PerpetuallyBored74

He just joined our team a few weeks ago, how can you look at our strength coach?  

Seriuosly, we're just snakebitten.

If our strength and conditioning was the issue, then we wouldn't have even recent additions to our team getting hurt like that.

Question is moot.

Injuries and bad coaching (mainly from Pees) have already tanked us.

If our coaches have any sense, they'll start giving more playing time to unproven, healthy, recent draft picks just to see what they may have in them.

Of course, additional injuries may force their hand anyway.

Who was surprised?

When we were up 21 - 9, but failed to score again, I knew we were probably going to lose.

When Harbaugh settled for playing it safe, going for the field goal and overtime rather than take the risk of going for the TD and the win, I knew we were definitely going to lose.

That's when I turned off the TV.

I didn't watch the overtime portion.

Time to close this thread. No point in even talking about a trade now.

We should only make a trade if we believe it will help for next season.

Otherwise, don't bother.

All we are saying is Pees has had his chance.

(try singing it)

This team just isn't quite good enough to win the close games this season.

Starts with the FO decisions and the coaching, especially on defense.

But the players keep blowing golden opportunities too--and those penalties...

Of course, the injuries don't help matters.

This is not a Ravens team that knows how to play like a Raven.

Forget playoffs. This team might win 5 games this year.

Bright side: we may finally get that top 5 draft pick.

We're either too old or too young in too many spots and we rely on too many players with past injury histories who continue to keep getting hurt, and without enough quality depth behind those players as insurance.

Mainly because we've recently had too many weak drafts and too much dead money on our salary cap.

sounds like a Torrey clone, at least on paper.

at this point, I'll take that.

gladly.

Just IR him already.

That's what's eventually going to happen anyway.

Kamar Aiken is our #1 WR right now, I can't begin to fathom that....

SSS is 36, and with the way he's been overused, I'm not surprised that he got hurt. Same with Campanaro with his history.

And if Marlon gets hurt, that wouldn't shock me either. We're too dependent on WRs (and players in general) who are old or injury prone.

Thus our current state.

Even if Givens is better than expected, we still need a replacement for Camp. So, who do we turn to: Butler, Welker, Doss, Daniel Brown...our depth is gone. We're down to Aiken, Brown (who's not been that durable), Waller and now Givens.

Even if SSS comes back in just a few weeks, you expect him to play like he has prior to this injury?

Even Mattison wasn't this soft.

Ben being out makes little difference.

Not when Pees all but guarantees 0-4.

He'll make Vick feel like it was 2004 again.

Which is why Vick will play like it was 2004 again.

Bend until you break is our Achilles heel.

Pees is Cam 2.0, can't get out of his conservative comfort zone either.

If Pagano gets fired, we better grab him.

Stop throwing those high rainbows, Joe.

Step into your throw and toss the ball more on a line than an arc.

Sorry, I was trying to say at the very most it was face guarding, but as you pointed out this ain't high school, so faceguarding wouldn't be called there. So to clarify (or attempt to) the contact was incidental (IMHO) and not to the level that a flag should be thrown for PI.

Incidental contact only applies to bumping a WR while looking back for the ball. Or getting your feet accidentally tangled. If you don't look back for the ball, then incidental contact doesn't apply. So, yes it was and should have been called a PI.

We did show some fight though. I only wish Trestman was not so vanilla in the first half. They blitzed and played the run the whole first half and we did not roll Joe out one time. I admit I was very upset by the lack of adjustment.

This is inexcusable on Trestman's part.

Especially after we established the run enough in the 2nd half to start working designed rollouts off of play-action.

Watching highlights of other games where QBs with actual receiver corps are actually completing passes to them.

For actual TDs.

Will we as Ravens fans ever get to see this with our team? Looks like we're drafting WR high again next year. (At least we better)

Tallb post game: "On the 2 INTs, they ran plays we saw in preseason"

First INT: Talib read the route, stepped in front of SSS, bumped him right before Joe threw the pass, knocking Steve off stride, allowing Talib to catch the pick six. Should have been flagged for illegal contact as the bump happened further than 5 yards downfield.

Second INT: the linebacker faceguarded Crockett, running into him without looking back for the ball. Should have been PI.

2 crucial no-calls = 2 crucial turnovers.

Also SSS needs to catch that TD pass.

Flacco had no reliable recievers today, and even worse pass protection.

Nobody on offense other than Joe and the RBs showed up today, squandering an impresssive defensive performance.

Finally. ENOUGH WITH THESE INJURIES!!!

While all teams have to deal with injuries as part of football, now more than ever it is obvious that injuries to our starters will sink this team like a stone. We don't have the depth nor the favorable schedule to overcome these things two years in a row. I can see a final record anywhere between a healthy 11-5 division winner to an injury plagued 7-9 third place for this team.

 

I do think they will be .500 at the bye, come back with 3 straight victories to give much needed hope to playoff dreams. However, we lose to Miami and Seattle, rebound against the Chiefs and are faced with division rivals to either win the division outright, make the playoffs as a wildcard or suffer losses to miss the playoffs.

 

While it would be easy and gain less negs to say we find a way to go 10-6 and make the playoffs, I am going on the record at 9-7 and missing the playoffs this year. I will be rooting for this team to prove me wrong, but I just have a bad feeling about this upcoming season.

 

Just wanted to be on the record and hope to eat crow. See you guys Sunday.

I don't like all these injuries either. When have we gone into the season this banged up already?  And we have to play such a brutal schedule to begin the season when we're already thin at several positions because of these injuries. I think we start slow but finish strong and manage to reach 10-6 which will be enough for a wild card and maybe even to win the division.

