GrimCoconut

Never grow old of black hawk down either

What a great movie.

Well, apparently I hit 10k posts. Do I get to learn the secrets now as well?

They definitly have some young talents in sharawy, balotelli, borini and so on, they just don't take them to the tournament, maybe they feel better playing with an average over 30 years lol

You never no idea how frustrating it is to know the youth that's there but to not see it played. It's so annoying. I want to slap them sometimes.

They do like to play old players. It's annoying. It wasn't a problem back then but now it is. We've lost our best older players and then we have the problem of not cultivating our youth.

Lol. I see, and a fair point. As to the other teams, I don't like France either, never have. And while I couldn't stand Germany before, I think they have turned it around and I really like some of the players there, and their playing style. So I'm not a hater against Germany anymore.

I feel like I have to hate the Germans lol. It's like me liking the Ravens but also liking the Steelers. I won't even get into the French. I can't stand that team. My most hated team in football.

Why Brazil?

They have more bandwagon fans than any team I've personally ever seen or experienced. Their fans are so cocky as well. They remind me somewhat of Patriots fans.

I think I hate the Azzurri even more lol

They play this old school catenaccio style I can't watch this and the Serie A is ....

That's absolutely true. They're not flashy at all and that's a very fair criticism. It's one I put aside because of how much I love the team lol. I probably would be bored by their style if I wasn't such a fan but I am.

The truth is they are very talented but really need to get their youth involved. That's killed them in major tournaments in the past.

Lol me too, but the Germans build a great team and I actually enjoy watching the play

I can't deny that but I really, really hate that team lol. I loved when my Azzurri beat them in their own country when they hosted.

The u21 team of Spain is scary, they could win against some senior national teams. Isco, Thiago, Tello, Bartra, De Gea those are future all stars and they even have a guy named Muniain on the bench, that's crazy

For the confed cup I'd have to say Germany and Spain are the clear favorites. The Germans have such a strong team I think they are even better than Spain

I hate the Germans nearly as much as the French and Brazilians

Both gimmicks, sad they're being forced

I see. I have mixed feelings. Again I am a diehard Nintendo fan for life. Diehard. I've owned every Nintendo system that's of note. Never had the virtual boy as I was way too young for that. With that said you are accurate in that Nintendo can be called gimmicky but where's the line between gimmick and innovation? It's fine and I personally love the Wii and its controller but not for all games. Some games it's awesome and some it's terrible. I don't like rpg with the Wii mote.

With that said Nintendo has had its share of gimmicks like the stupid card reader for the Gameboy Advance I believe. That was so dumb. But with all its gimmicks Nintendo innovates better than anyone and they help expand the media to improve it.

It's a gimmick.

So what's your opinion of the Playstation Eye or the Xbox Kinect?

our own berry got arrested

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6761/damien-berry

That's not good for him at all.

Your Azzurri? Then you should know it was a draw

lol I read that wrong. Sorry. I read it as Netherlands. My bad haha. My bad man.

That was one of the tougher matches for the Azzurri.

Yup. My fellow norwegians put a whopping on the English team. And yeah, Spain are clear favorites.

Let's see how they do against my Azzurri lol.

So you do have a sense of humor! Very timely. lol

Yeah. I thought so anyway. What made you question it lol

Smooth lol

He just finished watching Fast & Furious 6. I can't blame him. 

Zelda is what Nintendo gamers spout everytime, and I just don't see it. I've played the series extensively and it is basically the same thing over and over, and the story is not that deep. I'm not saying that having 'you' be the hero isn't a valid strategy anymore, I just don't it works the way they set up that franchise. I find the games rather dull, and it's one of those areas where Nintendo's lack of production values shows up in a big way. There's no reason for any game like that, with the technology we have, to not be voiced over. It's about getting par for the course, and it's very easy to get there. It's a constant throughout Nintendo's games, and it bothers me a lot. I don't think Metroid is anything special either.

Nintendo hasn't excited me in years, even two generations ago the GameCube was my neglected system. I think their hardware has displayed a lack of awareness of what gamers want, with the stupid waggle motion controller and the unwieldy television sized controller they recently implemented. They generally have a lack of third party support, and if Zelda and Metroid are all they have to offer to the hardcore crowd I don't see the point.

You're not going to convince me that Nintendo wouldn't be better off as a mobile game company. Their shallow lighthearted gaming would greatly appeal to that crowd, it features consumers that fit into their casual and expanding market share, and it's an area that's just waiting for a big developer who understands that sort of platform to come in and take over. Mario on Android is something even I would buy because that's where it works.

