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I disagree with you in some regards and agree with you in certain areas. I would say that Joe Flacco has been and still is being treated like a baby for a majority of his career and its finally starting to show. Hear me out on this... Do you honestly believe Flacco makes the playoffs majority of those seasons without Ray Rice, Ray Lewis, Ed, Reed etc... The only offense we really had was Ray Rice in the ground game. Your statement about Flacco not being able to connect with other receivers makes him seem worse. Who fault is it that Flacco can't connect with other receivers that he is at practice with him everyday. The backups in my mind honestly have better accuracy than Flacco mainly Mallett and Clausen throwing the ball down field. They are just younger and don't have his experience on the field. Schaub like Flacco in my mind was spoiled with having Arian Foster on play action passes. That's why he can't throw without it. Kamar Aiken started playing better when Steve Smith got hurt. Kamar on one hand could've started playing better believing he had to step up, but on the other hand is it possible he just wasn't being targeted very much by Joe Flacco. I believe Flacco locks on to one receiver for majority of the season outside of a burner he occasionally throws down field too when defenses try to shut down his primary. I say draft Laquon Tradwell (that is the guy for Flacco to succeed moving forward look at his highlights) and stop getting veteran receivers after Smith period. Flacco has to learn to play with young talent and not develop tunnel vision everytime Baltimore brings a veteran receiver. He is not developing because he is not being taken out of his comfort zone he has been since day one with Derrick Mason. If he can't he will never be elite, but a mediocre QB. I feel like not only you, but many other fans are riding Flacco's success over the years but forget key factors. 1. You probably wouldn't be saying these things if those players were still on the team. The records he broke is the equivalent of Maxx Williams with the tightened record. Not impressive considering your breaking records for a franchise that is 19 years old. Max is a little bit more impressive considering the TE we have had in the past if he continues but Flacco look at the QB's that came before him. Some of you make it seem like Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, Brett Favre, etc was our QB before him. The others QB's total had 11 compared to Flacco who has had 8 years. Flacco should have broke nearly every record if you look at it realistically. If Flacco doesn't improve next year. I say give Mallett a shot because he has proven he doesn't need veterans (Steelers game). I have nothing against Flacco, but I believe in having the best player on the field. He may not be it.

If we get a pass rusher at no. 6 I will be so mad. If you draft a pass rusher he is not going to start over Suggs or Dumervil. That would be crazy! If defense get a CB but preferably Laquon Treadwell. He is the no.1 receiver we needed for years!!! Cowboys stole Dez from us lets get it right this draft. Permian is Torrey Smith's replacement and nothing more in my eyes. He is a burner not the guy for crucial 3rd down situations. Get Treadwell to complete your offense in case Steve Smith gets hurt. I would not bank on Permian carrying the offense. Our current defense improved greatly later in the season. Besides we have had more success drafting defensive playmakers than offensive playmakers, so get the sure thing now at WR. I have full faith Newsome could draft a CB or OLB later in the draft. The debate drafting this year for the Ravens is... Flacco has no WR to throw to versus your defense not making int's. Clearly the need is bigger on offense. As for the other WR's playing well towards the end that was with Mallett and not Flacco. Flacco needs a big body guy! At the very least this eliminates the Ravens going into free agency getting veteran receivers all the time. We should have home grown talent on offense as well as on defense.

I put Camp getting hurt as a prime example of why Flacco made need to be assessed as a QB. Campanaro is a great WR when healthy, but he is a smaller guy. Joe Flacco throws touch throws leaves him all other WR's susceptible to big hits. The reason Camp gets an article is because he makes plays. This is why I've been saying the Ravens should be scouting for toughness more than anything with Flacco as QB. You can't do much but brace for hits with touch throws. All WR's need to be durable and tough but get the ball there so WR's can better protect themselves. FO sees that clearly in likenesses in Boldin transition to Smith! Thats why I say Joe Flacco needs Laquon Treadwell. They need to get him because he has the toughness of Anquain or Steve Smith! You missed out on Dez Bryant because the Cowboys traded up to take him from us. Don't make the mistake with No.6 pick. Defense is nice, but you have to get somebody in case T-Sizzle gets hurt again, but you do have a pass rusher (He is not going to start even if you do draft him in 1st round). We do need an LT depending on K.O. CB is an extreme need, but the WR you are looking for has presented himself get him.

