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    I thought I saw something like that but I think it was at the end of the game. I didn't get the impression Harbaugh was angry. He was having a conversation with Weddle, maybe about how the game went, then Weddle perked up and pointed to the scoreboard/video screen.

    At the time, I took it as a 'Man, this game... but look at the end result!'

    Don't know, though.

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    3 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

    I think we're probably reaching a peak in athletics. I don't think we'll ever reach a point where we have 400 pound big men running 4.80 40's or anything insane. I think most of what we'll see in the NFL from here on out will be men comparing relatively well to the ones today. I mean, we can look back at the 90's and I'd say those players were probably at least similar and that's 20-30 years ago, almost.

    And just to be fair; America probably easily had guys of comparable size today who were that athletic back then as well. Just back then, I don't think the money was as good and most of those athletes had side jobs in the offseason, so I'm not sure that people put a huge want into playing. Just a thought; don't know if it's true.

    However, on the topic of sizing up Jim Brown, yeah, I cannot deny that he was big, fast, and had vision. Clearly an extremely good athlete because he also played lacrosse (fastest sport on foot). Clearly it was some God given gifts that helped him excel... in his era. I just think if you had put Emmitt Smith or Barry Sanders back then, they'd have done just as much, easily more.

    That's a good point, too. But you mention how athletes had side jobs and Jim Brown was not immune to that (LINK)

    This could be the athletic peak but imagine if Brown had the same access, time, knowledge, and technology to train that current athletes do. That was my point.

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    59 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

    When I think about it, I look at who would be the best throughout any era? I don't think Brown would hold up in today's NFL. At least, not in the way he did back in the 60's and early 70's.

    Of course not, but we could look back 40-50 years from today and declare AP would not hold up to the hyper athletes of that era, too. If you size up his competition, why would you also not size up Jim Brown? Similar concept to monetary inflation.

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    11 hours ago, baltimorefan328 said:

    I don't know why I like this so much, but one overlooked thing from the game: On Tavon Young's return of the extra point, the first 2 guys to chase him down in the end zone were Judon and Canady. It's such a grind and the season is such a grueling process I just really enjoyed seeing two other rookies chase after a fellow rookie to congratulate him on a big play. Probably making something out of nothing, it was just fun to see 3 guys drafted together support each other like that on the field

    Good observation, rookie classes usually bond because of their shared experience and they've spent more time with each other than others. A lot of them room together before they get settled, too. Stanley and Lewis have bonded, as well.

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    12 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

    The indifferent......I wish Joe Haden was a Raven. 

    He gets toasted his fair share but you could do a lot worse

    15 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

    Yes, except none of them ever take the time to make a message board post second-guessing a decision that actually worked.

    There en lies the difference. 

    Do people usually do that? I've seen a lot of posters say things like 'Yeah, it was risky/ballsy, but we got it done' or something. In the end, does it really matter?

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    10 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

    I'm not sure what you mean with regards to Brown. I'm saying what makes ot less impressive was he's probably the same size as most of the defensive players he went against. 

    Payton, in my opinion, may be the most underrated up their with Gayle Sayers. You just never hear about either of them, but they're both top 10, easy

    But Brown being that big/strong/fast in that era was what made him so rare and dominating. I'm saying the fact that Brown had those athletic traits made him the greatest, especially when athletes in general were not up to those standards in those days.

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    10 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

    Fans ONLY ever bring this up when the aggressiveness doesn't work to their favor. Its purely hindsight analysis, nothing more.

    Should have kicked when you don't convert, should have gone for it when you do.

    Well I remarked during the game, before the play, that I didn't agree with going for it.

    I said it aloud so you'll have to take my word, I guess... But fans DO think about / grapple with the decision before it occurs. We're not watching the game for the first time.

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    3 hours ago, frozen joe flacco fan said:

    The Good: Hestor, Moseley, Wallace, Steve Smith, Sr., Perriman, Tucker, Pees' adjustments, Clarence Brooks. Oh yeah, then there's Pitta & The Elite Guy.

    The Bad: Defense giving up 20 points in the 1st quarter.

    The Ugly: John Harbaugh's panicked decision to go for it on 4th and 2 at the beginning of the 2nd quarter. Head coaches should never set their team up for failure OR send a message to the team that they are in a panic situation. In that situation, he should have kicked a FG and made the score 20 -5. Instead, John panicked. Fortunately, his team did not. His atrocious call was eclipsed only by Jason Garrett's decision to do an on-side kick against the Redskins early in that game. In both situations, the HCs were bailed out by their teams on the road, where it is very difficult to win.  

