GrimCoconut

We need a CB.  

Howard, Lattimore, Allen, Hooker, Lamp, Watt, Humphrey still on the board.  So we will see what happens here.  I can definitely see us going defense with how this has fallen so far.  Then again, we're headed to death row where the teams who may take the guys we want are.  This next stretch all have similar needs to our own.

I hope Carolina takes Cam Robinson

There goes Adams.  Hardly surprising.  

1 minute ago, arnie_uk said:

Told y'all. Davis would be gone before Williams 

I like Davis better than Williams and I thought there was a real chance Davis could fall to us.  Man, that sucked. 

Ugh, that hurts. 

Just now, JO_75 said:

If the Titans don't go safety then the Jets and Chargers will be sitting nicely with both safeties on the board for their picks.

Jets could easily go QB and SD could also follow suit.  I think SD will go safety, though, too.  They need someone back there.  

The draft is falling nicely for us so far. 

1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

3 picks and 2 shocks.  

i think this is definitely more shocking than trubisky. with buckner and armstead they have a clear type on the front, and 2 guys to play the 3/5 positions. honestly, where does thomas go? i mean obviously he takes armsteads spot but they now have brand new first round picks who are gonna be hitting the bench often

Don't forget that people said the same thing when the Jets took Leonard Williams.

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

Interior pressure is more disruptive and Buckner can play outside.

Yeah.  I like their front.  Armstead and Thomas inside and Buckner and Lynch as ends.  Not a bad group. 

Just now, SepticeyePoe said:

I wouldn't wish for someone to bust, but grrr... freaking browns

Myles Garrett is my favorite player in the Draft but I gotta hope he busts now.  Great guy.  He's made millions already and he's very simple as a guy so he shouldn't end up spending it all like some. Hopefully he pulls a Borland. 

I hope Trubisky is the best QB from this class and Garrett becomes the biggest bust ever.  

Man, I hate this pick.  I'm glad we got Stanley.

Just now, JoeyFlex5 said:

hue stood up looking mad. theyre taking garrett

Rumors were Hue wanted Garrett so if he's mad I guess they passed on him.

4 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

 

You saved us.  You are forever a saint.

I can't believe nobody did the pool pic here.  SMH!

Let's go! My final draft here.  

You did a nice job here and I like how you predicted Davis as our pick since I think it's a real possibility. Personally, I think our first pick is between WR Davis, OLB Chris Harris or a higher rated guy who slips, CB Humphrey or a higher rated guy who slips.  If Allen or Howard somehow fall, I can guarantee they will be Ravens. Other than that, I think it'll be one of those 3. Williams is a good pass rusher and I've been hard on him for his bad angles to the QB and leaving his lane of responsibility but he's fast and has shown commitment to getting better. I think it could be him, Watt, Rivers or Bowser as our second round pick unless we go OLB in the first. 

I like Bisnowaty, and the other picks are okay. It's hard to project those late round guys because those are usually small school colleges and obscure players or guys who fall further than they should. I wonder if King will be there but other than that it all makes sense and this is an especially good DB draft so he can fall through the cracks. 

The real question is whether we go after a top guy in a loaded class at that position, or whether we attack a top guy at a weak position group in hopes of gambling later.  I'd prefer to go after the best talent and not try to fill holes with mediocre talent. 

Not sure why this is getting hate. This is a pretty good mock draft. I like Humphrey and while there were others on the board I would've taken over Humphrey I still like the pick. Lawson is an injury concern but there's no denying him in the second and then Elfein is a HUGE get for me. I love that pick. Juju is okay not bad at all. I like what you did here

I would be disappointed if we took Cam Robinson but I don't think we will. FWIW, it's not because I think Cam is or will be a bad player; rather, it's because we took a LT high last year and he's certainly not even close to being my favorite OL in the first. I'd rather take Lamp way before Robinson. 

7 hours ago, OriolesMagicPlease said:

Just make it good. And shirtless.

Whoa. This may be brilliant--let's give the Ravens a taste of what they'll get via social media lol

4 hours ago, K-Dog said:

You don't want mine shirtless. 

This is priceless 

26 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Young honestly flashed CB #1 ability last year. There's a very real chance he becomes a top 15 guy.

