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Not failed draft in the long term. I just don't see current draft helping us get much better results. Because as much as our D has improved, our O has gotten worse. I see us averaging maybe 12-14p per game at the moment, tops.

How you feel now? I myself am sickened when I look at our offensive depth chart. Defense is elite though, but elite defenses will not win games in this time and age unless your offense can put up at least some points. Our offense struggled with putting points up already last year and have gotten only worse ever since. Q and Mangold are veteran depth at this point, they won't be the solution.

You might be right about 2018, but 2017 will be 8-8 year again if we're lucky and we'll probably have another HC by 2018. Defense will be elite, but our offense will be a non-factor. Too large holes are left to be filled with too little impact possibility from veteran pickups and late rounds. Biggest issue last year for the O was the inability to generate plays. And we've only lost quality players since then. Our defense might be elite and even keep opposing offenses below 10 points per game, but that will probably be enough to win cause we just won't be able to move the ball on offense.

Yeah, cause obsession always leads to good things.

“Very, very strong defense” will not win us games, if we have very very weak offense, because shutting out opponents like we did in 2000 is virtually impossible in this time and age. However, you can be shut out if your offense can't protect the QB or doesn't have anyone to throw the ball to. And that's the situation we're in. We might have the best defense, but our defense will be on the field for 80% of the time because our offense is a bust. The most vital draft ever has turned out to be one of the most lopsided ones ever. In a year where we needed good balance more than ever, you can count it as a failed draft. At this point, I see us starting strong on the backs of the defense only to lose out in the second half because the defense just can't carry the team the entire season. Another disappointing season and the end of Harbaugh era is the most likely scenario at this point.

Pick is solid, but I'm getting VERY VERY concerned about our offense. The talk of the town has been how we need to protect our NFL highest paid QB, how we need to improve our O line and how we need to get bigger and stronger in the trenches. So far the state of our O-line has gotten worse than it was last year. EVEN IF we do manage to build up the line in the draft and by picking up some FAs and Flacco is kept upright in the pocket, he has almost no WRs to throw the ball to. Do not be mistaken, Perriman is not a proven starter until he is. And Wallace is 2nd WR at best. The rest of the group are just place holder at the moment. Even last year, when Flacco did get time to throw at times, more often than not he didn't have anyone open which resulted in dink-and-dunk plays and 3 and outs. And the situation has gotten worse with the departure of SSS. I honestly don't know what the plan is here so I won't judge, but it'll require a 2nd and 3rd day of draft for the ages to give this offense a better shot than it did last year.

I was baffled by this pick as well and angry at the FO, until I started considering the WR groups we're going to face in our division twice a year: Steelers, with Brown and now Bryant back, might have the best starting WRs if Bryant returns to form. Bengals have Green who we've never been able to stop properly, and now add to that the fastest WR to ever play the game. Browns don't have any big names, but rumors of the freak-of-nature Josh Gordon returning do not spike confidence. So if you consider even just our own division rivals and their firepower, this pick makes just a little bit more sense and passing up on maybe better players is not so very frustrating anymore.

100%

LOL, maybe Mayock didn't expect anyone to take him in the 1st, didn't prepare an analysis.

Sonyour saying don't take best available player? I think it's plenty evident by now that we DO NOT take the best overall player available. We might take the best player available FOR US, considering our needs etc., but saying "We always take the best available player" is just misleading. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, just don't me mistaken, we DO draft out of need, also.

Wow Cam Robinson still on the board after day 1. Would L O V E to get him in 2nd, no way he's gonna fall for us though. And don't think trade will be happening either.

Agreed.

What?? The Steelers have arguably the easiest schedule in the league. Also, they finish the season against the Texans and Browns, which is advantageous in any sort of tight divisional scenario. I don't understand how the Steelers keep getting easy schedules despite winning the division.

Apparently the hype about signing a vet wasn't about Mangold after all. Reportedly we're bringing back Webb. Still think we should've gone for Mangold.

Mangold seems like only real candidate and it would be a sweet signing. I cannot emphasis enough how much versatility it would give us for the draft. I mean, our only imminent remaining needs would be WR and pass rusher. As for pass rush we actually have some (though largely unproven) youngsters at OLB who could fill in if necessary. So our only true need would be a starter at WR. If only we would have signed one of the vets at the beginning of FA. Then we could really pick best player available for the first time in a really long while. As for RT I believe plan A is to move Lewis to RT and have Jensen (or Urschel) line up at LG. Whatever it'll be, I'm really hyped about how our roster is starting to look. Solid depth here and there and for the key players to remain healthy and we should be golden.