I'm not mad with the current picks at all. I don't know why people disrespecting Ed Reed. WHY??? Let's state obvious reasons. If Ray Lewis said he wanted to be a linebackers coach and Harbaugh didn't pick him up. You guys would be upset for the same reasons Baltimore didn't get Reed. I would love to here why you shouldn't hire Ed ReedHis accolades, future hall of famer, leadership, and strong familiarity with the team and coaching staff. The last one goes a long way considering the players would want to play for Ed Reed the same way they would want to play for Lewis. Bellichick praises Ed Reed for his film study so I have full faith the DB's would be ready to go gameday. Webb looked up to Ed Reed when he first got to the team and didn't improve until he started watching film with him. Webb moving to safety where Ed used to play and would have been a great mentor. Most of you fans want the franchise to draft or acquire the next Ed Reed. You would be crazy not to consider Ed Reed. Once again I like the new coaches acquired, but don't disrespect one of the best safeties to play the game ever.

I totally agree with you! All of Joe Flacco's backup especially Mallett hit and targeted multiple receivers and had better completion yards to receivers. I say this all the time, but if your QB hasn't had one young receiver remain on the team in eight years. Really whose fault is that! Joe lacks accuracy and some fans would rather blame wide receivers than their QB! Joe Flacco can't keep the one's he does play well with because they are old and on their way to retirement. We are the graveyard for high quality cheap veterans. Thats not the front office fault for giving up players that are already about to retire. Torrey Smith isn't here because he is a bad receiver. He isn't here because Joe Flacco could not get him the ball. The Ravens had to evaluate him based on his gameplay which looked questionable due to his number of times targeted and lack of completions. The front office probably came to the conclusion that Joe Flacco can't hit a speedy receiver deep down field and said anyone will do. The Rvens led the league in defensive pass interference yards due to that fact! Why give Torrey a big pay day when you can get a fast first round for Joe to under throw passes to and do the same thing. People open your eyes he had Ray Rice in the beginning. Nobody can tell me Joe Flacco got you guys to the playoffs his first three years in the league. Joe has not progressed since he came to Baltimore. He still can't read coverages like a rookie. He just had different pieces Baltimore never had before like a speedy receiver, so teams had to adapt and Joe capitalized with a Super Bowl. Teams know how to gameplan for the Ravens and we are losing now! Wake up Ravens fans a lot of you seem to be so stuck on past accomplishments and him being the best QB you had in a 19 year franchise (its not all that impressive Joe broke all these records) that you won't consider someone being better. That is ridiculous. Before people criticize tell me what has Joe done for you lately...

Hey guys we do have the no.6 pick in the draft on that Flacco deal. It is in an option moving forward. Honestly, I'm all up for option 2 or 3. Mallett, Tucker, and K.O. for Flacco sounds like a viable choice. If you are going to keep Flacco and renegotiate the contract get Anquain Boldin. Joe Flacco does not have a history of playing well with young receivers. I personally don't think its the receivers in a total of 8 years, but he plays better with older veteran receivers. Anquain and Permian (any speed receiver will do) on the outside with Steve Smith in the slot. Joe in my eyes needs to be replaced for obvious reasons, but if kept that would be the best option via drafting a big body catching receiver like Dez Bryant.

I hope that Flacco can learn from Mallett playing and see that his WR's can actually catch the ball. Get the ball there and stop these touch throws which you are clearly not capable of completing. Else all the WR additions won't help. I prefer Mallett personally if Flacco can't connect with receivers. I really would like to see Mallett get reps with the starting offense next year. Flake please take something away from the games you didn't play this season. You got all the mechanics I want to see you use it!

Matt Elam's career was Harbaugh's fault. Elam voiced he did not like playing SS when he got here. When he played FS he was exactly as advertised. I remember those reports. I feel as though however overall this is a conflict of interest. I think if given an opportunity at the position he was drafted for FS and not SS. He would be fine. His mistakes came when he played CB as well. Terrence Brooks I agree with the idea about his mistakes also think he would be a great FS. Ladarius Webb can also be great at the position if he learns how to adjust. Get rid of Kendrick Lewis no brainer should not have gotten a 5 year deal.

