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Aiken went from leading receiver to all but forgotten. He has had some critical drops and that can't happen with a team pushing for the playoffs and have veterans that are better. It was frustrating watching him miss the opportunities he had.

Problems with the Ravens 1. Harbs Hire coordinators that are friends. Does not appear to have influence over play-calling or scheme. Can’t have a head coach that can not influence the game plan. The result is a revolving door of coordinators. Ravens hire former coaches because Harbs can’t teach young coordinators that would be on the staff for a long period of time. Almost every week he talks about running the football, CBs having bad eyes/technique, being disciplined, vague clichés like ‘play winning football’. Yet what you see on the field is Joe passing the too much, CB with the eyes in the backfield, stupid penalties, lack of urgency. I don’t think the players or coordinators listen to him or fear him. You can’t pay everybody, so a coach must develop young players. Ravens rely on old guys to be starters way too much. That's why the can not sustain high level of play the last few season. If the talent was that bad, they would not be in so many close games. It’s play calling and poor execution. That is the head coaches responsibility to control. 2. Joe Flacco I have defended Flacco for years. Many fans stated his contract would handicap the Ravens and they were right. Because of the contract, FO could not bring in or retain top talent. Flacco can not carry the offense. He needs a run game, o-line, and a receiver like Boldin that’s open even when he is covered. He needs an OC to call the plays and whisper in the head phones when to change the play. He need a QB coach to maintain his mechanics After 9 years and $120 M, that’s one player with a lot of needs. A guy you paid to be a solution, but is often a problem. His pick yesterday was embarrassing. 3. OZ/DeCosta. Hortiz The evaluation from scouts and drafting has been terrible for years. Even OZ stated that much. Ravens have need playmakers on both sides of the balls, yet that continue to draft DT,DE, and ILBs. Drafting receivers that can’t catch. They need a new scouting department even if it means paying more to steal from another team.

I am not sure it was effort or that fact Bengals are just more talented than the guys we have and the coaching is better. Harbs comment that "its only natural" to not put out a better effort is unacceptable. It contradicts everything he said going into the game. Ravens played this game like they just wanted to pad stats. Flacco targeted Pitta 16 times, throwing the ball 49 times. Is he on an incentive contract because the problem all year was throwing the ball too much. Harbs hire his friends Joe throws to his buddy and can't read a defense (poor work ethic) Pees plays if safe with a lead OZ cant draft WR ,CB,S well This team is a mess. They are lucky to be 8-8. They are a tip ball away from 7-9. Anything less than many changes is unacceptable.

First cuts. 1. Joe Hortiz is in his 19th season with the Ravens and 7th as Baltimore’s director of college scouting. He is responsible for all aspects of the college process, coordinating the schedules and cross-checking duties of the area and regional scouts. Hortiz also manages the team’s draft preparation and the evaluation and ranking process of hundreds of NFL draft-eligible prospects. If he is in his 7th year, then that matches the time when the Ravens drafts really declined. 2009 – present. Long list since 2009 of failure to effectively evaluate talent He will be gone before Steve even considers releasing OZ. 2. Marty Mornhinweg who is in his second year with the Ravens, took over as offensive coordinator after Week 5 in 2016. He originally joined the Ravens in 2015 as quarterbacks coach. Prior to his 2015 Baltimore arrival, the 22-year NFL coaching veteran spent the 2013-14 seasons as offensive coordinator of the New York Jets So he’s been with the Ravens and Jets. Both offensive units stink and QBs don’t progress. He should not make it pass tomorrow imo. 3. Juan/ Castillo, a 35-year coaching veteran, is in his fourth season with the Ravens and his third as the team’s offensive line coach. Castillo was promoted to coach the offensive line in 2014 after serving as the Ravens’ run game coordinator in 2013. Last season (2015), Castillo guided an offensive line that helped produce a franchise-record 4,271 net passing yards and the second-most total net yards (5,749) in team history. In 2014, Castillo led an O-line that permitted just 19 sacks, the second fewest in team history (17 in 2006), ranking behind only Denver (17) as the NFL’s fewest. Ravens have not been a good run team since Castillo was hired. His 2014 accomplishments align with when Kubiak was here. Failed to develop o-linemen. Hurst, Jensen, Wesley which limits quality depth. His title as run game coordinator was a bad joke.

Harbs is the coordinators boss. How many coordinators will Oz have to hire before he starts looking at the coach? I read Greg Roman formerly of Bill and 49ers may be in the mix. Another friend of Harbs. SMH

In other words the slow secondary weak pass rush poor Wr bunch game plan of OC or offensive system are not Harbs responsibility? If not Harbs responsibility , then who is to blame? How about being 31-33 over the last 4 years? Maybe the problem is having a head coach who has so little responsibility in the problems that he is clueless on how to fix them.

yeah, he also inherited a losing team. We were 5-11 when he got here in spite of all the "greatness" he inherited. What does Harbs bring to the table? In the 2007 5-11 season Billick had McNair who was old and injured and Kyle Boller. The defense was top 5, solid offensive line with Yanda, Grubbs, Jason Brown, Gaither, pro bowl TE Heap and Wr Mason were already on the team. Rex Ryan as DC, FB Lorenzo ONeal, RB McGahee. That's a team with great players. Harbs was setup for success. When did you start following the Ravens?

