Tiznut

True the clip didn't show smooth hands but we knew last yr he wasn't the smoothest catcher. He's a taller and faster Torrey smith. In time I hope you gets smoother with the catches but as long as he makes the big plays and helps the offense win I'm not complaining

A mistake is a mistake regardless of how many others emulate it. But again that wasn't my point in saying the only udfa that we let go that ended up suceeding is Harrison.

No we are talking about how often the Ravens give udfas a chance and I never said it was a mistake to let him go. If I were to dive into it try and refer to it as a mistake I'd discuss the guys kept over him and their failures...

The Ravens consistently give udfa chances. if they can play they'll get to play. Think the only udfa we didn't find room for that turned out good was James Harrison

For one they are both relatively inexpensive. Second we haven't made any cuts so they, like everyone else on the 90 man gets a chance to compete. Three if it was about pride Elam wouldn't have been buried on the depth chart prior to injury last yr. 4th it's only may both can show themselves to be serviceable in our system or get cut before August. Show. Some. Patience.

You're a newer Ravens ran huh? 1st by definition a free agent can go where he wants which is why ocho wanted to play with Brady and TO wanted to play in Philly. 2nd and most important when talking about Baltimore wanting TO. They clearly did by trading for him only to have TO get the deal nixed which takes us back to the 1st point.

Just use orange or brown as anything written in clevelands colors isn't meant to be taken seriously

I'd take hartwell over Scott both on the field and cause he married Rudy huxtable

Fair enough especially considering cost of living and taxes it's safe to believe that tickets in CA will have a higher face value. As as for the OP. He used the Browns as an example of a team throwing games for a higher draft pick while ignoring the last time they had the top pick was over a decade ago. Then decided to use the lions for an example of a team who isn't paying its players despite being shown three players who were amongst highest paid at their positions. Now is is trying to use ticket prices to say it's proof they don't wanna win this after he even said they were too high given detroits citizens economic standing. As I said before he's just flinging poo at the walls. what's amusing to me is using ticket prices to gauge a teams attempt at on field success. This while ignoring where kc is ranked who also has one of the most rabid fan bases and not even touching jax who has the cheapest tickets but has been aggressive in player acquisitions. None of his arguments have been based in reality nor has he even attempted to back anything up with consistent data. By definition it's Trolling

http://www.statista.com/statistics/193595/average-ticket-price-in-the-nfl-by-team/ and to back up usmc post. Lions within $3 of the steelers and cards and higher than cincy and kc

He's just flinging poo at the walls hoping something sticks

Before I forget. Look at the salaries of Stafford, Calvin and suh. The situation they were in wasn't from a lack of spending

He pointed out that the team is paying the players as evident by where the salary cap is. Your rebuttal actually shows they are to be commended for paying players due to no income from home team fans. So again what does you claiming ticket prices aren't getting fans in seats have to do with him stating the team is inline with others in regards to salary cap.

What does that have to do with what he said.

True. Iirc early 90s Cowboys didn't have pro bowl defenders but still accomplished team goals

This. I mean Mosley was a pro bowler his rookie yr and Williams is regarded as one of the best NT but in order to be elite. Well to me anyway, they'd need to maintain high level of production for a long time. By my view very few players in the league are elite. Not a bad thing I'm just not as liberal with using the elite term.

I don't like the idea that owners are choosing not to improve due to large profits. The reality is that they all know the better the team performs on a consistent basis the higher the profit margin. They all know that performing like the patriots gives them the most return on their investments. Despite how people view Jerry jones he understands that very well.

lol. So your whole debate is to ignore reality. Yes, yes we should completely change the rules because you think a team that hasn't had the first pick since 2000 has been throwing games to gain the top pick. I don't know what's worse. Your inability to see that the top pick alone doesn't change a loser around or your insistence on using the Browns in hopes that people would make an illogical yet purely emotional agreement with your nonsense. The he top of the draft has been relatively unpredictable in terms of having both the 1 and 2 picks in a draft both be perennial pro bowlers that it's foolish for a coach or gm to risk their jobs for a pick that doesn't always pan out. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno1 the guys that you think teams have thrown games for.

So your justification for a lottery is the team who was picking second traded out of the spot? the idea of a lottery in the Nba is to avoid 30+ games of a team tanking and getting the top pick in a league where one pick sways the balance of a team tremendously. It's 25% of your starting line up. Nfl is different in that your first round pick, despite getting credit, is never getting it done alone. One reason why the Titans ultimately had a top 2 pick two years straight but it yeah look at the Browns and how vastly different they're front office and coaches are. That's exactly why nfl teams aren't throwing games.

Winning 2 since 1996 is quite an accomplishment but the damn pats make it easy to down play it.

there is no fact in his opinion

Yeah cause I'm clearly talking about just one season and not the entire harbaugh tenure

Don't think we will drop off. Do think the afcn will be way more competitive from top to bottom.

Who said he didn't know what he's talking about. Just pointing out your desire to embellish what was said. He disagrees with ONE pick. That doesn't mean predicting a losing season. The only thing he can really do is say Ozzie isn't always right with his choices and cite our desire to sign him as proof that Ozzie makes mistakes

No and the discussion of teams throwing it in for the top pick are ridiculous. Typically if a team is that bad where they are getting the top pick there's a lot of turnover on the staff and amongst the players. So why would people sacrifice their careers so someone else benefits from it? The second reason I say the thought of coughing up games for a high pick is silly is because the second, third, fourth, etc round also play a major factor in building a championship team. Right now our best OL is a former 3rd round pick. Those types of picks are how contenders are made