jravens13

I think a talented CB to go opposite Jimmy is more important than a pass rusher is going into next season.I know Suggs suffered a serious injury and is a year older,but he and Doom played at a crazy high level when they were both on the field together.It's hard to believe that they won't even be good enough playing together next year.Our pass rush looks like it's at the least good enough to win a SB.As is,the secondary doesn't look like a superbowl winning secondary,IMO. Hargraves is the guy for that. We could pick up a pass rusher with our early 2nd Rounder too. Kevin Dodd and Leonard Floyd would be nice!

We have to invest in our Defense. We will not be a consistent team unless we have a playoff level Defense. We will never become the Colt's with Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edge James and I am okay with that. That team STILL had a losing record in the playoffs.

Agreed!

No 1st Round WR!! Round 1: Tunsil, Bosa, Ramsey, Jack, J. Smith, or Hargraves III Round 2: Kevin Dodd, Leonard Floyd, Emmanuel Ogbah, Karl Joseph, Eli Apple, Josh Doctson Round 3: Sterling Shepard, Cyrus Jones, Adolphus Washington, Pharroh Cooper, Tyler Boyd, William Jackson III, Rashard Higgins

Miles Jack and Jaylon Smith would also get this defense it's swagger back. I think Gurley might help teams make a think twice about passing on a future star (Jaylon Smith) and they will wait to get paid their dividends for the long run. How can you rule out Jaylon Smith for the season when he injured his knee in January 1st? Flacco says he will be back by training camp and he injured his knee in November 24th.

No who has played this game has motivated players at much a Ray Lewis. Look at how many coaches he promoted under his wing, look at how many players got big contracts while playing under Ray Lewis. You don't see teams stealing defensive guys now. Manning was just a benefactor of a dominant defense. He played awful and they still won. He didn't get them fired up. The Denver offense played horrible minus a few nice running plays. The defense stole the show. That game goes to Wade Phillips, John Elway and the bunch of wild dogs getting after it.

Treadwell no thanks. We can find value at WR in the 2nd and 3rd Round. Ozzie has failed at WR too many times to take a risk this high and WR isn't a top priority with Smith coming back, Aiken developed into a starter, and Butler looking like he can hold it down in the slot. I think we should sign a Veteran WR if we want to add depth. Hargreaves is too small for me to take that high, and he got smoked in his bowl game by a speedy WR. I think physical WR's will take advantage of him. And he doesn't have great recovery speed/length. Now Bosa, Tunsil, Jack, Ramsey, or Jaylon Smith is what I'm rooting for. Those guys will bring attitude to this team. And they are freaks.

Deepest RB class was definitely the 2008 Ravens when we ran heavy because Flacco was a rookie: Le'ron McClain, Willis McGahee, and Ray Rice. I loved that team. We were so physical on both sides of the football...We lost our physicality ever since the SB, and the retirement of Ray Lewis. Our defense will not be good enough unless we address it heavily through the draft, FA, and underperforming players are willing to take pay cuts, which is unlikely. I think the Trestman offense is all about stats, and does little for the win column because we fail to control time of possession. I think we are somewhere around 8-8, but we get the easy NFC East which could propel us to 10-6, only to get bounced out of the playoffs quick.

Wow, I did not know that. He pretty much stepped into stardom in his second year. It is amazing that somehow he fell through the cracks.

Ray Lewis meant a lot more to this team than Manning did. Not in term's of play on the field, but instead motivation. He always made everyone around him better. Manning only cared about dropping some poor taste Budweiser ads.

Elite is a meaningless adjective to label a QB with. There are so many other moving parts that affect the play of a QB: Offensive line play, the offensive game plan/play calling, WR's play, the running game, the defense, Special teams play, field position, penalties, playing through an injury, and the most underestimated of them all: LUCK. Cam Newton is the closest thing I have seen to a QB putting a team on his back, yet he still had a dominant defense, an excellent play caller, good kicking game, and played with great field position. Even with all that in place, we all got to see how that fell apart when his O-Line, Running Game, and WR's vanished. QB is the most important, yet overrated position in the NFL. If that makes any sense. Keep handing out the $100M dollar contracts to mediocre QB, and watch as more and more average QB's win Super Bowls. The money could be better spent. I would rather spend a 1st Round pick on a QB than pay one $25M a year.