Until Nintendo can develop a game as deep and emotionally engaging as Mass Effect, I'll continue to find them irrelevant and you're not going to convince me otherwise.

I'm not trying to convince you that you're wrong because you simply have an opinion. There's never a wrong opinion. I just disagree with your opinion of Zelda and Metroid among many other of your opinions on Nintendo. Those two series have very good stories. Even still they're not the best stories Nintendo had but they're very engaging. Metroid was a fantastic experience. I'm surprised you're so callous towards the Prime series. They were very good.

I think Nintendo lost you because their stories aren't as engaging as perhaps other studios. I can't deny Nintendo lacks something in terms of stories similar to movies. If you're looking for that experience then it probably does fall short.

With that said, those games I mentioned are all very engaging stories. I recognize that Nintendo has a problem in terms of no voice acting with Zelda but in their defense they tried they with Metroid and people had conflicted opinions.

As I said I'm not trying to tell you you're wrong but there's more to this than your opinion on the subject. That's my entire purpose in this discussion is to simply discuss the other perspective of Nintendo. If you choose to understand or not that's on you. I'd hope you wouldn't be so narrow minded as to be so definitive in your opinion that it can't be fluid. I hope you're more open minded than that.

If you actually read my post, you would see that I didn't say anything about graphics. There is a certain par value that any modern video game should hit, but after that point it is irrelevant. I don't dislike Nintendo because they have cartoony, some would say poor, graphics, I dislike Nintendo because they don't tell stories and they don't have characters. Mario isn't a character, he has no personality. Then there's the biggest offender with Link, who has less personality than a bale of hay. Having some mutant turtle steal your girlfriend over and over and over again is not an involved and deep storytelling experience, it's stupidity. The characters don't grow, things don't change, and it lacks the emotional connection that is the defining characteristic of so many great stories and games. Outside of nostalgia, I don't understand how people can get excited for Nintendo games anymore. I don't know if catering to the lowest common denominator is necessarily their fault. I think they tried to makes games with characters and story withFire Emblem, but it didn't sell the way a Super Mario Takes a Crap or a Donkey Kong Krap Kountry would so they didn't invest much in it. Even the Paper Mario series has tried to give Mario a story, but those don't sell.

Which makes your argument about Nintendo being the one company that didn't sell out wrong, in fact you couldn't be more wrong. Nintendo is the one company that has sold out, they began to cater to casual gamers in order to increase their dwindling market share. I know fanboyism blinds some people, but at least be honest about what your chosen company is doing.

When Activision tried to make more money by setting up a roadmap to monthly subscription fees for COD, I stopped buying and playing the series. I've already said I'm waiting around a year to get a new system, and it's widely agreed by those who follow the industry that the first few weeks of sales are vitally important. I'm sorry I view games as an immersive and unique storytelling medium that should evolve and continue to grow in that aspect for the future. I probably hold games to too high of a standard, but I'm far from what's holding the industry back.

You make many fair points. I understand if you're disappointed in the stories and the rehashes. I'm a diehard Nintendo fan, so I will defend them.

First, your major issue seems to stem from Nintendo rehashing ideas. This is add legitimate problem. I tired of the Four Swords and the re-releases. I don't buy those games. I've played them. I don't care about updated graphics and stuff.

Now you and others here suggest that Nintendo isn't very story driven. I don't agree with this. While it's completely true that Nintendo is guilty of the re-release they are not guilty of poor stories.

The Wind Waker had terrific story. It developed on Ganondorf and seriously expanded his story and provided motivation behind everything he has done. While it's true that Link has a bland personalty that is by design. The intentions behind Link were to have him remain an anonymous character where they player themselves were him. Link is the least developed character and while you can argue that's a problem it's not in my opinion. Furthermore, Skyward Sword was brilliant in terms of story. The story was one of the best I've seen in a Zelda game or any other not withstanding some of the best stories in video games.

Outside of Zelda you have positively brilliant stories in the Metroid Prime series. I'm not sure if you ever played Eternal Darkness but that's one of the greatest games I've ever played. The characters are rich beyond comparison for the time.

Xenoblade Chronicles has fantastic story. It's really, really good. So good that it goes for 100+ on eBay.

Nintendo also has Sin and Punishment, Metroid: Other M, and Smash Bros. Smash Bros is a fantastic game and they tried to provide it a story. They tried to give it some story and that wasn't easy to pull off due to the epic scale of Nintendo and their franchises.

Nintendo has so many properties they don't even know what to do with them all and that can be a problem. They have neglected many good franchises to frustrate me with rehashes but I understand they do it because those sell.

Sadly the Eternal Darkness games have mostly failed them. It's bizarre but what do you want? They do what makes them money and they treat those loyal with some excellent games.

