jravens13

The Pitta, Monroe, and Webby contracts are killing us. So we have to hang on to a mediocre, injury prone LT because we can't cut him? Or a guy who hasn't suited up in 2 years because he won't retire? Or a guy who is clearly not a top 64 CB yet he is getting paid like a top 10 CB because we continue to back load contracts and we can't get out of them???

7 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Couple problems I have with this idea though...

1. Its the most talked about by FANS, not necessarily by people who know what they are talking about. The entire Manziel to Dallas idea is also fan generated, as anybody in touch with football has stated multiple times that it literally makes no sense for that marriage to happen from an actual football perspective.

2. I'm not really buying the Carson Wentz hype, mostly because I don't even know where it came from. Two months ago there was practically zero discussion of him as the top QB prospect, and nothing has happened since then for that to change. There's been no combine, no pro-days, no extra game film generated that has altered anybodies perception of him, so I'm not sure why NOW he's so popular, other than the fact that its an incredibly weak QB class and the media and fans need somebody to hype up.

3. If I'm Dallas and their ownership and popularity, I'm choosing option A... start Romo and try to win a SB in the next few years, because with Romo, they are good enough to do it. I'd be more inclined to wait for somebody like Romo to actually retire than spend a high draft pick in a perceived bad QB class just out of fear of my QB getting hurt again. If you're starting QB is worth anything, and he gets hurt, you're done. The Ravens are picking 6th, and a big piece behind that is the fact that Joe missed half the season. Should we consider taking a QB also because our backups weren't any good? The answer... no. If Romo gets hurt again, and they draft Carson Wentz, Dallas will be picking in the top 10 again for several years to come.

4. I'm not going to play the guarantee game with draft picks, because I'd lose much more often than I'd win. You do that if you want to. As it stands now, I'd be happy to bet against Tunsil being the #1 overall pick, because I think that's an easy bet to win. Any team I get a team with many draft needs picking #1 (and they don't need a QB), and I get my choice between Player A and the field, I'm taking the field.

If there's anything the draft has told us its that the best player in the draft very, very rarely goes #1 overall.

Romo hasn't ever proven he can make a SB run, so I'm not sure why he would somehow pull it off now as he turns 36 in April. Crazier things have happened, but I was being generous to Dallas, knowing that Romo will has earned his keep until his body falls apart. I believe that he won't even make it through a full season next year. If you saw what he brought to the table before his injury and then getting hurt in his first game back, even with one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. And like I said you are banking playing rebuilding mode with a rookie next year or the year after? Dallas is a win now city and it is unlikely Jerry Jones lets a rookie start from day one. They could always bring in a vet to fill the void, but who is out there? 

There was zero hype around Carson Wentz because he played D2/FCS and the media didn't cover him during the CFB season. The scouts knew exactly who he was this entire season, and he will be a high 1st Round pick. Btw many coaches and scouts got to work him out during the Senior Bowl and the consensus is that he is the real deal. Goff, Lynch, Cook, are all capable of being drafted Round 1, and QB is the most important position in the NFL. But it's all just wishful thinking, like I said. 

3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

3 hours ago, jravens13 said:

Tunsil is a Jonathan Ogden type tackle. He is the best player in the draft. Now the Chargers taking Ronnie Staley and Bosa falling to No. 6 seems unrealistic, but if that happens I might loose my mind in excitement.

IMO if Bosa is available at 4, swap picks and trade up so the Jags don't take him. (Cowboys need a QB, but know he will still be there at 6). We would have to give up our 3rd Round Pick, or our 4th and 5th.

Bosa is as sound, and as talented as it gets at DE. On top of that he has an incredible motor and he would bring that intensity that this defense lacks Ex-Suggs.

1. I'd never classify any draft pick as a HOF type player until proven otherwise. I haven't heard anything about Tunsil that I haven't heard before about various prospect LTs. Some of them became very good, and some of them struggled for years. 

