Grapple Raven

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  1. Man, on that first drive Pitta took a real shot to the back of the head, like that was on purpose.
  2. Lord, I hope Burfict isn't playing in this game, lol. We don't need any injuries to start the off season. Last I heard he is still in concussion protocol.
  3. ellicottraven, that is why I posed the question I did earlier in the thread about how much impact Harbs actually has in the overall draft process. When I was reading and researching to find out as much as I could about how our draft strategy works and who is the most influential I went back as far as I could so that I could see if there had been any major trends and/or shifts in our draft strategy, especially since Harbs arrived to see if our recent down trend in the last five years or so could be traced to Harbs' influence. Personally, I thought there had been and from what I read it would seem to indicate that this could be possible. Here are some of the better sources I read that can give you good insight into our draft process and how it has evolved through the years, and you and others can draw your own conclusions: 2009: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/sports/football/19ravens.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 2013: http://grantland.com/features/bill-barnwell-baltimore-consistent-winning/ 2013: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000212663/printable/whos-ireallyi-in-charge-afc-north-hierarchies-run-the-gamut 2016: http://russellstreetreport.com/2016/02/01/lombardis-way/a-shift-in-the-ravens-war-room/ 2016: http://russellstreetreport.com/2016/10/18/lombardis-way/the-heat-is-on-for-harbaugh/ Here are two good articles that let you know about Harbs' philosophies: 2014: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/super-bowl-winning-coach-makes-the-most-of-each-moment 2016: http://www.ndinsider.com/football/notebook-harry-hiestand-s-influence-pays-draft-dividends/article_f86a17c2-0e81-11e6-b260-a3f63e6e91f8.html These articles have a lot of similarities and some differences, but they do give a good overall impression as to the draft strategy. Some folks may be familiar with the sources already, but when read all together they draw a definitive picture. The article from the National Catholic Register which was a Q & A, pretty much sums up Harbs' approach to how he views the draft as evidenced by the quotes below: "After you got back from Afghanistan, you went to the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. Is the combine really necessary? Do you get to learn things about players that you didn’t already know? At the combine, the scouts are mostly rounding out their knowledge of players they’ve already studied a lot. However, coaches are a different story, since we are just beginning the evaluation process on this draft class. Coaches can learn a great deal by seeing the players up close at the combine. We start with that information and build on it up until the draft in May. "You didn’t need to look for any kickers, did you? No, certainly not. Justin Tucker is a tremendous kicker and young man. He exemplifies what we look for in players. There’s the obvious necessity of physical strength and skills, but above and beyond those, we look for mental characteristics. Those can make or break a draft pick. Work ethic, decision-making skills and interest in team unity are some of the things that go to make up what we call that “football intelligence.” This outweighs physical qualities 3 to 1." Very interesting and insightful as to what he values most in a player, I'd say! I have more questions than answers, lol. If Ozzie has been so successful with the "right player, right price" mantra that emphasizes the "evaluating and valuing players" strategy so well over his tenure as the Ravens GM, as his drafting and free agency record suggests, then why the dip in the draft over the last five yrs. give or take? The outlier to that question could point to Harbs. Once Harbs' won a SB in accordance with his record, did he feel that gave him more leverage to step in and influence the draft? If Biscotti wanted the scouts and coaches to work together, unlike they didn't do well under Billick, could it be that Harbs gets the ear of Biscotti more than Ozzie? Obviously, something isn't working because this team lacks an identity imho...are we a defensive team or an offensive team...and if offense is it run or pass? Whatever the issues are, how can you stack a draft board when you don't have a clear vision of what you want the team to be? I would tend to agree with you ellicottraven, let the scouts scout and the coaches coach! This would only be a problem if the coach can't coach the team that is drafted, lol.
  4. I've read articles that have a wide variance of speculation on his involvement, but I've often wondered how much actual influence Harbs has in the overall draft process?
  5. I agree 100% Mili! I'm going to put it out there my pick a WR this year would be Isaiah "Zay" Jones. ECU WR, 6' 1", 197 lbs. Zay currently plays mostly short, intermediate routes but he can stretch the field too, projected to be a slot/possession receiver at NFL level or KR. Zay is a hands catcher and excellent route runner, drops are rare, gets YAC often when double/triple covered, will go up to get a ball and will come back to the QB. Watched this kid for four yrs. and he reminds me a lot of Boldin and SSS. Tough, gritty player with high football IQ and great instincts. He knows what it takes to play at NFL level as he is the son of NFL player Robert Jones. Projected currently to go in 2-3 rd. of draft. "Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina – FBS all-time leader in receptions (388) and nation’s leading receiver with 151 catches for 1,685 yards. Six games with at least 170 yards receiving this season." http://www.scout.com/college/football/recruiting/story/1739654-overlooked-to-record-breaker http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/zay-jones-elevating-draft-stock/
  6. Folks, please remember that this is a thread for discussing your feelings about the game that was just played, not for suggestions of future Ravens moves, there are other threads for that! Thanks.
  7. Oh, stick around the party isn't over, lol.
  8. And in my personal opinion a very BAD idea, just sayin', lol.
  9. Omg, my heart can't take it! lol
  10. Come on Defense!!! STOP 'EM!!!
  11. TD Ravens! Way to go Juice!!!
  12. I still feel a TD coming!!! Come on guys, you can do it! Let's goooooooooo Ravens!!!
  13. Good recovery Perriman!!! That took guts!
  14. Put Camp or Boyle in!
  15. Come on guys, I feel a TD coming!!!
  16. Come on Ravens, who wants to be a hero? I need a hero guys, somebody step up!!!
  17. We are going to come back, I just know it!!!
  18. Real cute that the announcers said that Ben put up two finger to the ref, bargaining with the ref that the Steelers weren't getting any OPI's today, and suddenly the Steelers get one...but it was OPI on that one. Cute that Ben is lobbying the refs for calls though, not!
  19. Come on Ravens, we need 7 pts on this drive! Go get 'em!!!