balfan23

You feel deflated because we selected a guy that no one mocked to us and whose average draft projection was in the 20s or later. You'd feel better if we got a guy that was projected higher than our selection, because it would feel like we got a steal. Of course, none of that matters. All that matters is what Humphreys does for us on the field compared to some of the guys we passed on.

Well, in my comment earlier - I said I'm happy to hear any QB or any O lineman called (I just don't think we need to go O line in the 1st) and if we do, I hope it involves a trade back.

To me - a big part of the draft leading to our pick is rooting for teams to take guys we don't want. Of those who are expected to be drafted high, who is it that you'd be rooting to hear called (aside from QBs)?

Fine by me - I'm just heading home now ...

Guys I'll be rooting to hear their names called as we wait for our pick: Any QB, any O lineman (none are worthy at 16), John Ross (not a fit), O.J. Howard (6 TEs already, don't need 7), McCaffery (don't think we're interested), Conley (we're waiting until 2nd round for CB ... he's probably off our board anyway).

To be clear, I don't want to see us taking an o lineman in the 1st round. If we do, it better be because Williams, Davis, Barnett, Foster and Reddick are gone and then we trade back. Even that will be disappointing, but picking one (doesn't matter which one) at 16 with one of those guys on the board will make me SMH.

Which very well may be what he will be if we take him.

That should be more to people's liking, than other rumors about Peppers ..

I'd be disappointed if they took Peppers or Robinson at 16 ... but I'll truly be pissed if they do that with Williams, Barnett, Davis or Foster still on the board.

Good lord you are lambasting the FO for what they are rumored to be possibly thinking about doing, rather than what they've done? That's like people who get pissed at you for something you did in one of their nightmares.

I understand that. We shouldn't have to agree with everything. I will use the term in situations like tonight, because, in the end all I'm saying is if they pick someone different than I wanted them to pick, it is silly for me to act like they made a tragic error given they've got a little more insight and experience in this than I do.

Flacco - was hoping we'd find a way to get Ryan, but that quickly was clear it was not possible. Then I wanted Flacco - cause, we'll, I think we needed a QB. Smith - The only thing that had me fuming on the draft day when we got Smith is that I thought we lost him in the trade debacle, when he was sitting there ready for us to pick him. Stanley - leading up to the draft, I didn't want him, but as we got closer, I started to see the rationale, but I still wanted either Tunsil or Ramsey. Then the gas mask happened and I thought, we'll I still hope we get Ramsey, but was cool with Stanley. As so many people have said - I have in mind who I want (that is in the realm of reasonable) ... in order Williams, Barnett, Davis, Foster, Reddick. The O linemen ... if we take one of them and one of those guys I listed are still there, I'll be ... we'll disappointed - not angry. That will last about 2 minutes and then I'll hear all the glowing reports on the guy we picked, hear our staff talk about him and hear from the guy himself and I'll shift right into the Ozzie we trust mode and welcome the guy as our newest Raven.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/26/buzz-builds-for-gareon-conley-being-picked-in-round-three/ It seemed like he was a sure-fire 1st rounder ... possibly even a top 15 pick. No more. I mean, to even spend a 3rd on him is a risk ... he could be poof gone. Who knows, but the timing on this just feels like a shakedown. But teams can't be so cavalier in their evaluation of the situation. I've no idea how a front office is supposed to sort such a thing out, but my sense is that the Ravens will play it safe and take the guy off their board.

If they do that will be a great start to the draft. That would move us toward the dream scenario of 3 QBs taken in the top 15.

I anticipated that the Eagles were going to go for Conley. I guess I have to amend that pick. No way after the news. Not really happy about that ... just means they're picking someone else that we may have wanted. One fewer person pushed down the board.

Well, its settled then .. a WR it is!

I just think that would be absolutely stupid for the Browns to take Trubisky with the #1 overall. They can get their QB with their second pick. If they are in love with Trubisky and they think SF is going to take him, then perhaps it makes sense. I'll love it if his name is called first.

I know I was thinking the same thing. The key here is whether or not Marriotta can stay healthy and be at least a solid franchise QB. If he can be that, with the picks they've been making of late and with the picks they currently have, I firmly believe you are looking at the odds on favorite to dominate that division for the next 5 to 10 years.

That would be fine by me, because I don't think we want him.

I'd suspect they take Garrett at 1 and try to move up from 12 to get Trubisky. The question is whether they'd need to jump the Jets to get him. If so, trading with TEN at #5 is going to be pretty costly, but I think they've got a wealth of picks to make that happen. Of course, that doesn't work if SF is bent on taking him. I just don't think they are. I'm getting excited by the talk of potential run on QBs in the top 15. 3 QBs in the top 15 would be absolutely brilliant. Between CLE, SF, NYJ and either BUF or ARZ ... it certainly is possible, despite all the QB evaluators saying that none of them are worth it. Three in the top 15 will push someone awesome to us (of course, we'll probably still trade back and pick an O lineman!)

... and the variance may be even greater when it comes to what fans think. All I'm saying is for a fan on the boards to call another fan crazy because they are holding out hope that a guy like Williams falls to us ... when a fair number of analysts are predicting it ... is a little condescending. On TEN...I do think you have a good point. I see it as a possibility that Williams goes 5, but it would probably be safer to mock one of the safeties to them (which IMO would be Hooker, as I think that Adams is going #2). I don't view Ross in the same category as Williams or Davis, because he's a different kind of player and also comes with injury risk. While what is contained in the link below could be smoke screen, I tend to think it is real: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/22/durability-could-drag-down-john-ross/ I think TEN could be one of the teams that would not view him as a desirable option and the likelihood that Davis or Williams would be there at 18 is low. To me - if they pick safety at 5, they will need to get their WR option later in the draft and would not use 18 to do it. Personally, I hope someone takes him ahead of us or that TEN stays away from WR, because I don't think he's the guy we need. What I also think is a distinct possibility is that TEN ends up trading out of their #5 pick if someone is really interested in jumping the Jets for a QB. If they fall back to 10 or 12, that will garner a lot of draft capital for TEN and picking Williams there would make sense. Of course, they may be passing on a generational type player at safety ... but that's the stakes in the draft and no one has a crystal ball.

Well - given that in all the national mocks I've seen, Williams has been selected by us more than any other team, there are clearly a significant # of analysts that believe it is possible that he falls to us. So naturally, people are going to think we maybe have a shot. I tend to agree with you - as a matter of fact, I'm thinking he's going to TEN at #5, but I haven't seen but a couple analysts who agree with that. No reason though to act like there is something wrong with anyone who is still hopeful.

Especially if it is the Eagles, as we will be SOOO close ... but I suspect he'll be gone before that.

Well, one of the things that had Davis sliding as far as 16 is concerns around his ankle ... he's clearly trying to allay any fears and, if he does so, may mean he'll be gone before we're on the clock. Given that Ross (who I don't think we have any interest in) is sliding doesn't help. I'm steadily convincing myself that we'll not be nailing either Williams or Davis and we'll be going O line, either by standing pat if there is a guy we really value above the rest, or trading back if we have 2 or 3 guys that we feel are comparable in that position group.

Same.