2. I have zero idea why people are convinced Dallas is taking a QB at #6, because frankly, it would shock me if they did. I'm not even sure there's a franchise QB in this entire draft class to be honest, and I don't see Dallas taking one to sit on the bench for 2-3 years, which is what will happen. I'd handicap the Browns taking a QB at #2 at 50/50 to be honest, because again, I just don't see who this quality QB is that teams are supposed to fall in love with. I get the whole "you need a QB in this league" idea, and I agree with it, but that doesn't mean you just keep drafting them over and over again and hoping to hit. Cleveland could very easily and justifiably determine that day 2 QBs aren't that much different than day 1 QBs in this draft (and I'd probably agree with that), so it wouldn't make much sense to take one at #2.

Has all the makings of Dallas using a day 2 or 3 pick on a QB, particularly when they probably are legitimate SB-level contenders this upcoming season if they are healthy.

Dallas taking a QB is about the most talked about topic currently, especially at the Senior Bowl. Would you rather start a QB who isn't ready on what is deemed to be a "win now city", or groom one as much as you can before Romo has to hang it up. BTW Romo retiring might be sooner than later, based on his ability to finish the season strong over the last few years and his re-injury history. Clearly the backup QB play is what landed them the 4th overall pick. Everyone in the NFL scouting community seems to believe that Carson Wentz has all the tools you would look for in a successful NFL QB, and it is clear that the QB is the most sought after position in the NFL. Maybe they prefer a guy who will fall to the second Round, but everyone has them all over Wentz. It is merely wishful thinking that both Dallas and Cleveland take a QB with their first picks, but everyone seems to believe that is the most likely outcome. To me Manziel is not even an option for teams, until he can prove that he can put football first. I think he ends up somewhere as a backup again under an established vet.

Tunsil will be dominant. There isn't anything else I need to say other than the fact that he is the best player in the draft and he will be the 1st player taken.

  44 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. I still don't get why Tennessee would draft an OT at #1.

2. Every single team in front of us or even behind us could easily take Bosa. They all have pass rushing and defensive line needs. I see no scenario, as it stands now, where he gets past Dallas at #4.

im just going by what a lot of the mock drafts are predicting. it they want to protect their franchise qb in mariotta than tunsil makes sense.

Tunsil is a Jonathan Ogden type tackle. He is the best player in the draft. Now the Chargers taking Ronnie Staley and Bosa falling to No. 6 seems unrealistic, but if that happens I might loose my mind in excitement.

IMO if Bosa is available at 4, swap picks and trade up so the Jags don't take him. (Cowboys need a QB, but know he will still be there at 6). We would have to give up our 3rd Round Pick, or our 4th and 5th.

Bosa is as sound, and as talented as it gets at DE. On top of that he has an incredible motor and he would bring that intensity that this defense lacks Ex-Suggs.

Vinny Curry, Philadelphia Eagles agree to 5-year, $47.25 million contract: Don't think it is realistic for us to sign him now...

On 1/30/2016 at 4:53 AM, Rasenshuriken84 said:

lol really? rookie pro bowl, second in DRoY (which he should of won), 1st on the team on tackles his rookie year and 2nd on the team this year if i remember right, he was tied for the team lead in INT's his rookie year.

i can totally see where you think he didn't deserve that first round pick *ends sarcasm*

He is an attacking run stuffing LB. But he can't run sideline to sideline, and is a total liability in coverage against RB's and TE's. His open field tackling is average at best. His lateral agility and hips are below average for the position. I also saw him leave his gap assignments opening up huge running lanes in almost every game this season. A guy with his skill set could be found in Round 2-3. Lets not kid ourselves thinking we found the next Luke Kuechly, Navarro Bowman, or Patrick Willis. He isn't even Levonte David, Bobby Wagner, or Danny Trevathan. So far he hasn't lived up to where he was drafted at No. 17 overall. He let Daryl Smith on his final leg out tackle him this year. Now Jaylon Smith or Miles Jack have that Round 1 ability for example...