I'm happy for Pitta who is blessed to come back from such a devastating injury.

I don't buy the emotional let down. This team is not well coached, has a limited pass rush, and has a secondary that most receivers can take advantage of.

I only question one point. Oz mentioned in last years end of year conference that Decosta has been leading the draft room and taking lead on personnel decisions. Steve said DeCosta is like having 2 GMs. Because of that, I think you keep been both, but get a new fresh perspective from outside.

The problem with counting on draft spot is the Ravens have not drafted playmakers in the first 2 rounds in a long time. Offensive lineman are safe bets in the first round. Finding the elite pass rushers, WR, CB, and safties are what improves your team. It's also what OZ has not done well as of late.

Once Flacco got paid and the front office could not afford to deal Harbs a loaded hand, he has done nothing but throw coordinators and players under the bus. His history of winning was when he inherited pro bowlers and HOFs on defense had a solid offense line had productive vets and free agents like Heap, Mason, Maghee and a better QB than Billick ever had has a front office constantly provides him with former head coaches on his staff since they know he can't do it on his own Now that he has to COACH and develop, he can't win

It would take all of 10 seconds for Harbaugh to get another job. Don't hold your breath on Perriman. Not a Player just another WR "Roster Filler" It might take Harbs 10 seconds to find another job, but to think missing playoffs 3 out of the last 4 years won't warm his seat is a mistake. Harbs inherited a team that in 2006 was 13-3 and 2007 was 5-11 because QB was hurt. Ownership was tired of Billick. Since the vets left in 2012, what has he done? ... Make the playoffs in one season sliding under the door as a wildcard, go through 3 OCs (Caldwell, Trestman, Marty), one of the most penalized teams, draft picks not developing or seeing significant playing time, and made in game decisions that cost the team wins. 2017 is a hot seat year. You forgot to add the Super Bowl WIN. Also forgot to mention IF Lee Evans hangs onto the TD Pass in NE in 2011 we would have made two SB appearances. Ask the fans of the Eagles, Browns, Bills, Chargers, Bengals, Texans, Titans, Jags, Chiefs, Falcons, Rams, Cardinals, Bears, Lions, Vikings, and several others how they feel about the Ravens. Harbs is that you? Because other teams are bad, don't expect me to lower my expectations. The team is bigger than blind loyalty to its head coach

Same "the guys fought hard" rhetoric. 64 plays and only 15 runs. Absolutely pathetic coaching job. In a meaningless game you drop back your QB 49 times, passing on the 2 yard line. Pathetic. Mosley carted off. Harbs blows a lot of hot air and false hope. Is there any doubt if they beat the Steelers, then Bengals would have knock them out of the playoffs.

Team looks like they mailed it in this week. First time the team looks like they will not play hard for Harbs. His seat is getting hotter. Defense is being carved up. All this without AJ Green.

First drive and Flacco has been hit twice and almost picked. Is an injury worth just passing to pad numbers in a meaningless game?

It would take all of 10 seconds for Harbaugh to get another job. Don't hold your breath on Perriman. Not a Player just another WR "Roster Filler" It might take Harbs 10 seconds to find another job, but to think missing playoffs 3 out of the last 4 years won't warm his seat is a mistake. Harbs inherited a team that in 2006 was 13-3 and 2007 was 5-11 because QB was hurt. Ownership was tired of Billick. Since the vets left in 2012, what has he done? ... Make the playoffs in one season sliding under the door as a wildcard, go through 3 OCs (Caldwell, Trestman, Marty), one of the most penalized teams, draft picks not developing or seeing significant playing time, and made in game decisions that cost the team wins. 2017 is a hot seat year.

I'd like to see Ravens walk off the field completely healthy.

That's right throw Flacco out there with Hurst in the line-up. SMH

My only argument against Rex defense has been lit up by Tom Brady during Ryan tenure. Bills defense has been no better than Ravens lately no matter the QB. Pees at least keeps the game close no matter who the Ravens have play or where. His lack of aggressive play calling with a lead is a concern. Everything looks like prevent defense when there is no pass rush.

I wouldn't be upset if they did not fire Harbs, but you have to put him on notice. He cost the team 2 games on decision making the team does not play disciplined on the field, too many penalties he can't control he Coordinators. They run the show on game day without supervision. The bone heading play calling needs to stop on both sides of the ball. Does not have an identity anymore. They missed 3 out of last 4 playoff. That's not a winning culture. Some team would be wise to give McDaniels in NE another chance or Kyle Shanahan. A young coach to a team with vets to help control locker room, established front office, and a QB already in place. All of the 4 changes revolve around OZ job. You know he has not performed well if blog writers are pointing it out.