I know you dislike the rehashes of Mario. I can't expect much from those. They are supposed to be light hearted. They are supposed to just be fun. There isn't a lot of story. There isn't supposed to be. What do you expect? Mario waging war or something? Lol. That wouldn't work. They really do the best they can with the Mario franchise. My only complaint is they keep releasing the same game lol.

http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/06/12/gamers-without-internet-can-stick-with-xbox-360-says-microsoft

I'm on mobile. I can't reference info in the article easily but to paraphrase Microsoft is saying if you want an offline device they have one--the Xbox 360. Does anyone else think that's one of the dumbest statements ever?

Chances are I'll be in the US in November to take in a number of games. (Trying to figure out a way to fit in as many games as possible in 10 days, looks like I'll manage about 5)

I can't remember if this generation is still region locked, but I'd be SOOOOO tempted to pick up a PS4 while I'm state-side. If they stop me at customs (in the UK) I'll just tell them it's a "gift".

Yeah. Hopefully they let you. That is bogus that they charge more. I read on ign that the PS3 is region free.

Forgive me if I don't get excited about another iteration of the exact same game with the exact same characters, still lacking personality and any semblance of a deep story.  I'm not so easily amused.  And on top of that, Nintendo's production values are so low it makes a SyFy Original Movie look like Avatar.

 

Nintendo is not a video game company, it's a children's toy company on par with the Lego's and Hasbro's of the world.  I don't understand how actual gamers could consider them to be relevant anymore.

So I am easily amused? I happen to like those games. I think they've had plenty of original games. 

unfortunately what happens is it goes down for about 2-3 days. But it only happens once every few months or so

That does suck. Sorry to hear that. 

 

I'm just not liking the new Xbox. Way too many loops for me to jump. I feel like there's too much to this. It seems way too complicated--unnecessarily so. 

The online thing is actually a big deal for me because my internet goes down a lot lol

Yeah, but you only need to connect once a day. Does it go out for extended periods? You can still play offline games as long as it can connect once daily. 

I just read a nice article on IGN about the Xbox1. I have to say, unless Microsoft changes some of these things I will probably not choose this console. 

 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/06/microsoft-details-xbox-one-used-games-always-online

 

I won't reference the entire article; you can read it yourselves. I will simply point out highlights I found a tad disturbing: 

 

1.) Always Online: “With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."

 

Not a big deal, though I think that could affect some users because not everyone always has an Internet connection. I realize that most do have one and those who don't probably won't be playing Xbox, but there are those who this will affect. Sucks for them. 

 

2.) Used Games and Giving Games to Friends: "There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.”

 

They talk a lot about how Microsoft makes no money off of this. I really don't care about that. What disturbs me is that they only allow you to re-use a game once. That's absolutely ridiculous. I will tell you that I won't buy a lot of games if that's the case. I rented, borrowed, or bought games to try them out to see if they were worth buying. If not, I returned them. Now, perhaps they will innovate and allow demos & trials of games that will eliminate this concern, but regardless I'm not happy about this. 

 

Those were the two key-points that stood out the most to me personally. 

I haven't played Xbox since the first one really, does Xbox Live's Gold membership offer free games? Just curious because I've never heard any of my friends who have 360s mention it. PS Plus has been doing it since its inception a couple of years ago.

I'm not sure. I got the 360 a long time ago but I sold it because I frankly lost interest in it. I never owned the first Xbox. For the limited time I had the 360 it was great online. I loved the online play. The communication really made the games fun.

I switched to the PS3 and never turned back having it and the Wii and now Wii U.

Just an FYI, while I'm not thrilled about it being a requirement for multiplayer, that is the only thing it is a requirement for. You will still be able to play single-player games and use other internet/streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, etc without being a PS Plus member.

That said $45 a year is not bad when you consider all of the perks that come with paying for multiplayer. I'm currently a Plus member and they have all kinds of free games, from smaller indie titles to $60 big studio games, to play as long as you are a subscriber and they usually add new ones every month. I've downloaded the first Darksiders game, Deux Ex: Human Evolution, Infamous 2 and several others for free but have yet to check them out due to my current obsession with Borderlands 2, haha.

Another note as I saw it mentioned a page earlier or so, neither system is backwards compatible with their predecessors (never thought they would be but I would personally love it) but at least Sony is working on some cloud-based streaming via Gaikai (the cloud company they purchased last year) on PS4 for most of their major PS3 titles to be available at some point in 2014. Microsoft at this point has zero plans for a similar feature with their 360 library.

Yeah. The perks definitely make the price easier to swallow. Lol.