This article just reminds me how out of reach Super Bowl was this year. Upshaw has proven that he isn't able to develop into a pass rusher. As an edge guy, that makes him a 1 down player in this league. We should replace him through the draft with more speed.

We need to stay at #6. We have enough draft picks and that is assuming we pick well this draft. Only CJ has been worthy of our #1 the last few years. Sorry, Elam was a bust. Perriman did not play and he remains to be seen. Having lots of compensatory picks hasn't helped either because look at where we are now, picking #6 cause we sucked a good portion of season. Not the drinking the kool-aid anymore.

CJ hasn't even proven that he is worth a 1st Round pick yet either.

  1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

Ozzie has a way of fooling people when he has these picks. During the Flacco/Rice draft they moved out and then moved back up to get them both. Same with Ogden and R Lewis. 

They didn't move around at all in this (1996) draft...

I like the 1996 results more...

So much elite talent at the top of this Draft. If we have the opportunity to draft Tunsil, Bosa, Ramsey, Mack, or Jaylon Smith, how could we possibly trade back? If we really want to draft a corner Round 1 and pass up on those guys, that would be the only thing that makes any sense. I could see us moving back to 10th-13th and drafting a CB there.

Tyrod is just proving once again that hard work pays off. Very few people gave him any chance of becoming a starter barring and injury, and he put in the work and now he's got a free trip to Hawaii on top of a nice contract. Congrats!

  2 hours ago, The Greek said:

is the vote up or down feature still available on the site?.

Yeah, but now you have to view the thread in the forums instead of being able to vote while viewing it on the article page. Downgrade.

I agree. The +,- creates more engagement on the site. But the reply window threads are nice.

I would have rather seen an article on the Senior Bowl, seeing that we have drafted so many players in the past that have played in that game and have made strong contributions. I think everyone knows we are not making any splashes in Free Agency, and if we do anything via Trade it will involve draft picks. BTW, KO should thank Monroe for the extra 10M he will have in his pocket after he signs his new contract.

I basically agree with that. I understand why Kubiak was so conservative, but I don't think he came up with some formula to beat Belichick. Doing what they did only works if your defense is dominating. As far as play calling goes, I think Wade Phillips deserves more credit than Kubiak.

Phillips called a great game, but the Offensive Coordinator controls the pace of the game. If Kubiak had let Manning drop back and throw the ball 45 times, I promise you Manning has more turnovers, and that Denver Defense gasses out in the 2nd Half. This is more of a comparison of Kubiak's style of play to Trestman, where we have more stats, but don't protect our defense and let them rest. That's why we saw our defense break in so many games. If we had Kubiak this year, we are at worst 8-8, but it wouldn't have surprised me if we won 10 games. Think about our record with Flacco this year compared to last. And you can't deny that keeping Brady off the field is a good strategy (sticking with the run), or that attacking the middle of the field is a weakness for the Patriots big linebackers stuck in coverage when you spread out the Safety's. 

I actually thought the playcalling was predictable and overly conservative. Kubiak seemed content to continuously punt the ball and rely on his defense. He definitely wasn't keeping Brady off the field. He gave him chance after chance to come back. I don't think that's the recipe to beat Belichick. It only works if you have a dominant defense. The lack of aggression kept the Patriots in the game. You can say it's risky to take more shots, but as we've seen in Baltimore, it's also risky to let the other team hang around and let the game come down to one play.

He had to protect Manning, because Manning's mobility was a huge liability and was taking huge sacks that were killing drives. I thought in the second half they could have hit them with more play action on 1st Down or 2nd Down in certain spots, but Pats D adjusted to their play action and just asked Jamie Collins to ignore the fakes and fly towards Manning. They did enough to win with what they were dealing with on offense: an immobile QB, and a bad O-Line. Keep in mind the field position that the Pats were stuck with, and the fact that Denver could have easily gotten into FG range a few more times if the players executed a few of his calls. Kubiak controlled that game from start to finish. Worst case scenario was OT. 

