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Stop trying to turn every thread into a Flacco bashfest troll. This is for legitimate OC discussion.

"@RapSheet: #Ravens have interviewed former #Redskins OC Kyle Shanahan for their vacant offensive coordinator position, per source."

Norv is not coming here, the Browns won't let him interview here.

Exactly. He's right there. Are you gonna flat out refuse to interview him? Would be rude to the max.

Less concerned by the prospect of Hostler than I was before. I think if we were gonna promote from within, we would've already announced it (Pagano and Pees were both promoted within a day). It's just a courtesy.

Half the guys on the team would be older than him lol.

Mike Preston is a credible source now? Just today he claimed that Flacco needed to be more like Manning and do a better job at drawing defenses offsides. He forgot to mention the part where the Ravens lead the league in neutral zone infractions committed by opponents. And that's just one example from TODAY. Boomshakalaka

I don't think it'll be bad if we get another trustworthy guy. He didn't have to lock onto Pitta last year because he also had Boldin.

Agreed. Flacco was locking onto Pitta at the end of the year.

Yep, it's Harbaugh who didn't like him.

For the Norv fans, looks like he may be on the way out... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/01/report-norv-speaks-up-during-meeting-with-haslam/

I agree with all of this but iirc Hue Jackson and John Harbaugh don't have a great relationship.

You would think, but some people definitely take joy in the failures.I think Caldwell is in over his head as an OC. That's just what I think.

I agree and I even mentioned it in a previous post. I hope Caldwell stays as a QB coach at least because there has been noticeable improvement in Flacco's picket awareness since he came to town.I think Caldwell was dealt a bad hand (the worst offensive assistant is NO DOUBT Castillo), but he seems to be in over his head as an OC. But I definitely don't think he should take all the blame, nor do I think he should be canned completely.

He's a great offensive mind imo, but apparently a huge [fill in the blank]. Can't see us going for that.

What has Caldwell done to show that he should keep the job? He doesn't even have his own playbook. Harp on Joe all you want but last I checked we're the first offense to finish with below 3.0 ypc on the season since 1994. That's a total offensive failure. By every measure this is the worst offense we've had in a very long time. Flacco, Rice, whatever, players need to make plays. But if you're telling me thag EVERYONE on offense just happened to regress majorly at the same time...I have a bridge to sell you.I feel like some of you are actually afraid that we'll be successful with a change. Why else would there be such animosity at the mere suggestion?

And for the record I hope Caldwell sticks around as a QB coach. The improvement in Flacco's pocket awareness has been incredible.

It also depends too heavily on great protection. We saw how successful it could be last year when the protection holds up...bit when it doesn't? Ugly.

There isn't, after all teams play defense too, but at the very least you can help your receivers out.I was watching our game with an Eagles fan yesterday and he commented that the Ravens use ZERO spacing in their offense and that the receivers always seem to be placed close to each other. Is it any wonder that it's easy for defenses to key in on them? We've been saying this on this board for a long time, but this was an EAGLES fan who pointed this out. Ironically, during Eagles/Cowboys last night, the announcers mentioned how important spacing is to Chip Kelly and how it makes things harder for opposing defenses. Players, both receivers and QB, have to make plays. But the system can either help or hurt. My biggest issue with the Ravens is that we don't even really have a system. What's our offensive identity outside of chucking the ball deep? Why are we sticking with Cam's playbook even though he isn't here anymore? We need someone with a vision who can help us establish an actual offensive identity.

I like Norv too, and with Chud's firing he might actually become available. I'm a bit tired of the vertical offense though...but if we want to stick with it there's nobody better.

Once upon a time Ray Rice was comparable. Call me an optimist but I think he still has it in him.

The Bears are playing golf because they can't stop running water on defense. Their offense is just fine.All of these things were complaints in Chicago, and look at their offense now. Granted, we don't have Marshall/Jeffrey but that's what the draft is for (hello Mike Evans/Marquise Lee).

We haven't changed our offensive system since Joe's been here so...These are all the complaints people had about Cutler in Chicago...then in comes Trestman and what do yoy know, their offense because WAY more efficient and creative. Alshon Jeffrey, who did little his rookie season, suddenly becomes a superstar. It's not a coincidence.

We need him back, he's a weapon.

Tomlin wouldn't have let that happen.