jravens13

I just want a defensive minded draft and the effort to get back to being a physically dominant defensive team. That is how we became consistent winners and had a track record in the playoffs. Adding another WR, TE, and RB did nothing for the win column in 2015. Average QB's on defensive minded teams that won the SB in this century: (Trent Dilfer 2000, Tom Brady 2001, Brad Johnson 2002, Tom Brady 2003, Big Ben 2005, Eli Manning 2008, Eli Manning 2011, Joe Flacco 2012, Peyton Manning 2015). The majority of those teams didn't even have overwhelming offensive weapons. Joey Bosa, Jaylon Smith, Vernon Hargreaves, and Myles Jack are all great options at No. 6.

I just want a defensive minded draft and the effort to get back to being a physically dominant defensive team. That is how we became consistent winners and had a track record in the playoffs. Adding another WR, TE, and RB did nothing for the win column in 2015. Average QB's on defensive minded teams that won the SB in this century: (Trent Dilfer 2000, Tom Brady 2001, Brad Johnson 2002, Tom Brady 2003, Big Ben 2005, Eli Manning 2008, Eli Manning 2011, Joe Flacco 2012, Peyton Manning 2015). The majority of those teams didn't even have overwhelming offensive weapons.

Well I have heard of 13 on the list and actually thought it was interesting! We are a smaller market east coast team and unlikely to get much of Hollywood on our bandwagon. Unless Harbaugh decides to build that dynasty he was always talking about...

Go watch how they play on youtube. See who wins the battle at the line of scrimmage and see how they do it. You will understand why I favor Bosa over Buckner.

I credit you for doing your research on Buckner. I would rather draft a guy who does everything right and never stops grinding over a guy who cheats technique and takes plays off. The "first step" is a non factor for me. I'm just gonna keep my fingers crossed and hope that I am buying a Jaylon Smith, Joey Bosa, or Vernon Hargreaves jersey this year.

QB: The most important and most overrated position in the NFL. Flacco needs help on the defensive side of the ball.

Laughable comparison to Upshaw. Buckner can't hold Bosa's jock. It is funny to see how many people already bought the hype.

I understand that you think Bosa isn't as fast out the gate as some smaller rushers, but he is 6'6" 275. His style of play is more of a run stuffing, bull rushing/rip technique. He will need to add more moves to his game, but you can't deny how powerful he is, and how he gets after it. And I am telling you that I don't see the explosiveness from Buckner. Maybe he has straight line speed, but he really isn't that quick. He also just throws his shoulders into guys and plays very lazy. Bosa is a lock to be a great contributor in the NFL. Or you could roll the dice in the top 10 for a guy who might be no more than a rotational interior lineman. My hope is that all these "experts" help Bosa fall to No. 6 cause he absolutely manhandled college talent. Buckner is honestly not Top 15 material. Watch Voch Lombardi on youtube: He breaks down both players very well, but also feels like Bosa isn't Von Miller material. Who is lol?

What is Boyle on? And the suspension seems lengthy. Is this the MLB?

Are we watching the players? They both played Michigan State this year. Watch their game film on youtube. Bosa was causing nightmares for the QB, and Michigan State never ran at him. Buckner was a non factor in the MSU game, and was getting pushed around. MSU is a great gauge of talent because they have an NFL caliber O-Line. Bosa doesn't not cheat technique, or his responsibility, and he is incredible powerful. His motor does not stop, and he beats Tackles and Guards on a regular basis off the edge and against the run. Bosa is much quicker and has more moves in his arsenal than Buckner. Buckner honestly does not get off of blocks and win at the line of scrimmage enough for me. I don't think Buckner has developed the ability to play with good leverage, and I do not think he is worthy a top 10 pick. Buckner played against subpar talent in a pass happy conference. Bosa played against some of the best linemen in the country and might have had the sack record if he played in the Pac 12. Bosa is Suggs 2.0

We ranked 24th in Points Allowed last year. 6th in Points allowed in 2014 with Kubiak controlling the clock. 11th in 2013, 12th in 2012. What I see from this defense in the regression in the ability to stop higher end QB's and Offenses. Sure we look good against the Rams, but how good do we look against good QB's? Andy Dalton, Carson Palmer, Russell Wilson, Alex Smith. We had an easy schedule and still couldn't stop a lick. Even in 2014 we struggled vs the better QB's. We used to dominate (Top 5). Sure with the right additions we could enter the Top 10 discussion again, but I think Pees is a major part of the equation that we have not resolved. There has to be a better D-Coordinator out there. I will credit him for figuring out Pittsburgh. I just don't think his play calling uses our players to their strengths.

