Tiznut

16 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Because it's a forum. Are you always just a ball of sunshine? 

Yes are you always willing to rehash 4 yr old nonsense and act like its current?

curious if you knew how much kubiak worked with flacco so that the shock that he audibles should have ended years ago. 

36 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

Nothing totally shocking but I was going to this one because of the uniforms no matter what . I really dig the gold numbers, assuming they're that shiny. I knew we were going all purple because we've already done all black. Would be interested to see the whole uniform setup though. 

Guess as long as it's not all gold.  

3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. I don't even have to move my butt to do research.

2. Ironic, given how you make claims about what people spend their money on and have absolutely no support for those claims.

Keep throwing it against the wall. Maybe soon it will stick.

Where did I make a claim about how he spends his money?

the last line applies to you. You're ignorant as to what I know if the situation so like a child you're just talking and talking in hopes of that by talking more you'll look educated on the topic. That's all this is which is why you've replied to EVERY post. 

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

FUTURE donations. Key distinction you left out to continue to move the cross bars so the kick will go through.

No mention whatsoever of past or current donations.

Didn't leave anything out.  It's amazing that you finally got off your butt and researched it for once instead of claiming you did before. 

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. Yes, yes he is. Any way you look at it, ANY charitable donations he makes are coming from other people's money, because his employment status and his earnings are 100% based on consumer spending. Every cent of his salary that he donates to charity was funded by consumer spending. That's the circle of the economy.

2. Nope, I don't. My entire premise is that I don't, nor do you or anybody else. So when people claim that he does OR doesn't (as others have done), its simply a claim of ignorance, because they don't have that information.

They can GUESS he doesn't, but that's all it is... a guess.

This (your #1) is where I agree with your tone. Regardless of how he made the money, legally of course, it's still his so it's a good gesture he's donating it. 

2 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I guess the real question is - how does him kneeling for the anthem instill change in the police who he says brutalize his people? What pressure does it put on them to change?

 

Francis Scott Key was actually on a ship negotiating the release of my great, great, great ,great, great ( i dont know how many) grandfather when he wrote the Star Spangled Banner. I hold it in a very personal light. I'm very proud of it - to have my blood tied to something that so many people take pride in.

But Kaep kneeling doesnt even offend me in any way or make me care about what he thinks.

And i guess thats my only point. There are much more effective things he could do. I feel like this is a pretty easy one... makes him look good, takes minimal effort, gets maximum exposure, and doesnt require him to follow up in any way - it puts the onus on everyone else to follow through.

It doesn't and that's where the issue came up and when he decided to do a bit more. It's also why, again to me, it's laughable that others then joined in just to support the treatment kaep was getting and not to promote change or help any actual causes (specificly referring to that female soccer player)

1 minute ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Cool. So you're agreeing that you don't actually know what charities Kap donates to and you're just making assumptions to fit whatever narrative you have?

Thanks, thats all I wanted to hear.

Nope. I agree that you're a self important guy who lied about research because kaep was open and honest about his donations. So claiming you've done research shows you're willing to lie to make your argument. 

Just now, RaineV1 said:

The bad cops won't care, but the protest is also against the people that employ and defend the bad cops. It'd be nice if they got a bit of the spotlight rather than the media just focusing on the messenger calling them out. Also, Kaep worked with a former NFL player and green beret to choose kneeling over sitting to make it a sign of protest rather than just disrespect.

It's funny to me that you bring this up. Quite often news reports show cops arrested cops and the general public acts like it's an anomaly to fit the narrative they want to project.  

8 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

In reference to Kaep, he made a public statement that his protest had NOTHING to do with our military and he respects them for what they do.  

True and this is where I call kneeling ineffective. You do it to protest bad cops who simply don't care if you are saluting or not.  As shaq said he will always salute because he's honoring those that sacrificed for him including his step father 

44 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

These are the most uninspired uni's of the entire color rush series. They look like garbage and those gold numbers look ugly. I can't believe the BENGALS and Rams have better color rush uniforms than we do.

Not a fan of any of the color rush uni's thus far. 

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

You're going to need to cite a source to make that claim.

I've done this research also... I don't see anything, because as I said, Kaepernick's private financial information isn't exactly known to the public. You'd likely need things like tax records (or an admission of this from himself) in order to verify this.

Hence my "unreported" argument. There's what the public sees and thinks and are told, and then there's reality. The two often can be very, very different from each other.

No I don't. Who died and made you king. To say I need to cite sources. This is again about you not knowing anything . Just because you don't know what was said or done the previous weeks ago doesn't mean everyone is ignorant to the situation.  Not sure how or why it's hard for you to understand you not knowing something doesn't mean the rest of us don't.  The fact that you also glossed over the fact that other players have said they are simply kneeling because kaep took hits in the media also lets me know that you're just here to defend the action and not listen to what others have said. 