 

And don't give me the size crap. Brandon Flowers was a top OUTSIDE CB for years at 5'9 and did well vs. guys who are 6'3+. Same goes for Jason Verertt who was great last season. Even made a pro bowl.. Young plays bigger than his size, and did very well after mostly playing the outside last season. I know fans want a bigger corner, but Young is the real deal on the outside. 

 

I do think Ramsey has top 5-10 potential at the position, but if the team views Young as a potential #1 CB, then he will be given the same responsibilities as Ramsey. Which btw, they might. Young is that good

Jason Verrett, Brandon Flowers, Antoine Winfield, Chris Harris Jr are all very close to Young in height.

8 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

 

I think its going to be

 

1-WR

2-Pass Rush

3a-O Line

3b-CB

I agree with this. I think you're exactly right with your guess here. I don't think a pass rusher will be there worth the first round pick and I think we'll see a WR we like a lot that's available. I don't think we necessarily need to replace Jernigan early. 

8 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

More in running situations though.  Not in true nickel sets.  They certainly played together but I don't think you can expect Pierce to be a pass rushing presence in the mold of Jernigan.

That's true but that's where you use your rotation. Jernigan is arguably a more complete player and Pierce looked good rushing the passer at times but I have no idea how he'll hold up in that role permanently. I don't know if we even intend to replace Jernigan with Pierce. Could be Kaufusi, Urban, Pierce or Henry or maybe Davis. Henry makes sense from a quick glance but he needed work so hopefully he's made big strides 

8 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Correct the team has always used a hybrid of a 3-4 and 4-3, but Jernigan only playing about 50% of snaps the last 8 games is a sign that he was not a necessary signing. Unfortunately now the team has to fill Guy's role which I think will be the most underrated loss this offseason, and now Jernigan's. I like the trade and value, people will love to think Jernigan would be a top free agent and net a 3rd round comp in 2019, but in all honesty he has shown flashes but he is not consistent, plus hearing coaches say he was not dedicated in the gym as much as they would've liked.

I think the defense becomes more of a 4-3 team especially since the team has yet to find an athletic freak to fill Suggs' spot at OLB and I think that is the big thing. While Suggs is good he is aging and we are starting to slowly see less and less pressure each year, I think these younger guys unless the team somehow lands an crazy athletic guy, I think it is easier for these young DE's in college to stay at DE at the next level.

I think Pierce gets a lot of playing time this year. People are overreacting to Jernigan leaving. There are a lot of young high draft picks that can fill his void. This team has never had an issue replacing defensive linemen. 

I think we're moving to more consistent use of the 4-3 alignment and I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted a safety and used Tony Jefferson as a pseudo LB at times in a 4-3. I think it makes sense to have two run stuffing big bodies at interior DL in Williams and Pierce inside to keep Mosley and especially Correa clean from blocks to makes plays. 

43 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Well then that goes back to my other argument where I have no idea which direction this team is heading, but that's a whole different argument in and of itself.

Again, Pierce and Jernigan are not comparable.  Pierce will play some 3T but it's not going to be as a pass rusher.  He's a competent pass rusher for a NT but he's not a guy that's going to go out there and shoot gaps like Jernigan could.  They do not function in the same role, and they do not have the same skill set.

Furthermore, it's nice to get a 25 spot bump but I don't think it benefits us all that much.  Sure, we get a better prospect than we might have otherwise but it's still the draft where anything can happen.  I'd rather us have gotten an early 4th straight up, even with a small drop in value, to have that extra pick to fill one of the holes that we've pretty much yet to fill this offseason.  I just don't see the value for us, creating another hole.

If I recall correctly, I remember us showing a lot of 4 man front looks last year where we used Williams and Pierce as interior DL. Perhaps that's the plan and it's why we let Jernigan go due to the numbers game and his inconsistent play. 

I'm with you here in finding this move questionable but I guess we'll see if it was good or not soon enough. The team better nail this draft because the FO has made some slightly questionable decisions 

Just now, Sami84 said:

no i wasn't.

 

stop BS'ing

I'm not. I'm only telling you what you said and you threw praise his way.