Joe Haden is 5' 11" and is a Pro Bowl caliber CB. Revis is 5' 11", Vontae Davis is 5' 11", Chris Harris is 5' 10", Josh Norman is 6'. Most successful CB's in the NFL are 5'11-6'1". Peters is 6' 0" also. Hargreaves might measure out at 5' 10", but his footwork, tackling ability, and relentless style of play make him worth drafting very high. Ramsey looked pretty poor playing corner, but his athleticism allows him to make plays on the ball. He wasn't an impact player at corner like he was at safety. It was obvious, and he got beat a lot. Hargreaves has serious ball skills btw. 10 Int's in 3 years as a starter. Ramsey had 3 Int's in 3 years, and 0 playing outside at CB in 2015. I hope someone reaches for Ramsey before No. 6 though. My eyes are set on Jaylon Smith, or Bosa (miracle), and Hargreaves as the backup plan.

I don't see the explosiveness from Buckner to make him a Top 10 Pick. He is somewhat of a lazy pass rusher, but played in a pass happy conference with poor offensive line play. Would you honestly draft an interior lineman/run stuffer No. 6 overall when we already have some other promising young guys at the position? (Guy, Urban). The hype around Buckner is 100% about his size and his senior sack total. Look at the scores in the games he played. Those teams were throwing the ball nearly every time.

We are not close to being a top defense. But a good corner, and another pass rusher would definitely help bridge the gap. I would love Bosa, but I don't think it will come true. I would rather take Veron Hargraves, who will be a great CB, over Jalen Ramsey who will play Safety in the NFL. Buckner comes with a huge risk, as Oregon players have a poor track record in the NFL. Although he has a huge frame, I do not think he is explosive enough to really contribute as a pass rusher in the NFL. He is also a 3-4 DE, which has much less of an impact on the defense compared to an OLB or CB. Jaylon Smith is worth waiting for the recovery IMO. He might be the best defensive player in this draft.

JJ Watt ran a 4.84 40. Suggs ran a 4.84 also. He is just fine. Bosa is like a hybrid between Suggs and Watt, and will bring much needed chaos to our defense.

Flacco's record since his contract: 22-22, 1 Playoff appearance in 3 years. 1 playoff win in 3 years. He is now overpaid, but so are most QB's in the NFL. The real issue is the fact that we have not addressed the defensive side of the football near enough since we won the Super Bowl. We have attempted patch up work on major flaws in our defense that have failed us when it matters. We have given some players and coaches too much time to continue to be let downs (Pees, Webb, A. Brown, M. Elam, C. Upshaw, A. Jackson, ). Accept the fact that CB's can only play at a high level for 3-5 years. The Webb contract was just as bad as the Pitta contract. We have drafted only 2 CB's in the first three rounds in 8 years under Harbaugh, and we wonder why our CB's can't cover!!!

1st Round:. We should be BPA: Jalen Ramsey is a playmaking safety, but he is not an NFL corner. Hargraves is exactly what we need at the CB position. His ability to tackle, cover, and relentless style of play is going to make him one of the better CB's in this league. He literally never quits on the play. Watch his film against Alabama. He also matched up with the best player he faced for the last 3 years. 1. Laremy Tunsil OT 2. Joey Bosa DE 3. Jaylon Smith ILB/OLB 4. Miles Jack ILB 5. Vernon Hargraves CB 6. Jalen Ramsey S There is plenty of value in the second round at DE/OLB. I wonder if that causes us to take a CB or ILB at No. 6. If we take a WR, I have lost all faith in this team.

He won't retire or restructure. I will become a Pitta hater if that is the case. He got paid millions to rehab for the last 2 years. $11M Signing Bonus. $5 Million base. This year he is due another $5M. Not what we pay our players for.

There are some great pass rushers that will fall to the 2nd Round. I would rather get and elite player (BPA) at No. 6 than trade back. Tunsil, Bosa, Jack, Smith, Ramsey, or Hargraves III. Look at Kevin Dodd, Emmanuel Ogbah, Leonard Floyd, Josh Perry, Jon Bullard, Shaq Calhoun in Round 2. There will be plenty rushers available when we pick at No. 36.

I agree. Jack is the future of the ILB position. You must be able to cover RB's, TE's, and slot WR's in space. Jaylon Smith would be great to have also.

How about kicks when the game was on the line? Sign him to a long term deal and tag KO if we can't sign him to a deal.

If Pitta doesn't retire or restructure to take the league minimum, he has lost all credibility in Baltimore.

And we will not have the opportunity to draft the best CB in the draft for a very long time if we don't take a CB in the top 10 this year. It could forever be our achilles heel in the playoffs under the Harbaugh regime.

We keep talking about it because we actually do have cap space. This year we have the option to keep all of our players if we wanted to. Usually we lose 3-4 starters and look for cheaper replacements but not this year. We don't have much but we can make a move if it's worthwile. We have don't have cap space, unless Flacco, Webb, and Monroe take a pay cut. Pitta needs to retire. We have room to sign a few cheap vets on their last leg, but that is about it.

Ramsey is not worth trading up for. He isn't even going to play CB in the NFL. He is much better suited, and more of an impact player at Safety, with the ability to move all over the field where he can line up at Nickel CB from time to time. If we wan't the best CB in the draft, stay at 6, and let Vernon Hargraves III fall into our laps.