I gotta say if Ryan Mallet wins this game tomorrow their should be some starting QB conversation at the end of the season in Baltimore. Now before a lot of Ravens fans go into bashing me for my comment. Lets look at the facts. 1. "If" is a keyword here. I am interested more in his ability to play with current receivers... If Malett was the starter heading into next season I would say the Ravens need to draft a LT (depending on how K.O. deal works out) or a FS or CB. If its Flacco draft a Dez Bryant type wide receiver with a big body to go up catch those jump ball/touch passes. Malett does not need anymore wideouts because he is a gunslinger that can get the ball there. I'm checking to see can Malett duplicate his performance of last week and hit multiple receivers. 2.Bengals defense is a much tougher challenge and I'm interested to see Malett ability to read coverages. This is another problem Flacco has starting at QB. 3. Record says a lot and despite what some fans may say Malett will be up against the best the Bengals has to offer. Andy Dalton not being able to play can not be controlled. The Ravens have lost the last 4 out of 5 games to the Bengals. Him beating the Bengals and the Steelers says a lot for him as a QB only 19 days into the offense and Flacco has played every game.

Givens was going to play based on Baltimore's scheme of a speedy receiver so not surprised this article is a waste of time

I completely understand what you are saying and love that idea of a QB, but the Ravens are not going to draft a QB in the upcoming draft. Joe Flacco is the best QB in Baltimore Raven franchise history, he has never missed a game, and he won a Superbowl not too long ago. All that adds up to he is staying. I don't know anything about the WR in this years draft, but yeah we need to get one asap. Just because you have a really high pick doesn't mean don't get what you need when your on the clock. I remember when we were supposed to get Dez Bryant, but the Cowboys traded up and took him right before Baltimore was on the clock. If he was on Baltimore words can't describe how much better the offense would be. Consistency is important and I'm tired of the Ravens FO bringing in a veteran receiver for two to three years and not getting that type of receiver in the draft so he can be on the team his entire career. The only real needs we have personnel wise is at WR, OLB, DE, QB, LT, would love a better FS . Now of everything I just named when has the Ravens ever had a great WR core. All those other problems Ozzie Newsome fixed except wideout. It's been like that forever in Baltimore. As for everything else I addressed... You get a DE because Chris Canty is getting old (or move Brandon Wiliams like Haloti Ngata or Carl Davis to the position) , You need OLB pass rusher as insurance for Terrell Suggs (let Courtney Upshaw do the dirty work like always) QB Joe Flacco needs to be replaced but will not be. I honestly want a QB that targets the whole team and not one player for 60 minutes. One that can read defenses, throw the deep ball in stride to speedy receivers, throw the ball correctly depending on the situation (every pass doesn't have to be a touch pass, bullet passes do exist), and be a leader in the locker room so Ray Lewis doesn't have to be just to win a game. I totally agree with you on the QB pick. LT Eugene sucks in real life and on the game so he need to go. I get more sacks than I can count with this guy on my team. lol. FS I would love t see Matt Elam play his original position at FS and not SS. He voiced he didn't want to play that position and was forced to because of injuries at CB. He would have chemistry with Hill if nothing else. Slow FS make me cringe when deep balls are up in the air so I don't really care for Lewis. I don't disagree with what your saying, but most of those other needs we have as a team are their due to injury. WR is another case entirely, it has never been good. Arguably the most important issue on the team. The defensive secondary shutout Payton Manning so I can't say we have a bad secondary considering if the line doesn't get to the QB the receivers will eventually get open. The pass rush will return with Terrell Suggs and everything on defense will be great we just need insurance at OLB or DE.