4 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

You missed the point. The bolded part is the key... when he TOLD YOU he was going to do it.

That's when YOU were notified of his intentions, not when he actually did it or if he had actually did it.

Players donate time and money to charities on a weekly basis, and the public rarely has any knowledge of this. Why? Because they don't publicly announce it.

I do also find it odd that we have now started to criticize him FOR donating to charity, and we would also criticize him for NOT donating to charity.

All circles back to the public's preference... "shut up and stay in your lane". 

No I got your point and with this specific person you are wrong. I know most charitable donations and work goes unreported but this specific person wasn't donating or doing anything for the cause he claimed UNTIL he was called out.  

Again stop projecting your ignorance on the event onto others. 

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Well we don't really know that for sure. Its not like all of these players publicly disclose to everybody when they are going to make charitable donations. He could have been doing this all along or not at all... we have no idea.

Um.  If you have followed the kaep issue you actually do know when he started to discuss what he will now do.

so because YOU haven't followed it or heard about it don't project that onto others. 

1 hour ago, arnie_uk said:

All these symbols of protest etc mean nothing. Do something about it instead on taking a knee or raising your fist during the national anthem.

It doesn't help anyone. Doesn't matter what the issue is, I feel alot of these are just stupid.

My issue. Kaep was simply kneeling until he was called out then all of a sudden the checkbook was open. A lot of these others are "protesting" because kaep got a bad rap. 

Shaq to me said it best. I honor the flag because I'm honoring family and friends who served and I'm not going to disrespect them because a bad Apple needs to be dealt with. 

13 minutes ago, jboy19 said:

I think raising fists is the thing now. 

Seeing it too often too. I'm thinking some of them are kneeling/raising fist because it's the thing to do not because they have a point to make.  

Like that one soccer player who did it to support kaepernick.   It's gotten dumb and outta hand.  

4 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

Our game with the P*triots is on MNF, so that's hardly a slight.  We also got the Christmas Day game.

Also a thnf as previously posted.  Baltimore won 5 games last yr so of course prime time games are affected that's the reality of the situation.  Not sure how any reasonable person can view the schedule coming off a 5 win season as a slight to the team for lacking prime time games.   

26 minutes ago, jimmypowder said:

Just goes to show you that considering our only td was an audible , Trestmans play calling was garbage . 

Yeah so tell me about every other play ran and which ones were audibles then. 

Yes it was an audible.  He's done it a few times over the years. Yes the discussion previously was that he wasn't able to audible under Cameron. So why is it still discussed that he's audibiling?  

11 minutes ago, Moderator 3 said:

Winning our opener is a good thing.  Last time that happened was 2012 and we all know how that worked out.

Well let's keep this going 

Good: Suggs getting a sack 

6 hours ago, AppStRavenfan said:

I have a feeling Hester is going to break one for a TD. I find it sort of interesting that when people talk about all the speed we've got at receiver they forget to mention Hester - dude can still fly, sure I doubt he'll get much of any snaps at WR this week since we just signed him but after this game. Get him the ball in space and watch his magic, he was so electric in 2014 if the Falcons had competent blockers on ST then he would have gotten one or two more TDs. We got lucky to get him on the cheap.

Well hopefully the bills only have one kick off attempt too 

Not sure yet. Either Jam or Ray Lewis. 

13 minutes ago, jkm5bmore said:

Though very skilled and promising (I like the guy) but, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/10-greatest-nfl-tight-ends-of-all­-time.html/?a=viewall

10 of the 'Greatest' TE's ever include 2 who have played for the Ravens (Sharpe and Coates), 1 who played for Baltimore Colts (Mackey) and the 'Oz'. Longevity is key. Just saying. Gronk's injuries have really made that climb to the top a little steeper (no matter whose throwing the ball to him).

 

Good point with the longevity thing. 

its the reason the rushing record looks out of reach and why no matter what was thought about with Calvin Johnson there were wr records he's just not going reach. 

15 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Gronk + any above average QB > Brady + pitta. Gronkowski has the very legitement chance to become the greatest TE in NFL history. He's already up there in terms of dominance. Brady doesn't make him. Gronk is just unstoppable. Even if Tony Romo had Gronk, he'd still be the most dominant offensive player in the NFL. 

Even if tony romo?

you do realize that statistically romo has surpassed flacco right? 

22 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

I think Cunningham wore #1 didn't he.

You are correct. 

I thought Michael Jackson did but that was only with the Browns early on