

Jo, I got news for you, that survey is a complete joke. The New England Patriots fan base has a quite effective little media "propaganda" force within their fan base that goes to every social site and comments on them detailing the "Patriot Way" that combats any and all speculation against the Patriots. It has been in operation for quite a while. Usually they are most active in the comments section on PFT, but since the Wells Report they have been most active on Facebook because they know it reaches more viewers. It has even been referred to on their own websites, telling their fans where to go and what to say. They scan all social media and find any slight crack of daylight that would point toward their agenda and plaster it all over social media in the hopes that something will stick so the local and national media will pick it up and hopefully run with it! They influence (rig) a lot of polls as well. Why do you think you haven't seen any of their fans on here lately? They are too busy on the major social sites try to pass off what they see as cracks in the Wells Report, hoping the media will pick up on those. It is the absolute truth, sadly! Their propaganda machine is no joke. LeGarrette BlountVerified account ‏@LG_Blount 3h3 hours ago THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!! SMH #PATSNATION STAND UP!!!!! 10,957 retweets 9,807 favorites ReplyRetweet 11K Retweeted 11K Favorite 9.8K Favorited 9.8K More Kyle Britten ‏@PATSandJAYS 3h3 hours ago @LG_Blount WE'RE STANDING MAN!!!!! #DOITFORTOM There ya go! Patriot propaganda machine in full force. Classic example. Hundreds more like it. Just click on the #PATSNATION hashtag above and you'll see it in full force. (beware of the language though, lol)

This makes me sick! Brady's agents explanation http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/05/11/agentstatement/MWXBbTLkKdAOLmZCSn9S9L/story.html?p1=Article_Trending_Most_Viewed Excerpt: " The report also presents significant evidence the NFL participated with the Colts in some type of pre-AFC Championship Game planning regarding the footballs. This fact may raise serious questions about the integrity of the games we view on Sundays." That comment is truly laughable!!! Excerpt: "Sadly, today’s decision diminishes the NFL as it tells its fans, players and coaches that the games on the field don’t count as much as the games played on Park Avenue." No, Yee it says the exact opposite!!! The only thing diminished is your client's legacy. Perhaps if Tom Brady was so concerned with his legacy, he should have thought about it before he made the deliberate decision in which he CHOSE to cheat.

TDubbs, the NFL is a private corporation, and as such is not required to be held to the same criminal standard as one would be in an American criminal court of law, that you alluded to above in your comment. "The NFL will apply a low standard of proof to the Deflategate investigation, which means that the NFL doesn’t necessarily need an air-tight case to conclude that the Patriots broke the rules." When applied to American Law, the NFL Rulebook standard compares to that of a civil case which is "preponderance of evidence" meaning that it is a lower standard of proof as defined as "more likely than not" that something occurred, as compared to a criminal case which holds to a much higher standard of proof by "beyond a reasonable doubt" which connotes that evidence establishes a particular point (to a moral certainty) that it is beyond dispute that any reasonable alternative is possible. This is from the actual NFL Rulebook as explained by PFT as to the difference in the standard of proof that would be applied by the NFL in its investigation cases: :http://profootballta...to-deflategate/ This is what a lot of folks are missing when discussing this case, this case isn't being tried in an American court of law, therefore the criminal case standard of proof of "beyond a reasonable doubt" DOES NOT apply to deflategate. But rather since the NFL is a private corporation with its own rules for operation, it goes by the civil case standard of "preponderance of evidence" which equals to a lower standard of proof which means it is more likely than not that something occurred based on the evidence discovered.

Brady's slap on the wrist from his letter from the NFL outlining his punishment: "Your actions as set forth in the report clearly constitute conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the game of professional football. The integrity of the game is of paramount importance to everyone in our league, and requires unshakable commitment to fairness and compliance with the playing rules. Each player, no matter how accomplished and otherwise respected, has an obligation to comply with the rules and must be held accountable for his actions when those rules are violated and the public's confidence in the game is called into question." Perhaps his daddy should have told him this earlier, lol.

NFL's rationale for the punishment in a nutshell: *"...Patriots have violated the NFL's Policy on Integrity of the Game and Enforcement of Competitive Rules, as well as the Official Playing Rules and the established guidelines for the preparation of game footballs set forth in the NFL's Game Operations Policy Manual for Member Clubs." From the NFL letter: "...several factors that merit strong consideration in assessing discipline." *club's prior record *the extent to which the club and relevant individuals co-operated with the investigation 1) the refusal by the club's attorneys to make Mr. McNally available for an additional interview 2) failure of Tom Brady to produce any electronic evidence (emails, texts, etc.) 3) significant that key witnesses —Brady, Jastremski, McNally — were not fully candid during the investigation. Source: http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/excerpts-from-nfls-letters-to-patriots-brady/ar-BBjD9HB?ocid=U142DHP

This link has excerpts of the NFL letters to Brady and the Patriots organization that explain the rationale for the punishment they received from the league, which basically covers the Wells Report findings to a tee. http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/excerpts-from-nfls-letters-to-patriots-brady/ar-BBjD9HB?ocid=U142DHP I personally feel that Brady should have been suspended for the entire season, at a minimum of six games at the very least.

I wouldn't count Cam Worthy out just yet! Sorry, you know I gotta pull for my guy! lol Seeing a lot of #81 catching in rookie camp.