Newton not diving on that fumble, combined with the lackadaisical offense that had ZERO concern for the clock when they were down in the 2nd half made me question the credibility of the entire game. The Panthers offense looked gassed out at the end of the first half, and normally they get stronger as the game goes on. Maybe the pressure of Denver was just that overwhelming, but it almost looked like the two teams were drinking different Gatorades on the sideline...Conspiracy? Who knows... But to break down Denver's Defense is is much more than two dominant edge rushers (Ware and Miller) They also have THREE 1st Round picks as their starting CB's (Roby, Talib, and Harris). They have interior lineman that are stout, yet also capable of generating a rush (Derek Wolfe, Malik Jackson, and Sylvester Williams). They have ILB's that were late draft picks (Marshall &Trevathan), but can absolutely fly sideline to sideline, because they are undersized compared to the history of the position. Their speed also gives them an advantage in coverage, and in blitzing situations. They invested heavily in their SS TJ Ward, and their FS (Darian Stewart) is a journeyman who played well for us last year. They also have some decent depth at certain positions, DE and OLB where they can keep guys rushing the passer fresh. Credit Elway the QB, for adjusting to today's Pass happy game and getting personnel that will terrorize opposing QB's and a coach with a history of bringing pressure (Wade Phillips). On their Defense they had (6) former 1st Round Picks, and (2) 2nd Rounders. Our defense is not built anything like this: Former 1st Rounders: (3) Suggs, Mosley, J. Smith Former 2nd Rounders: (3) Upshaw, Daryl Smith, Jerrnigan We clearly haven't invested enough in our defense over the last 5 years, as we have emphasized adding to the offense. And our offense is still just mediocre. Elway has the modern recipe for what works on defense. Ozzie might be living in the 2000s still.

I don't know what your last sentence means. But there are a few locks in this draft: Miles Jack, Jaylon Smith, Leremy Tunsil, and Joey Bosa. This class reminds me of 2011 where there were a ton of pro bowlers.

Was 52 in his prime? Check. End Discussion.

Congrats to Owen Daniels, Darien Stewart, and Gary Kubiak!

And he has the qualities of a true Raven. I am a fan of this guy already.

Pick Monster is a great nickname.

All I am saying is that we have not been aggressive enough in the 1st Round, trading up for guys who in my eyes were locks. Oher I knew nothing about, but Peters had the making of a lock down Corner. Perriman was raw, and notorious for drops in college. I didn't like the pick at the time, but I still have high hopes for him based off his size/speed. I would have preferred Peters all day. One player is never the answer. I never made that claim. The guys I named were guys I thought we could have easily traded up for based on where we were drafting. Dez Bryant, Ogletree, and Peters stand out the most to me though.

And a STUD LT. LOL

DEFENSE wins Championships...

I think Shepard will be a legit NFL WR. There is something about those undersized guys that want it more than everyone. Steve Smith, Antonio Brown, Julian Edelman, Odell Beckham.

Yes we are. Defense wins championships and we don't have a playoff caliber defense. We could have been aggressively trading up to draft the Defensive Rookie of the Year: Marcus Peters who showed all the signs of being a star coming out of Washington. Swapping the 26th Pick for the 17th would have cost us our 2nd Round pick and in return we would have received the trade partner's 4th Rounder. How much better would our team have been this year if we had Peters starting at CB with Jimmy Smith instead of Breshad Perriman and Maxx Williams? No doubt, Maxx Williams looks promising, but we found value in TE in the 5th Round. I think Ozzie needs to get more aggressive and trade up for the guys we truly covet at high impact positions. This wait and see what happens approach has let us miss out on 2015: Peters, 2013: Desmond Trufant, Alec Ogletree, Sharrif Floyd Xavier Rhodes, 2012: Donta Hightower, Chandler Jones, 2010: Dez Bryant. Lats time we traded up for a player in the 1st Round was 2009 Michael Oher. We can't miss in the 1st Round.

Cam Newton is going to destroy Denver.

Stewart and Ihedigbo were both great players for us in Baltimore. They were just older vets who weren't draft picks. The coaching staff, along with Ozzie decided that they were the scapegoats for the poor corner play, or thought that our young guys Elam and Brooks could replace them for less money. Will Hill belongs on this team, but I didn't see why Kendrick Lewis had all that hype watching him play in purple this year. I would have been fine rolling with Stewart and Hill.

Those contracts really weren't backloaded at all though, especially Monroe's and Pitta. Most long-term deals are hard to get out of in the first three years due to the guaranteed money and signing bonuses attached to them, which is the case here. Plus, in Monroe and really Webb's case, there's also a lack of realistic, replaceable options available. Pitta's base YR1: $1M, YR2: $4M, YR3: $5M, YR4: $5.5M YR5: $5.5M (Looks back loaded) Monroe's Base: YR1: $1M, YR2: $5.5M, YR3: $6.5M YR4: $6.75M YR5: $6.75M (looks back loaded) Webby signed his original deal in 2012, but took a pay cut and they guaranteed more money for him in the out years. He is now a Safety so we need a corner. Osemele can play LT. But we clearly never worked him out there until had already traded and signed Monroe. Our mismanagement of funds has been almost as bad as our recent 1st Round draft history. I'm just waiting for things to go right for a change because it has been a while since we handled Free Agency and the Draft properly.