The best evaluation your going to get of Perriman is training camp. For obvious reasons you can't judge him on his play this season assuming he does because the time frame is too short. He would have to play at least 6 games to be fair and judge his quality as a player. According to this article he hasn't been practicing so I wouldn't expect amazing gameplay from him early on. The Ravens in my opinion still need to use their first round draft pick on a wide receiver. A big body wide receiver that can go up and make contested throws in one on one coverage. Joe Flacco throws touch passes and when they are not on the money. He will need the type of receiver that can make the plays Anquain did. I think the Ravens need to buck the trend of getting a veteran receiver this season unless Steve Smith comes back. After him no more because Joe Flacco will never build chemistry with his receiving core the way things are currently being done. Joe Flacco and Marlon Brown have no chemistry because we went out and got a veteran wide receiver. You can't expect things to pick up where they left off after a year of a player on the bench. Marlon Brown's breakout year was last year which the Ravens organization didn't show any faith in his talent. I'm not saying I don't like Steve Smith but you do have Michael Campanaro. True he gets hurt but he does make plays. He should at least be the no. 4 receiver for next year current roster if not no. 3. I look at the Ravens passing offensive struggles coming from one or two things... Either the receiver aren't that good or its the mentality of the qb. I think its honestly the latter because Joe Flacco targets one player way more than the rest of the team. One player shouldn't be targeted more times than the rest of the receiving core combined for a game let alone multiple. If their that bad everyone should be gone.I'm interested to see Joe with two first round draft picks at WR. At that point no excuses either he performs are we draft another QB...

Okay lets get this straight what do you propose... He keep throwing the ball to Steve Smith every game. That has really been effective strategy so far. What I'm saying is no receiver is going to catch every pass. These guys are young and inexperienced. even though they have been in a league a few years how much playing time do they get... I could be on special teams doesn't mean because I catch punts and returns I'll make catches or interceptions. People do learn from theie mistakes its called growing pains. Oh yeah screw 2013, 2014 he had Torrey Smith and couldn't get him the ball. That's what I saw. That's why Torrey Smith had lower production and I don't blame him for asking for all that money. I'ld rather be paid than broke in the same qb situation Kapernick (even though he did on that one TD pass against us). Torrey Smith should have a had a breakout season last years given all the TD passes that came his way... I know football consistency is important all the way around. QB have to have consistent play so do the wide receivers. The QB must consistently trust the wide receivers and vice versa. I'm sure the receivers don't go back to the sideline and ask for Matt Schaub to start playing after Joe Flacco throws these interceptions... Solution: If I was the Raven staff I was just start trading for experienced receivers (don't waste draft picks on picking up one) because Joe Flacco only receiver to date that he played well with that came to the team was Dennis Pitta period. Get one fast receiver to stretch the field and everyone from other teams because he is incapable of raising the play of those around him like a true leader... Those seem to be the receivers Joe has had the most success with. Joe Flacco just needs big body receivers because all throws is contested throws thats why a lot of people praise Steve Smith so much same with Anquain Boldin when he was here. Plus you pick out what you want to strengthen your case in my post Rise N' Conquer. You know like I know he won't win throwing the ball to one person (Matthew Stafford tried that with the Lions and I haven't seen them in the post season in a long time). We tried that the first seasons Joe got hear and Indianapolis played Ray Rice the whole game and we lost Ray Rice left the field in tears because you can't win the game alone... Don't just breakdown my post and criticize what do you think the Ravens should do to get better...

Joe if your reading this I know a lot of the dumb Raven fans will disagree. The smart ones will actually get what I'm about to say... Joe this is not the beginning of your career. Ray Rice is no longer here to bail you out 4 & 29. You can't throw the ball to one receiver all game and that may have worked with Derrick Mason and Anquain Boldin, but people have keyed in on that over the years.. That is not working with Steve Smith. Throw the ball to other receivers. I can't say you have bad receivers when one receiver has been targeted more than everyone else all game. If Breshad Permian plays this year practice throwing the deep ball in stride. I don't want another Torrey Smith penalty yardage, no catch because ball are under thrown speedy wideout. That Chris Givens catch weeks ago is a prime example granted he was only here a week it is completely understandable. I'ld rather you throw up contested throws to receivers and they get picked off so I can at least say you had bad receivers. Right now this is a trust issue between you and the receiver because you threw the ball to Anquain Boldin when he was here and he wasn't wide open for all the fans who I know will give me negatives. Put it like this Joe Flacco if I play Madden 16 I can't throw all my passes to Megatron, Larry Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant and expect to win the game. If I do win my opponent was trash... Everybody is not Steve Smith but I have to throw the ball to other receivers. I certainly don't target one receiver more than the rest combined. Just a thought, good luck with the rest of the season...