I agree. A few changes and the Ravens could be a serious contender next season. 1. They need an OC with a run first mentality. Kubiak did not make Joe better. He made the run game better and was a better play caller. Both helped Joe who is not a cerebral QB and can not carry an offense on his own. There is talent of the offense already to attract a good OC. 2. Get another voice in the draft room, contracts, and scouting department. Ravens went into last offseason talking about getting playmakers, pass rushers, and guys to close out games. They missed on Correa ,who was supposed to be a pass rusher at that position in the draft, moved back in the 2nd round with consensus top talent on the board, waited until round 4 to add to an injury prone and slow secondary, and doubled down on D-linemen with talent already on roster. They made bad choices on contracts and who they ,IMO, did not do enough to keep. Wright was a bad signing, Webb was paid too much money, and Hester was a waste of time and money. Yet not enough cap so pester Boldin to take a pay cut, can't keep KO because he's too expensive. Let Pollard and Stewart go. Both are not great players but is better than Levine and Elam who they kept. SMH. OZ is always bringing old players to cover that fact he misses in the draft. When undrafted guys out play guys you draft in the 1st and 2nd rounds, you need another voice in the room. I'm not saying fire OZ, but he need a different voice in the room to make these personnel decision. DeCosta is not the answer either. Drop the money ball mentality and be aggressive to get a game changer. 3. Pees is not the issue. Ravens need a thumper in the secondary and better CB. The fact that Pees can have these guys in the top 5 defense for most of the year with limited pass rush and poor CB proves he's a good coach. I would not put these guys on an island, blitzing with the game on the line. They are not athletic enough to make plays. Safeties are too small to bring down boney Antonio Brown. 3.

Truth? All you are doing is making stuff up. Webb signed his deal in 2012 (Boldin was still here) & Jimmy signed his deal last year - 3 years after Boldin left. So the Ravens didn't cut Boldin to sign Webb & Smith like YOU claim. And if you knew anything about football, you would know that a O-line position coach has NOTHING to do with what happens in the actual game on game day or that an o-line coach has nothing to do with our rushing stats. Again, I'll take the word of experienced experts in the field over a nobody on the message board. Castillo has had to work with crap (Hurst, Shipley, etc) and still put together a decent o-line. KO - ever hear of him? Who did he learn from? The Ravens started 2 rookies on the left side of their o-line this year - that's unheard of. And they played great. But all you want to do is regurgitate ignorant, uninformed monkey poo. If OZ can admit his recent drafts were below standard, why are you defending it. A position coach has nothing to do with what happen on the field? And I know nothing about football. lol One statement Castillo has to work with crap then the next you credit him with drafting KO. What a joke. It's not about when but who he chooses to pay or be willing to let go.

Where is Pollard playing at? Where did he play last year? He didn't because he sucks. Stewart wasn't cut - he signed with his hometown team much like Lebron did with Cleveland (He wasn't going to sign with anyone but the Broncos) How did Terrence Brooks do against the Ravens for Philly? - oh wait, he was riding the bench the entire game. They didn't cut Boldin, they traded him because he was one of the highest paid WR at the time and wouldn't take a pay-cut. That saved money was spent on signing Dumervil. Noah Spence had substance abuse issues, I guess you haven't been around long enough to hear about the former Ravens "off-field" issues. No way was he getting drafted by this team at that time. He's got 1 more sack than Matt Judon - that's a high 2nd Round vs 5th Round, you think that's better? Juan Castillo is considered one of the best O-line coaches in the NFL. Not by a bunch of clowns on the internet, but by Owners, Coaches, GMs, Owners, etc - people that actually know what they're doing and don't just make up facts on a message board. That's why he runs all the O-line drills at the NFL combine (the place where all teams send their scouts and coaches to evaluate the talent. Kinda makes sense to have one of the best guys running players through the drills, doesn't it?) Try to not make stuff up when you post, it doesn't lend credence to your argument. I know the truth hurts. Tell me how many sacks Correa has? Spence or Ngakoue would be more useful to go along with a Suggs or Doom. The fact your 5th rounder is more productive proves the 2nd round was a miss. Why ask Boldin to take a pay cut in the first place? Then pays Smith and Webb top money to get burned and be injured on the sideline. Pay Wright who is a liability You are actually defending Castillo. What O-line have you been watching for the last few years. Most penalized, near the bottom of league in rushing. Castillo is best o-line coach like Billick was an offensive guru. It is not about reps but results.

Absolutely nothing! It would be a disaster to go out there for pride and have Stanley, Flacco, Mosley, Wallace, Pitta, Dixon tear up a knee or worst. Use this as an opportunity to evaluate players on the bubble, future contract, and coaching schemes going forward. You can say what you want about skill level, but they played with heart and have nothing to prove. Yes, injuries are part of the game. But for the sake of 9 wins, who are you willing to sacrifice in a meaningless game. treat it like a 5th preseason game.