    Forgot about that call. It was foolish for sure, especially when we can't really run. In his defense, he was trying to get momentum but I would not have gone there.

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    The answer to me is no... but if  this defense is like last seasons except for a few more timely turnovers, we can make a season out of it.

    Dean Pees being on the field is making a difference, perhaps... But we were woefully unprepared for Cleveland out of the gate. To me, that's coaching.

    Of course, it's also coaching that lead to the adjustments. But they killed us on 3rd-down and were marching on the last drive, which is a Pees specialty.

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    Good: Passing game beyond the mid-point of the second quarter, Flacco spread the ball around and rekindled his connection with Pitta - it paid huge dividends. Steve Smith had a couple beautiful catches after the half, he also blocked the crap out of his defender on the big Pitta play. The defense did not allow a point after their disastrous start and got timely turnovers at the end of each half, that was the difference from last season. Lots of pressures on McCown and, obviously, he was feeling the effects of a fewhuge hits by Jernigan and Mosley. Lots of young players got in on some action, too.

    ST played outstanding, Hester flashed at returner, Tucker nailed big kicks, and of course a couple of blocks and the XP return. Incredible mental fortitude by this team to stay in the game and grind back for a win. Great job by a lot of leaders on this team to make that game count.

    Bad: The start of the game, they came out and dominated us. It was a disgusting effort, especially by a defense that was so good a week before. Beyond that, the defense kept them from scoring but we saw a lot of poor play and a TON of third-down conversions that should never have happened. That reminded me of last year and Pees probably undid all of the good will he gained in Week 1. The secondary was routinely torched.

    Penalties hit us pretty hard this game, too. Some big plays were called back because of them and it frustrated their progress.

    On offense, Justin Forsett looked about as bad as I had seen him. Slow to the hole, indecisive, and went down easy. He also had the ultra-bonehead play to step out of bounds in the last 3-4min which gave Cleveland a chance... if he had not done that, there would be no Pryor catch / penalty and then Mosley INT - it counts, Justin messed that up. Lots of drops on the day, too. Flacco was getting beat up again but kept getting the ball out to avoid sacks. Joe's two interceptions were bad throws.

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    19 hours ago, Willbacker said:

    I believe it 5 modern day players, a contributer (like a coach or owner) and then 2 players selected by the the veterans committee who are usually shoo=ins. Not 100% sure tho..

    The 5 I would put in

    Kurt Warner(QB), Alan Faneca(OL), Terrel Owens(WR), John Lynch/Steve Atwater(DBs just one of these tho since I believe they completely equal with my nod going to Atwater cuz of longevity), and Morten Anderson(PK). Jimmy Johnson would be my coach.

    Some really close ones tho would be Terrel Davis who I don't believe that Elway would have won his SBs without and Simeon Rice who was sackmaster central. How come Kevin Greene(3rd most sacks ever) was not on the list? He should not only be on the list he should be in.

    One interesting name to me tho might be the 1st NT in Fred Smerlas who ate up blockers and allowed guys like Bruce Smith and Cornelius Bennett to make plays but NTs don't get stats or no love but they contribute mightily. Makes me curious who is actually gonna be the 1st true NT to actually make the HOF. Wilfork??

     

     

    Good point, I just threw 8 in but you're correct there have to be sub-categories in that.

    Davis was great but his great years were so abbreviated. He only played 7 years in his career and his first 4 started out incredible - average 1600 yards rushing, almost 300 receiving, over a dozen TDs, of course the 2000 yard season and 3 straight All-Pros. But injuries struck and his final 4 years he only averaged ~400 yds per year. He wasn't the same guy. Tough to do it but I think the voters look for longevity as well as great performance and stats

    You'll be happy to know Greene got in this past year lol!

    And Wilfork has a good shot. Other NTs of our era, Casey Hampton, Ted Washington, and Jamal Williams just were not as dominant or played as long as he did.

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    Just now, 757RavensFan said:

    As much as I would love for Tyrod to succeed, he had some horrible throws last night.  Many of which I would consider routine for an avg NFL QB.

    One negative that I've read about Tyrod is his lack of accuracy/touch with passes in the 10 -20 yard range.  

     I agree and that's perspective of you.

    There was a bad one right before the half where he threw a checkdown pass 4-5 feet above LeSean McCoys head on 3rd and 1. Everyone on the Bills either cringed or held their head in disbelief. If he would have completed it, they would have had 1-2 more shots at the endzone but they settled for a FG. That was the worst one I saw.

    Tyrod is a good player but that was hard to watch.

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