1. This game could have been a lot worst if it was another team... From the report I just read sounds like Joe did exactly what I thought he would. I knew Kamar Aiken was going to have majority of his passes. Joe Flacco can't operate without a certain setup period... 2 Defense needed to change up and didn't. I gotta say Josh McCown is a pretty good quarterback. He is not the most accurate but sees the holes in coverages... 3. Penalties took away turnovers so yeah... That wraps up the game. 4. I don't see Baltimore season changing if Steve Smith comes back because the qb situation I stated in statement 1. If Joe Flacco can't utilize players and not certain players (Marlon Brown one catch for zero yards) Baltimore will continue to lose when they need the offense to put the game away... 5. Either that or blame the season on injuries I don't care anymore... One thing I know is evident that I will sure every Raven fan will agree. The Cleveland Browns don't have the world's best receivers. Josh McCown threw passes to multiple receivers because he can read coverages and I'm sure none went for zero yards. Blame your QB not just your RECEIVERS!!! The article said it they put eight in the box to show what they thought of the qb not the receivers. Hey everybody "Get Rich Or Die Trying" quote... I could be wrong but I'm right!!!

I understand what you are saying about drops but look where Flacco places the football. Let me prove a point to you how many sideline passes that are accurate have you seen Joe throw in his career that didn't force the wideout to come back and fight for the ball. It look like Flacco was throwing to the defensive back and wideouts are playing defense. I've seen Marlon Brown jump to make high catches and come down with it. I am not saying these are the best wide receivers in the NFL, but some blame does go to the quarterback and ball placement.

Not true elite quarterbacks (Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Brees) are capable of throwing receivers open. Also, I didn't say he needed perfect throws. I said he needed to throw the ball where the advantage is given to the wide receiver and not the defensive back. Your not acknowledging the mistakes or bad passes Flacco makes at quarterback. He is not stepping into the pocket to deliver passes and you sure you see that in games when being blitzed. He has to throw the ball and take the hit. It can't feel good going to the ground, but how far is he willing to go to help the team win...

Okay that sounds like an excuse to me. He under threw Torrey Smith on too many touchdown to count hence all the penalty yardage. Marlon Brown and Kamar Aiken both had great years with the Ravens so your whole theory of them not getting open... I can't say I support. Plus I'm sure he threw contested catches to both of them when they did play at a high level not just when they were just wide open or got separation. He threw to Anquain Boldin and he had little to no separation on most plays. It all comes down to how much a quarterback trust his receivers and honestly Flacco has little to none! Joe Flacco was playing real life football like people played Madden. I'll throw the ball up and hope for a spectacular catch from Anquain Boldin. Believe or not that does not work for every receiver. How about a new idea lets throw the receiver open??? SO far Joe Flacco proves he can only throw to one type of receiver and the sad part is that doesn't take much talent... You can't tell me you don't see that trend with Flacco of targeting one receiver (Derrick Mason, Anquain Boldin, Steve Smith and tightens unless he has fast receiver. The only time he ever does otherwise is in the playoffs. He regresses every regular season back to the same quarterback.The Ravens organization honestly did not do him any favors by bringing him Steve Smith (same old crutch) because he is not progressing as a quarterback. He needs to take the next step and learn how to utilize all his receivers (likes when he plays really good defenses) because I find it hard to believe that guys are not getting open for 60 minutes of football.

I would say this for the receiver core that Flacco has this year. I can't completely blame them as much as I blame Flacco. He needs to get the ball there and given the receiver core for this game that is extremely tall 6'2" 6'5" 6'6" (not sure about Givens height). Hit receivers in stride, bullet passes (these contested toss up throws are not helping receivers weekly), high passes where only the receiver can make a play on the ball should have been the focus of this week in practice. Possibly to the chest of smaller receivers... Flacco has to do his part this season by stepping into throws to complete passes (the entire game not the last drive). Getting hit is apart of the game even as a quarterback. You want to help your offensive line with all these blitzes, step into throw take the hit and get the completion. Teams will respect Joe more as a quarterback if they see he is not easily rattled, or afraid throwing off his back foot which he can't do... My biggest knock is please don't throw to one receiver all game. For example it was the Steve Smith show then the Kamar Aiken show and then to say your "receiver core is not ideal." I put a lot of blame on Flacco going to the well too many times and not getting the ball to receivers more than them not being great players. Its not like our receivers are missing wide open passes when given opportunity, but they will miss bad passes which I don't fault them for... Joe if you are really about WINNING stop being a COWARD!