Gary Kubiak has the recipe to beat Belichick, and that game would have been a blowout if he had a more capable QB than Manning. Other teams should take notes.. Run the ball, control clock (keep brady off the field), attack the middle of the field with physical WR's and TE's. So happy to see Brady fall short after so many chances to take that game into OT. I would like to personally thank Von Miller and all those rushers that got after his rear end.  Makes me sick how many times I watch a pats player beg for another penalty and then Hochuli rewards them with one.

Too many drops to be on the field. Perriman will more than replace his speed and we should add another burner in the draft. Look at what the Steelers have done at WR Ozzie. Santonio Holmes, Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders, Antonio Brown, Martavis Bryant, Sammie Coates will be their next steal. You don't have to spend a 1st Round Pick to get a star in this league. Speed and Work Ethic can be found on Day 2 and 3 as well...

8 Snaps and 0 targets. That's like Revis in his prime lockdown.

Is it a coincidence that the AFC North, known for it's physical style of play went pass happy and then had plenty of QB injuries? One could say every team got away from their running game, and because of it, they find themselves starting backups and sitting at home right now.

I am becoming more of a fan of Miles Jack pairing up with CJ Mosley to lead this defense into the future. It would also give us flexibility when it is time for a new contract for Mosley. The physical attacking style of Mosley paired with the range, versatility, and athleticism of Jack could give this defense something special for years to come. Ramsey and Jack are the type of Athletes that could practically play anywhere on the field. Patrick Peterson esque. If either of them are available, I would say that fits the BPA that Ozzie swears by, but also fills a long term need. Trading back sounds great on paper, but we could be passing up on a HOF type player. Tunsil, Bosa, Ramsey, Jack will all be special players. Hopefully one falls to 6. If not Buckner fits a need and has a freakish frame with a good motor.

ZaDarius definitely looks promising as he got up to the proper playing weight in the 2nd half of the season. I think he was a major part of our pass defense improvement along with the opponents we faced. Lets find another guy to get after the QB so we can have a nice rotation, and be prepared for injuries, because they WILL happen.

For those who say when there is no pass rush the corners get "exposed", it is no secret that in football that receivers with more time to get open are obviously benefitted, especially if they find the gaps in zone coverage. No doubt we need a pass rush in 2016 to be successful, but even the likes of top corners like Revis, Peterson, and Sherman are susceptible to giving up plays if their front doesn't get there.

Jimmy Smith btw when healthy is arguably a top 5-10 corner, when fully healthy, he held his own and some of the completions made on him came in the tightest of windows possible.

Revis is the type of corner that shuts guys down with or without a pass rush. Jimmy is not a shutdown corner, but there are only 4-5 guys that can do that and their shelf life is typically very short (3-5 Years), which is why Revis has been so impressive over the years. 

I feel like we are the Washington Redskins right now. They had the easiest schedule to finish the year after a blowout loss to Carolina, and thought they were actually a playoff team. Green Bay quickly showed them that they are not there yet. We seem to think that our secondary is getting better because we showed improvement on the defensive side of the field at the end of the year, but who did we actually shut down? Ben who we have developed the recipe to beat over the years of Harbaugh? Case Keenum? Ryan Tannehill? AJ McCarron? The only thing we found out is that Jimmy Smith is a good corner when we have a pass rush, but when we can't get there, he will get exposed like the majority of the leagues CB's. Alex Smith, Russell Wilson, Josh McCown didn't have any problems doing what they wanted to accomplish, but they also had plenty of time to throw.

We hit on all the fancy yardage stats, but how about what matters? Points, Points Allowed, and Wins. Sorry, but Trestman's offense was not built for winning this year. Blame injuries, but he needs to control clock, run the ball, and keep our defense fresh. We need to take more deep shots and go for the kill when we have the lead. Pees did not fare well against Good QB's.

To those of you who say Treadwell round 1, why not Doctson or Michael Thomas Round 2? Will Fuller or Sterling Shepard Round 3? Rashard Higgins will be the greatest sleeper of them all.