You are correct. NFL security officials met with McNally several times before the NFL commissioned an outside investigation by the Wells Report. As seen in the comments below from the Wells Report, the investigators from the Well Report had interviewed McNally it appears once and requested a reinterview, but were denied by the Patriots legal team. "3 We made written requests to counsel for the Patriots on February 28, March 2, 3, 9 and 17 for a follow-up interview with McNally. Counsel for the Patriots repeatedly refused to make McNally available for a reinterview claiming, among other things, that McNally lived more than an hour away and already had missed work at his full-time job to attend earlier interviews. In addition, counsel for the Patriots asked that we provide in advance the subjects we proposed to cover, submit written interrogatories, and stated that “you have given me very little incentive or basis to try to get him back once more.” As noted above, we offered to meet with McNally at any time and any location that was convenient and explained that it would not be appropriate from an investigative standpoint to disclose in advance the specific subjects we intended to cover. We cautioned counsel for the Patriots in writing that: the “refusal to make Mr. McNally available for a brief follow-up interview raises serious concerns and is inconsistent with the obligations of the Patriots under the League Rules to provide „full support and cooperation‟ in the investigation. We also believe it is inconsistent with the public expressions of cooperation by the Patriots.” Counsel for the Patriots continued to refuse to make McNally available as requested." ~Pages 27, 28, 29 of Wells Report.

FYI: In the Wells Report, the summary and evidence is only 139 pages long, but it is double spaced so it really isn't quite as long as it seems, lol. The remainder of the report contains all the addendums relating to the scientific date regarding footballs, PSI, testing data, weather conditions, theory, etc. It is an easy read, and parts are quite entertaining (relating to the text messages).

Lol, Steve Smith literally stealing bases. He is such a character, lol. Looks like all the fellows and everyone had a great time.

Lmbo!!! No matter what you think of Olberman this is down right hilarious! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/08/keith-olbermann-tom-brady_n_7242736.html

Lol, I do. Bruski was saying that he "knows" Tom Brady and he "knows" Tom Brady would NEVER do anything to compromise the game, yada yada yada! Basically taking the exact same stance as Brady's agent. Bruski was just so angry it was almost comical. I am never amazed at the lengths Patriots and ex-Patriots go to defend that organization. Belicheck's brainwashing to "the Patriot Way" is amazing isn't it? lol "Hear no evil. see no evil, speak no evil" is alive and well in NE. lol

Given the pattern of exchanging gear from Brady to Jastremski and McNally, the Well Report even alludes that they did that in our game with them, as it appears they were paid off in gear to tamper with the footballs. "Jastremski believes that he gave McNally the requested gear—a hooded sweatshirt and a pair of sneakers—sometime around January 7, 2015, shortly before the divisional playoff game between the Patriots and the Baltimore Ravens." ~ Page 83 of Wells Report

Omg, listening to Ted Bruski on ESPN, what a homer trying to defend the Patriots...he must have had his bell rung tooooooo many times! I think he is going to have an apoplectic fit, lol. He looks like he is going to cry he is so mad.

Wow, Brady and his agent are just digging another hole! http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/07/don-yee-explains-bradys-refusal-to-provide-texts-and-email/

Well stated Salamander! Couldn't agree more.

Absolutely agree with your statement DraiNBamagE. The Wells Report even alludes that they did that in our game with them, as it appears they were paid off in gear to tamper with the footballs. "Jastremski believes that he gave McNally the requested gear—a hooded sweatshirt and a pair of sneakers—sometime around January 7, 2015, shortly before the divisional playoff game between the Patriots and the Baltimore Ravens." ~ Page 83 of Wells Report

I absolutely love this quote from the statement by Brady's agent today: "One item alone taints this entire report," the statement said. "What does it say about the league office's protocols and ethics when it allows one team to tip it off to an issue prior to a championship game, and no league officials or game officials notified the Patriots of the same issue prior to the game?" If I was the agent for Brady, I don't think I would be bring ethics up in a conversation, lol So in other words they were essentially saying: when the NFL found out we were cheating again for God knows how long, the least they could have done was to inform us ahead of time so we could have covered it up. We are questioning the league's ethics because they didn't inform us that they knew we were going to cheat so we could have changed things up on them and not gotten caught. How dare they? If that doesn't represent a sense of entitlement, I don't know what does. I swear ya'll , you can't make this stuff up, lol The Patriot's arrogance is unbelievable!!!

I can't wait to see Reed back home where he belongs tomorrow at his retirement press conference. Welcome home Ed!!!

I'd like to know when Kraft's apology is coming out to the fans of football. (sarcasm) Can you imagine what it was like being around the facilities of that stadium today after the release of the Wells Report? Brady with all his assertions that he did nothing wrong...he made his owner look like a senile octogenarian, he flat out lied to his head coach and had Belicheck in the bowels of the stadium concocting some weird atmospheric theory to explain away Brady's lies. You can't make this stuff up, lol. If it wasn't such an affront to the integrity and spirit of fair competition it would be amusing. It is time to get out the duckbills, because fans are tired of getting tinkled on and told it is raining! Goodell and Vincent it is time for accountability for the Patriots.

Wow! Hmm, I think Tom put the cloud over himself Mr. Brady. After reading this I can definitely see where the sense of entitlement comes from! Geesh Louise!!! http://nesn.com/2015/05/tom-brady-sr-league-had-to-cover-themselves-this-was-framegate/

I can't wait to see Willie McGinest and Heath Evans explain this! lol

I personally would like to extend a thank you to Mr. Wells and his committee for such a rigorous, in-depth, exhaustive, detailed, meticulous, comprehensive, all-embracing, all-inclusive report! It is vindication for every fan that is a true believer in the spirit of fair play and the maintenance of integrity to the game of football, imho.