GrimCoconut

I'll be sad if the Eagles take Sidney Jones. 

I'll say the Eagles go CB Awuzie.  

3 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

McCaffrey and Samuel to help out Cam?  That offense could be so dangerous now.

And no real OL to give him time lol

4 minutes ago, MadStorkSociety said:

I don't think we know how to negotiate well. We failed trying trying to trade up last year for Jalen Ramsey. The year before we had a trade fiasco with Chicago & were late with our pick. We certainly don't get these massive bags of picks like some other teams manage to wrangle.

That was 2011 with Chicago not 2015. 

Just now, arnie_uk said:

I agree with the later. You can tell there is guys they love but they covet picks too much and are gun shy

Yeah, true.  I'm not sure I can say we "probably" would've taken him but I will say we covet picks too much and it makes us hold onto picks when you need to go for the throat.  Sadly, it's understandable since part of the problem is the late picks are where we have the most success. So it's a question of if you want to give up the area where you actually succeed to improve an area where you haven't lately.  

Just now, Grapple Raven said:

I am just baffled why this organization can't recognize great, quality, healthy WR's.  It is a mystery to me.

We probably would've taken Jones but the Ravens weren't about to trade up for him.  That's the real issue here--not recognizing where to trade up. 

Just now, rmw10 said:

Definitely a good player, but man, I'm not sure how I feel about the injuries.  I've had trouble placing him for that reason.

Same here and this is why I just have big reservations on taking him.  He has the talent but the injuries are a real red flag for me.  He's like Ross.  He's got talent and you know he could be a devastating player but you also just don't know if he will be healthy. 

I can't see Lamp falling past Chargers but I would love it if he does.

I didn't know the WR coach for the Bills was the WR coach at ECU who coached Zay Jones.  That makes even more sense now that I know that information.  That's an ideal fit that should've been telegraphed lol.

Just now, Grapple Raven said:

Bills select I can't even say it.

You OK?  I know that has to hurt.  It's how I felt last night seeing PIT take Watt and IND take Hooker.  I'm still pissed over that.

Wow.  Zay Jones to the Bills?  Well, someone here is hurting real bad. 

Just now, rmw10 said:

They need one.  Makes sense.

Yeah. JuJu would make sense

I'm guessing this is Kizer for BUF. 

Cardinals just replaced Jefferson.

Bills and ARI trade up?  Could it be a QB run?

I actually think Robinson is a pretty good prospect.  I know people love to hate on that guy and he's my least favorite 1st round prospect but I would've been more than fine with him in the 2nd round.   He's great value here.  He has the potential to be sure.

5 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I'm guessing JAX traded up for QB or Robinson (I hope)

Yessir.

I'm guessing JAX traded up for QB or Robinson (I hope)

Ted Thompson looks like he's lost and doesn't know where he is.

1 minute ago, hn68wb4 said:

I woudn't knock it at 74, he was my top CB in the draft before the injury

Yeah, Jones would be a great get for me.  I love that kid.  If he is there at our 3rd round pick I would strongly consider him.  It would be hard to pass on him.  He also has those balls skills--serious ball skills. 

1 minute ago, Maryland said:

I've got my mini-big board ready 

Zay Jones (reminds me of Deandre Hopkins)
Forrest Lamp (probably unrealistic to fall)
Melifonwu (probably going to the Seahawks, but if not, he's an intriguing H/W/S prospect)
Tanoh Kpassagnon (5T DE who needs development, but has a high ceiling)
Tim Williams (Could be a great DPR or a drug suspension bust)
Budda Baker (undersized FS)
JuJu Smith-Schuster (Boldin clone)
Tyus Bowser (ideal rush-LB, needs development, high ceiling)
Carl Lawson (ideal rush-LB with first round talent and extensive injury problems)
Malachi Dupre (I think he's very underrated due to LSU's OC and QB problems, guy gets open and makes tough catches)
Zach Cunningham (ILB who excels in pass coverage but is a bit lightweight to take on blockers)
Jordan Willis (undersized DPR)
Cam Robinson (if they see him as a LG, an ok pick)
Ahkello Witherspoon (good corner with great length)
Sidney Jones (first-round corner before achilles tear)
Kareem Hunt (love his balance and ability to get yards after contact, reminds me of Dixon tbh)
Cooper Kupp (white guy slot receiver with some size)
Pat Elflein (fits our blocking scheme more than Pocic, and we need a C)


I really don't want Wormley unless it's day 3, but he's projected round 2 in many drafts... He's the type of underwhelming high-character guy we're stuck on drafting lately. 

Also don't want Mixon or Dalvin Cook for character reasons. McDowell I've decided I don't want based on character unless it's late.

Yep, I like a lot of these guys for us.  Williams is a guy I am iffy on but I like him.  I'd throw Derek Rivers in this group, too.  Rivers and Willis are two of my top guys for us at OLB as well as Bowser. 

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

That's why I consider OL as more of a consideration, because I'm not sure one of those top guys actually makes it down to us.  With the way the OL board fell, I'd be much more inclined to hope someone like Dion Dawkins is around at our first 3rd.

Yeah that and Pittsburgh just got Watt and CLE drafted Garrett and you know our entire division will likely draft at least another pass rusher in this draft.  

1 minute ago, Cville-Raven said:

If they took Sidney Jones I wouldn't knock it honestly

That's who I was thinking.  Shoot, I would even strongly consider King if he's still there at our 2nd round pick.  Imagine having a secondary of King, Smith, Humphrey, Carr and Young.  Wow.  That's just CBs, too.

Just now, rmw10 said:

I don't think it's out of the question.  I'm going to guess they're going for a pass rusher though.  Think there are just enough left for us to get one in our range.  OL would be my other consideration in round 2.

Round 3, I expect BPA within reason.  No specific positions in mind.

I really want Lamp but I think there's a snowball's chance he makes it to us.  He would be a great pick for me.  I'm not a big fan of Robinson but I wouldn't even argue him as our 2nd round pick TBH. I do want a pass rusher really really bad though.  We're definitely going to need to take a pass rusher with our second or our first 3rd round pick. 

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

Just hating for the sake of hating.  We know the reality.

 

Regardless, onto day 2 where I expect a ton more hate because that's the cool thing to do around here.

What do you think we'll do?  I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens even took another CB and shocked the world.  That would be a page totally out of GB and MIN book since they did this same stuff as well with success in the past.  

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I <3 all of the people bashing the pick that did not once appear in the draft section.

They're probably forming their opinion based off of what Vinny Cerrato said.  He did not like the pick.

Just now, rmw10 said:

Agreed.  If we were as high on Reddick as it seems, we should also be high on Bowser.  They have similar skill sets, but as you said, one is a better pass rusher and one is better in coverage.  You're taking a chance on the development, but he always has a role with his pass coverage skills at the very least.

You think it's Reddick we wanted? It could've easily been Barnett