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Or I could understand if his time here was on a team with a level of success that he had not seen in his days at Carolina. That has just not been the case - through no fault of his own.

Hope none of this stuff is serious.

I still have hopes for Judon, despite the fact that his performance tailed off (in part because an ineffective Doom took most of the snaps he'd been getting). Obviously not enough to make up for all the pass rush deficiencies, but someone we can use in rotation in the coming years. Now cmon KC, join the party!

No worries

Totally agree with that.

Huh - never thought of that, but a pretty good comparison. I really like him and I think he's going to make a nice lead back for us over the coming years.

That was a tragic robbery of a TD from Perriman. They really had enough to call that back?

What blows my mind is how it too 3 quarters to figure out that we just needed to find some way to get the ball in his hands. All other plays just seem like we're saying - go run around out there and see if you can get open

well then let's get him out of the game. It can't be any worse than it is now

That is a sad statement

If it mattered, I'd be livid about the grounding call ... but since they did and we had a 3rd and 18, it is only fitting to have Flacco throw way behind the sticks.

As if it wasn't already time ... time to get Joe off the field. Just want to see us play with someone other than him just for a few drives.

Only fitting that we finish the season with 3 red zone failures and 0 successes.

How is it though that Joe can't get the ball to a wide out to save his life?

I hope not. I hate it when head coaches act as if the reporters don't have the right to ask tough, pointed questions. All I have to do is be rude and they'll stop asking. To me, it is not the reporters tough questions that he needs to worry about anyway. It is the ones that need to come from ownership.

Joe can't seem to get the ball to a wideout to save his life. TE and check down is all we have.

Defense collapse to finish season, Red Zone disasters - story of the season. No point in this at all.

Perhaps some of the freaking out is overreacting, but take a look at what is happening on the field. I think fans have a right to be a little upset. I think ownership as even more of a right to be upset. It will be interesting to hear the tone of the State of the Ravens once this extremely disappointing season (based on the way we closed it out) is wrapped up.

The defense's fall off this past month has been breath-taking. Only bright spot so far this game: Dixon.

It is a good thing we don't need this game or I'd be really pissed. This is moving into the realm of unwatchable.

Its a good thing Green and Eifert are out

I don't like the idea of an extension to smooth out his cap hit for 2016. That to me just increases your long term risk and we're just in the same spot a year later, with an aged player you don't really feel like provides produciton. What do you mean exactly by a "straight paycut"? A team can't just reduce a players pay, can they? Are you talking about a cut in pay by releasing him and then trying to sign him back?

I really do think this is the end of the line for Marvin in CIN. However, I do think he is one that will get another chance. Other teams will view him as an Andy Reid type coach ... a guy who has had relative success but just ran his course on a given team and could succeed with a fresh start somewhere new. You can't blame people for looking to the former HC ranks for a new coordinator. I don't think we are interested continuing to have coaches use our coordinator spot as a stepping stone to an HC job as has been the case. IMO the best coordinator hiring you can get is a guy who was a fantastic coordinator whose time at HC has run its course and they ready to just settle down into doing they probably loved the most in the first place and ride that out to retirement. We came so close in getting that in Kubiak. If Fox didn't do such a terrible job in DEN, he may still be here. I welcome seeing anyone we can get who has a chance to put his imprint on the team and might stay for more than a year or two.

Many have looked at his performance this year, looked at his cap savings for 2017 ($6M = highest on the team) and felt it was a no brainer that he will be cut. Does this news change that view? I don't know. It is hard not to feel like this is bit of campaigning on Dooms part on how he'll actually be worth his contract next year. I still don't think we'll be willing to risk trying to count on him and not use that money elsewhere ... for example, to keep guys on the roster that have future here. Sizzle is a different story. We're beholden to him from a cap standpoint through next year. For him, we have no choice but to hope that he recovers from his current injuries, doesn't get any new ones and can be that vocal leader that is otherwise absent from this team.

@ellicottraven - I wanted to just hit the original point of the post. It has morphed a little into draft approach (BPA v. need, etc) and I want to speak to grading Ozzie on this drafts since 2011 and whether his draft magic is fantasy or reality. Two things I think are flawed with how you laid out the information to use in evaluating performance in the draft: We are talking about grading the draft - not grading how well the team managed cap in order to retain quality players taken. Discounting those no longer on the team is not a valid way to view how well a GM drafted. Is the question how well Ozzie drafted in the early rounds, or is it how well he drafted overall? Cutting it off at round 4 isn't a full evaluation. I also believe the signing of undrafted players is a part of the overall draft process and should be a part of the evaluation as well. If you account for those points above, you can include a number of notable players that you discounted - such as KO, McPhee, Wagner, Tucker and Orr. All that said ... I don't think you will find anyone, not even Ozzie himself, to say that draft performance over these years has been up to our standards. In the view of the rest of the league, I'd say performance grades out at about a C over this span of time. IMO his draft magic was a reality, but he's been living off his reputation over the recent years. I have to think from the ownership standpoint, that we absolutely need to start seeing better results. I'm just not sure what the "or else" is if it doesn't improve.