I don't think we can read much of anything from their preseason performance. Because Aiken knew he was going to be the #2 and Brown knew he was going to be the #3, neither one having to worry about fighting for a spot on the team or even to improve their ranking. And it was obvious in the 1st game that our passing offense is going to heavily feature the TEs and RBs, so again in the 1st game, they seemed to be going through the motions--the intensity did pick up a bit in game 3 against the Redskins, but then Aiken got piledriven and from there it was back to taking it easier and playing it safer.

As much as we can't afford to lose SSS, we also can't lose Aiken or Brown (unless Camp can stay healthy) because Waller and Butler aren't ready and who knows when Perriman will recover and be ready to play again, or how ready he'll be after missing so much time and reps..

We're not going to truly know what we have in Aiken & Brown until after several weeks into the regular season.

But even if they need to be schemed open, so what? As long as they get open and catch the ball when it's thrown to them who cares about how they do it.

Rewatching the game, I see why Butler was unable to hang on to that sideline pass from Schaub.

Because the Saints corner who was trailing Butler reflexively tried to jump over him when Butler was on his back, and inadvertently kicked the ball out of Butler's hands when he tripped over him.

Which could've been disastrous for Butler as the corner nearly kicked him in the crotch when he kicked the ball.

Btw, that corner hurt himself when he tripped over Butler. Just a freak play all-around.

Is it me or does John Harbaugh seem fired up this year?

 

Ever since the beginning of TC I've noticed a slight change of attitude and/or coaching style that I haven't seen during past seasons. Granted, maybe I missed the Kevin Byrne article from last year at the opening, but I can tell he, Oz, and Bisciotti are going to work. 

 

Call me crazy, but John just sounds like last year may have left a small chip on his shoulder with how things ended...even some of the players mentioning how this team won't be the same as last year. Either way I have complete trust in John for putting the best and baddest team out there regardless.

I suspect there's more to what the Pats did "behind the scenes" in both last year's and the 2011 playoff loss, some sort of shenanigans with the play clock was it? So, Harbs may know, or at least believe, more than what's been publicly revealed. Because he does seem to be a man on a mission this year.

Or it could be he's just tired of losing in such heartbreaking fashion in every Ravens' playoff loss since 2010's.

This is what Wikipedia has to say about Rashaad...

 

"Melvin made his debut on December 14, 2014. In his first game, he was a pleasant surprise on the Ravens' hobbled secondary, recording 5 tackles and 1 pass deflected. In his first start the next week, Melvin continued his success, recording 8 tackles and a forced fumble. In week 17 against the Cleveland Browns, Melvin had 4 tackles.

However, this success would not carry into the playoffs. On January 10, 2015 against the New England Patriots, Melvin allowed 12 catches on 15 passes thrown his way, giving up 224 yards and two touchdowns, according to Pro Football Focus."

 

As 2nd year CB, he needs as much TLC from us as we gave Jimmy Smith in his first 2 years. The kid has potential.

How many of those 12 were really on Melvin and not on our safeties?

And of those that were on Melvin, how many could he have better defended if Pees hadn't given so much cushion with his way off-coverage, bend but don't break, semi-prevent D? Not that I'm suggesting that we should have pressed these WRs, but we should have tightened up the coverage to not allow these shifty quick guys to have so much space underneath to work with. That's playing right into the strength of their passing game.

And come to think of it, also the weakness of some of our DBs--Elam in particular is horrendous at tackling in space.

According to reports, Marlon is over his back injury and now just has a hamstring issue.  My guess is he'll be fine within a week or two.

You have 100% trust in our team's reports?

We're the team that once had Yanda undergo "secret surgery" during the season.

Only the Patriots are more deceptive about the severity of injuries--remember how Lee Evans was always just a few weeks from recovery? Or how we got fined after Ed Reed let slip that he'd been playing with a shoulder injury that the team never listed on the injury report?

I'll believe 100% that Marlon Brown (and all our other injured) only has a minor setback when I see him return to the field.

For now, I'm hopeful, but slightly suspicious of these reports.

isnt the IR-DTR for one player only? if so i think urban would get that slot over marlon, we have a logjam of wr's and virtually everyone is around the same range as marlon talent wise or better, urban on the other hand was supposed to be a starter/50% snap count guy for us and as odd as this sounds we dont have the options at DE that we have at WR

I think the question is can you count on Urban to stay healthy for even one game?

At least Marlon has shown some durability by playing the entire 2013 season, and he did bulk up to get stronger and tougher.

More than likely, they'll give the IR-DTR to Urban and cross their fingers, and if Marlon needs extra time, they'll deactivate him if it's just for a few weeks, but if it's longer, he gets IR'd or cut with the understanding that as soon as a roster spot opens, he gets resigned--maybe for a bit more money than he was previously making, though I can also see Marlon getting the Bajema treatment too this year. Because we are that deep in WRs with 3 who have comparable skillsets to Marlon (Aiken, Butler, and Daniel Brown who I can see on our PS) As for Waller, he's a lot faster than Marlon, so they don't compare.

Our coaches seem high on Marlon, so who can say for sure what they're going to do with him, just wish he'd get and stay healthy. Same goes for all our other oft-injured guys. We've got championship caliber talent but much of it can't be counted on for the whole season.

I say we sign Rice, Aldon Smith, grab Hernandez now since no one wants him, trade for Greg Hardy, Brandon Marshall and Santonio Holmes and sign Chris Cook who we let walk yesterday. Do it!

And since we could use a backup QB with a stronger arm, we should see if Jeff George is still looking for a job.

Or imagine the headlines for a successful comeback for JaMarcus Russell or Vince Young.

For a long term option, there's Art Schlicter, who should be up for parole around 2018, though like Aldon he would have to be reinstated first. So, I guess he would be plan C (from Cell Block D?)