I'm kind of happy about this situation Joe Flacco is in right now. True wide receivers needs to gain more seperation, but Joe needs to throw the ball better period. This has been evident since last year with Torrey Smith. Torrey didn't have the catches, but the penalty yardage racked up from Joe Flacco under throwing him and having to go back and fight for the ball every game was ridiculous. It would be nice to see Joe Flacco throw passes to receivers in stride. Unless I play with him on Madden 16 he seems incapable of doing that... Yeah I took it there! Screw these touch passes bullet the pass to receivers get the ball there instead of having each throw always be contested. I had a huge problem with the Darren Waller pass last game. Darren Waller had to fight his way to the inside to catch the pass. Joe needs to throw the ball high to play to the strengths of his receivers Joe's passing game needs work and he can't spend all his time throwing to one receiver. He went from Steve Smith to Kamar Aiken. I want to see the best tightend in the draft can do with various other weapons.

I disagree with a lot of the plans complaining. If you say John Harbaugh is not a good coach. Go cheer for another team because you are not a Baltimore Ravens fan. The same person saying John Harbaugh isn't a great coach is ridiculous if your going to say talking to and coaching the players is not important... You stop watching sports because I'm sure you weren't saying that when we won the Super Bowl. Plus we have been o the playoff the last seven of eight years with the majority of these coaches.Don't blame Dean Pees because injuries happen and we typically use certain players in certain formations on defense. The Ravens problems are obvious. !.) Offensively we don't have a speedy receiver to stretch the field. This set Joe Flacco in a "Land Before Time I Mean Torrey Smith" The Ravens lost to the Steelers three games in a row and Harbaugh went out in the draft next season and got a fast receiver. 2.) You can't call that a bad defense because honestly its a like the Ravens old defense and what I mean by that is a lot of fans got used to Baltimore getting off a fast start sometimes. This used to happen where the defense would eventually get tired or give up a big play against a talented team. All the teams we played are arguably stronger offensive teams than defensive. It's not showing because the offense is not putting up points at the beginning of games. When you think about the teams we played you don't think about their defense first as their strong point. I think once Breshad Perriman plays two games then everybody will see the team they envisioned us being. Permian not playing is killing the team. Harbaugh or Ozzie needs to get a speedy receiver asap to help Flacco. These games are a lot harder to win when teams know you can't stretch the field which is also hurting the run game as well... Something to think about I'm not hitting the panic button just yet.

I hope everything works out but looking at Baltimore's offensive identity in the past... Baltimore is known for Juggernaut play across the offensive line and running the football. That's what helped Kubiak last year (which separates the Ravens from the Texans in regards to philosophy on OL) and Trestman this year. I really hope there is not a lot of passing to the running back this year for two reasons. First, Justin Forsett is great but he does not break tackles the way Ray Rice did, so for all the fans expecting 4th and 29 type plays out of Forsett. Those RB passes will take away from the offensive line blocking for Forsett and the other backs for rushing yards. Which I could possibly see a lot of Ravens fans blaming either Joe Flacco or Trestman that the Ravens pass the ball too much and don't run to put an end to games. Second, if these passes are RB screens which are typically ran to the outside. The Ravens will have to run inside as well because all teams have to do is focus on outside runs due to the zone run scheme. The screen and zone run would not compliment each other very long if teams can figure that out. Joe Flacco may break 4,000 yards due to Trestman's system, but I would rather he play smart football and continue to win games than have stats. To say Trestman was let go from all these teams (specifically SF with Steve Young) in the past worries me. The teams that seemed great while he was there saw success for the first year then began to decline. The other teams seemed to see no success whatsoever which led to him getting fired so many times. I didn't read anything in the previous article about him turning a team around and the team staying that way. Just a concern, but I would love to hear from the rest of you guys.

He sounds like Ray Lewis with the "legacy" leave your mark speech from Madden

I'm saying you had Kobe, Shaq, Fisher, Horry etc... Their bench was pretty good as well. They were able to rest their starters and send in their subs much like what the Ravens do using certain players in specific packages (especially on defense). The Spurs operated with a really old players on their team to be honest much like the Steelers in my opinion. I get what your saying about the Spurs front office though.

Yeah thats what the Steelers did with him and John Harbaugh said he wanted him